Zulfikar Ali Bhutto

Wednesday, May 13, 1964

This episode is from the WNYC archives. It may contain language which is no longer politically or socially appropriate.

From card catalog: Foreign Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto discusses his nation's foreign policy and position in world affairs. He talks about the ideological basis of his nation and presents and defends Pakistan's views on the India- China clash and the Kashmir problem. With Q & A.

Barrett McGurn introduces Bhutto. Bhutto apologizes for being so late.

The present situation (Kashmir?), clashes between India and Pakistan.

Direct elections in Pakistan? A state of crisis has prevented direct elections so far.

US aid to India? The Soviet Union sees Pakistan as an adversary because it is an ally of the US.

Pakistan's relation to China, influence on US? India's relations with US and USSR are based on expediency. The US claims it wants a footing in India, but Pakistan says it isn't possible. The US has interests and principles to adhere to. Negation of free enterprise to build a steam mill in India; the USSR will do it instead, but the US shouldn't go back on the decision. Pakistan desires to have normalized relations with all border countries.

How can Johnson and Rusk improve US relations with Pakistan? "I have nothing to lose but my job."

Camel driver? "Keeping him in shape for the presidential elections."

Audio courtesy of the NYC Municipal Archives WNYC Collection

WNYC archives id: 70397
Municipal archives id: T549

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