Episode 3: This Land Is My Land, That Land Is Your Land

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A bus carries individuals through the suburban village of Patchogue on Long Island, New York

Tom McCarthy, a retired NYPD detective and lifelong Long Island resident, has spent much of his adult life straddling two very different worlds. Each day he would leave the calm of his suburban community to patrol the notorious Queensbridge housing projects. This was in 1989, at the height of the crack epidemic, and what Tom saw in New York's public housing felt worlds away from his suburban Eden.

But now, the line that once separated Tom’s home from his work feels like it's dissipating. It's exemplified by leafy Suffolk County leading all of New York state in heroin overdose deaths last year.

Join WNYC Studios and The Nation, as we look into what's brought about this change in the suburbs. For many, the problems seem to stem not from within, but from the outside, coming over our southern border. Donald Trump has repeatedly bemoaned the crime and drugs that he says Mexican immigrants who are here illegally are bringing into the United States. He has said he'll deport this population and send them to "the back of the line."

But of all the controversial things the Republican nominee has said, sending immigrants here illegally to the back of the line is actually quite mainstream. In fact, it's been advocated by both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. The idea projects order, fairness and a sense of process. There's only one problem, according to Celinda Lake, a Democratic strategist who helped to workshop "the back of the line" phrase in the early-2000's: the line doesn't exist, leaving the country's immigration process a hopeless hall of mirrors for people trying to do the right thing and enter the country legally.

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Episode Contributors:

Arun Venugopal

Julianne Hing

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Music Playlist

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    Artist: Mobb Deep
    Album: The Infamous
  2. Base Camp

    Artist: Blue Dot Sessions
    Album: K2
  3. Stingray - Dangerous Thought

    Artist: Blue Dot Sessions
    Album: Stingray
  4. Black Ballots

    Artist: Blue Dot Sessions
    Album: Union Hall
  5. Balti

    Artist: Blue Dot Sessions
    Album: K2
  6. Patriotic songs of America

    Artist: New York Military Band and the American Quartet
  7. The Summit

    Artist: Blue Dot Sessions
    Album: K2
  8. United States of Anxiety Theme

    Artist: Nathan Halpern