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Ukraine Uprising

Wednesday, December 04, 2013

A massive pro-EU rally in Kiev on November 24th, 2013, attended by over 100 thousand people. (mac_ivan/flickr)

Buzzfeed foreign correspondent Max Seddon reports from Ukraine with the latest news on the massive protests that are putting the Ukrainian government on shaky ground.

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Comments [8]

Yuri from Clifton

A caller asked - why aren't the pro-russian eastern regions of Ukraine rioting for russia. Can't tell for everyone there, but I can tell for my two cousins there - because they have to work. They can't willy-nilly skip work, they'll be fired. In industrialized regions, which are the east of the country, I think they are the rule, not exception.

Look, all that the Russian government has said is that IF Ukraine signs this pact with EU - THEN Russia will have to bring it's customs regime with Ukraine in line with what it currently has with EU. That's all. This of course will cause hardship in many industries in Ukraine, such as steel. That's just economy, not politics, not history, not anything else. But then of course there are emotions - on all sides, but that's just emotions.

I heard it said that the dilemma for the Ukrainians is the fish vs. the fishing pole. The russians are offering the fish now, while the EU is offering the fishing pole, with the assumption that the Ukrainians will be able to catch all the fish they want. However, it seems to me that it's not at all clear that there _is_ fish in that pond.

Can anyone explain why the EU need Ukraine now? I understand why Ukrainians (think they) need the EU, but why does EU need Ukraine?

Dec. 04 2013 11:55 AM
Robert from NYC

Thank you Mariya from Queens for pointing out to us that this is about Ukraine not US or Russia. Ukraine does have it own long history and culture and it is time we all learned that it as other former Soviet states are individual and very old cultures. Ukraine is not the ping pong ball of Russia and the West!

Dec. 04 2013 11:27 AM
Geoff from West Orange, NJ

Brian, you used the phrase "center around" in conversation during this segment. To clarify, you don't center "around" something, you center "on" it or you revolve "around" it.

In linguistics these are called subcategorization restrictions, and English has lots of them: transitive/intransitive verb forms, subject/object requirements, singular/plural agreement, and in this case verb/preposition combinations.

This would be worth discussing with Patricia T. O'Connor on your next segment with her.

Dec. 04 2013 11:26 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

Russia is a gangster state run by a gangland boss, Putin.

Dec. 04 2013 11:22 AM
Mariya from Queens

Brian, thank you so much for this segment! i was waiting to hear your opinion on the situation in Ukraine. Its not about Russia or EU anymore. After Orange Revolution and Yanukovuch back in power - people lost their faith in government, in protests, in any improvement. Im proud. More than anything, im proud for our people who still have strength to protest. its a new Revolution - mostly young people, students, who at the time of Orange Revolution were kids. Its something new. I hope from all my heart that this president and current government will resign. I was in Maydan in 2004. My heart is in Maydan today. I pray for my family and friends. We are the great nation, world just dont know us yet.

Dec. 04 2013 11:21 AM
pliny from soho

some people have bad memories of the
soviet years when the russians took took took
also there is a religious split

Dec. 04 2013 11:20 AM
Robert from NYC

Have a good laugh at this. A Russian anchor on state TV tells Ukrainians why they don't want to join the corrupt, perverted western alliances... Imagine Russia calling US perverted!

Based on a Swedish TV show called Wee-wee TV, to teach young children about bodily functions. It's not XXX rated it's really runny/cute and ridiculous from the Russian point of view, and appears on BBC website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-25198264

Dec. 04 2013 11:17 AM
Robert from NYC

I mean really, seems the Cold War has just shifted down to the Chilly War. What's with US and Russia and its former Soviet territories?

Dec. 04 2013 11:11 AM

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