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Three Questions About Bloomberg

Thursday, December 12, 2013

Note: We are re-airing this special on January 1st, 2014 in the 10am hour. Starting at 11, live Inauguration Day coverage hosted by Brian can be found here and live on WNYC.

Three questions about Mike Bloomberg and your life in New York City as he prepares to step down from office.

Question One: Did Bloomberg Make You Healthier?

From smoking bans to calorie counts and gun violence, Bloomberg claims to have vastly improved the health of the average New Yorker. Marion Nestle, nutrition and health policy professor at NYU, and Richard Aborn of the Citizens Crime Commission discuss his health legacy.

Question Two: Did Bloomberg Leave You Behind?

Rents are high, inequality is even higher, but the overall economy of New York continues to grow. Andrew Beveridge of Social Explorer looks at the demographic, development, and neighborhood wealth shifts over the last twelve years; and Mark Winston Griffith of the Brooklyn Movement Center discusses income inequality and poverty.

Question Three: Did Bloomberg Secure Our Future?

Bloomberg's PlaNYC is an ambitious blueprint for a city that is greener, healthier, and more efficient for decades to come. Bloomberg leaves Bill de Blasio a balanced budget, but without civil service union contracts. And New York's tech sector continues to grow even as questions remain about whether it can drive the NYC economy of the future. Former Bloomberg spokesman Stu Loeser looks at what Bloomberg initiatives will continue to have a long-term impact on our city.


Data Set: 2000-2012 By the Numbers (via Andrew Beveridge)

See the spreadsheet in a new window here.

Guests:

Richard Aborn, Andrew Beveridge, Mark Winston Griffith, Stu Loeser and Marion Nestle
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Comments [96]

Amy from Manhattan

RJ, thanks for laying it out like that. Very well summed up.

Jan. 01 2014 11:34 AM
superf88

"People talk about the 'gorgeous decayed New York' -- that New York is gone. It's mike Bloomberg's New York now."

LEet's not tell Mike Bloomberg about Italy, OK?!

Jan. 01 2014 11:11 AM
Amy from Manhattan

I was out & came in late, but I caught the "focus on young black & Latino men" part & thought for a second, "Oh, so they *did* address stop-&-frisk!"

And I noticed that when Mayor Bloomberg talked about the making of Central Park, he mentioned its replacing farmland but not the razing of Seneca Village, a pre-Civil War community of free (but not equal) black people whose rights were violated & who lost their homes.

Jan. 01 2014 11:08 AM
Marsha Brown from Queens, NY

I haven't heard anyone touch on Mayor Bloomberg's amazing generosity. The New York Times, in what it admits is a conservative estimate, concluded that he contributed at least $650,000 per year of his own money, and only took $1.00 per year in savings. Compare that not only to other wealthy politicians, like many millionaires in Congress and the Senate, but to people like Governor Romney; but even to someone like Nancy Brinker, who received something like $680,000 (!) in salary as an executive of a NON-PROFIT, (Komen Foundation) despite being extremely wealthy herself.

The person who lambasted Bloomberg for not contributing of his own wealth to save St. Vincent's was way off the mark. Where were the contributions of other wealthy individuals, e.g. Jaime Dimon and his cohorts?!

No one is perfect; I disagree with some of Mayor Bloomberg's policies. However, I think overall he was a wonderful mayor, and helped the city thrive and grow. Most importantly, as he noted, he laid the groundwork for future expansion and growth.

Jan. 01 2014 11:05 AM
RJ from prospect hts

What was not mentioned, surprisingly, in either the safety or status questions is the deliberate alteration of data in precincts, in schools, in who knows what else? that give him these sorts of so-called positive data. Anyone remember Officer Schoolcraft? Cheating at the "best" high schools on standardized tests? The unenforceability of the community benefits agreement at Barclays Center? The increase in the costs that everyday New Yorkers must pay, such as increased water rates, parking tickets, CUNY fees; the weaning out of "troubled" students from some charter schools that were left unpunished? The closing of community childcare centers, making life miserable for low-income parents, who are then chastised for not spending more time with them (and Bloomberg's rejection of increased minimum wage, the costs of citibikes--starting, of course, in Manhattan--for employment time periods, not for poor and working-class people in their neighborhoods for their health. The increased fees at public recreation centers. St. Vincent's wasn't the only hospital that closed--a dozen or more have closed during his tenure, and the luxury condos have skyrocketed. The empty luxury housing that's owned purely for the convenience of corporations with traveling executives--which have been built with tax abatements,.The movement of working-class people out of neighborhoods they've lived in for decades. The denigration, dismissiveness, and insult spoken and shown toward poor people--saying and implying repeatedly that they need to be monitored and overseen, in food, housing, etc., not because he hasn't raised the minimum/living wage, or taxed his wealthy friends to increase child care slots (and ended the Advantage housing program), but because they are somehow responsible for the fact that the cheapest foods are fatty, salty, starchy, and sweet. All their faults. Did he focus on getting them dental care? No, HHC increased the cost of Rxs in the public hospitals. And this is only a partial list. Tale of 2 Cities could not be more demonstrable than New York City now. It looks and seems stunning to people with wealth, jobs, and tourists. That leaves a *lot* of us behind.

The increased costs of virtually everything for poor and working class people have caused untold damage to this city.

Jan. 01 2014 11:02 AM
John SMythe from Fled Brooklyn to NJ

Don't forget the impact of foreign/out-of-state homeowners on availability. Pied-a-terres standing empty most of the year while New Yorkers can't find apts. Property taxes in NYC are just too low. We fled to NJ. Happier than ever, despite 6x higher property taxes. At least my neighbors actually LIVE here.

Jan. 01 2014 10:41 AM
Anthony from transplanted NYer

Bloomberg and (by proxy) Kelly did exactly what they wanted. How is it the poverty-rate is down and the homelessness-rate is the highest it's been since the Depression? While this is statistically possible this statement demonstrates how the administration fuzzes-the-numbers to refract the light from the truth.

Jan. 01 2014 10:40 AM
Michelle from Jackson Heights

A caller mentioned the early years when recycling was halted - that was apparently to restructure the system to make it more effective and less wasteful. There was even talk of adding compost/scraps to the curnside pickups within five years. That would be an incredible step towards recycling and resuse as well.

On another note, a school principal friend of mine 'actually' liked Blomberg and Chancellor Wolcott. They helped her start a school for underprivileged kids and strongly supported her school for its few years in existence. Now, with the new administration, she has to start the routine of getting support from politicians all over again. (The latter just comes with the territory and has nothing to do with Bloomberg's legacy)

Jan. 01 2014 10:33 AM
ellen from manhattan

I live directly opposite the Stanley Isaacs Public Housing Projects and the residents there as well as thousands of other residents in the immediate vicinity of the Garbage Transfer Station live within 1-2 blocks of the 10-story garbage transfer plant now being built (in a Hurricane Zone A area of the East River) at 91st St and the East River. This from the mayor who put a farmer's market in front of the same public houses but whose prices are no lower than other produce stores and therefore not patronized hardly all by the Public Housing residents there.

Jan. 01 2014 10:26 AM
Jessie Henshaw from Way Uptown

The talk of how much better off New York is... is both social and financial, with continued vigorous economic growth. It is sadly in neglect of the most obvious defect in that.

Our rapid economic growth, gives us rapidly growing share of the consumption of the world's resources, AND responsibility for the consequences as ever growing impacts on the earth, acutely suffering from the inequities already. From a scientific measurement view, it really comes to the city being responsible for (among other things) producing 170,000 lbs of CO2 **per person rich and poor** (and growing), given our city's GDP of $1,350 billion...
http://synapse9.com/signals/2013/12/28/time-for-sustainable-cities-to-look-upstream/

Jan. 01 2014 10:14 AM
Rachel from Park Slope

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Brian, brian, brina

how many times are you going to have former Bloomberg spokesman Stu Loeser , the name says it all, on tot discuss his boss?

this is not why I donate to WNYC, we want to hear other points of view, not the paid hack hacking even more!

Jan. 01 2014 09:18 AM

The already-well-off are much better off.

The rest of the city, not so much.

Looking forward to DeBlasio!

Dec. 31 2013 05:54 PM

"We must make our choice. We may have democracy, or we may have wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both."

Louis Dembitz Brandeis ~

Dec. 14 2013 02:22 PM
Lloyd Z. from Manhattan

Bloomberg made us all more aware of things that negatively affect our health, and that's a really good thing. He also made it easier to engage in activities that promote good health and that is also a good thing.

I think his greatest achievement will be the success of his efforts to attract the technology sector to NYC, and the resulting diversification of the economy that lessened the importance of the financial sector. The new technology campus on Roosevelt Island will be an incredible asset once it's built. Low rates of crime, while never to be taken for granted, is something that New Yorkers now expect their mayor to maintain, and anyway, he supported the transformational efforts put into place by his predecessors.

The mayor's failures have to do with his lack of appreciation of the nuances of neighborhoods in that he believes in "big plans" that sometimes come at the expense of neighborhood fabric and character. The economic boom we've experienced has come at the expense of lots of people and places that make New York City more interesting than many other cities and that is what attracts people here in the first place. He also didn't use his independent political status to go after issues like street vendors, currently out of control, or the massive pension liabilities that are going to make Mayor DeBlasio's life very difficult.

Dec. 13 2013 12:00 PM
Jake from leaving NYC due to unemployment

It's clear that Brian and WNYC are completely out of touch with reality when it comes to Bloomberg.
Could it be that the Mayor has contributed a significant amount of money to WNYC, along with every other form of media in NYC to guarantee silence when it comes to criticizing him?
You'll never find out listening to WNYC- I tried to ask this on the air and the screener said there wasn't enough time. Right... So I asked her how much money Bloomberg donated to WNYC, and she said she didn't know. Right...
I witnessed Bloomberg's mean spirited incompetence first-hand as a NYC public school teacher, who watched in disbelief as we were ordered to pass over 80% of all students in our classes, or face disciplinary measures that resulted in many of us losing our jobs (including me).
As I looked at the students we were being forced to graduate by this idiot mayor (because he wanted to artificially raise graduation rates), I felt sick to my stomach. These kids could barely read, as reflected in only 25% of the entire NYC school population being able to pass the English Proficiency Test in the recent standardized exams.
Of course, they did fine on the watered down tests, previously; I wonder why that was?

Dec. 12 2013 05:01 PM
NYCitizen from beside my radio


Dear Mayor DeBlasio -

I only have one question for you:
What will YOU do to stop black on Jew and black on Asian violence??

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brooklyn-sucker-punch-assaults-investigated-knockout-game-trend-article-1.1525779

Don't let WNPR cover this up, Mr. mayor.

Dec. 12 2013 04:37 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

@CK, If the rich want to live here -- great, let's tax them. If you have ever read my previous posts - you would know this but don't expect me to wash their feet.

But your silly comments:

"NYC an affordable city? When was it ever so? Why would you expect it to be an affordable place to live now?"

Proves that you have not been here long enough to know what a subway token looks like. Please go back to the mid-west.

Dec. 12 2013 12:03 PM
John

"You're not special because you live here."

And you're not special because you were born here.

Dec. 12 2013 11:46 AM
Michael D. D. White from Brooklyn Heights

Did Bloomberg secure the city’s future? The answer to that question largely depends on whether it has been wise to put so many eggs in the singular Wall Street basket? Wise? Some would view that the financial sector is currently taking up a disproportionate amount of the economy. Is that sector really producing that much actual value? That’s doubtful, and thus a clue to the prospect of future shrinkage. Much of what happens on Wall Street is a Las Vegas style redistribution of resources to the house without production of value. How long people will continue to be amiably fleeced and what may happen with if and when future more stringent financial sector regulation is adopted poses great uncertainty for Wall Street’s future and thus the city’s.

Another question about whether the city will be robust, resilient, and ready to take on anything in the future has to do with how diversified the economy is in other ways, and Bloomberg has aided a shift to monopolistic and oligopolistic control by far fewer larger corporations, as was his development strategy favoring Atlantic Yards. That’s not good. It stymies the potential for organic multifaceted creative response to change in the future. It makes us dangerously more like Detroit when it catered to the supremacy of a few car companies.

Dec. 12 2013 11:37 AM

Why in the world does WNYC think an extended completely uncritical interview with a former long time Bloomberg flack is any kind of useful contribution to to a discussion of the state of New York City?

Unfortunately this kind of thing is absolutely typical for the Brian Lehrer show. Please either force him to serve the public as more than a neutral conduit for one-sided often paid opinion or preferably get rid of him and replace him with someone capable of critical thinking and interested in actual objectivity and analysis.

Dec. 12 2013 11:31 AM

Independent_Noach is moving to India.

Dec. 12 2013 11:25 AM
Seth

That guy was a HORRIBLE speaker. I guess that says a lot about the former mayor. ugh!

Dec. 12 2013 11:16 AM

Good work getting that 9/11 mention in there at the end, Loeser.

Dec. 12 2013 11:16 AM
Mike from Tribeca

trying to keep you honest (and failing) from beside my radio -- The "knockout game" is an conservative myth and not worth talking about. Besides, Brian ran a segment about it just the other day.

Dec. 12 2013 11:15 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ CK from Yorktown

Yes, please move back to the Midwest. You're not special because you live here. There is nobody who is more insufferable, pretentious and self conscious than a Midwesterner who thinks they "made it" in the big city. Trust me on this I lived in Chicago for a couple of years.

Dec. 12 2013 11:13 AM
Tony from Canarsie

Maria from Morningside Hts. -- excellent point.

Dec. 12 2013 11:12 AM
Maria from Morningside Hts.

Loeser just cited large increases for union contracts signed under the Bloomberg adm. Those were LEFTOVER raises from the Guilianni adm. In the same way, Bloomberg is leaving undone contracts for de Blasio to now negotiate.

Dec. 12 2013 11:07 AM
Mike from Tribeca

I'll say one thing in Bloomberg's favor: at least he didn't force WNYC to give Curtis Sliwa a show.

Dec. 12 2013 11:05 AM
antonio from baySide

The New York city unemployment rate is 8.9%. The national is 7.3%...

Dec. 12 2013 11:03 AM
Lamar from Harlem

Under Bloomberg, the rent guideline board approved rate increases for rent stabilized tenants by percentages from 4.5 to 7.5% which is an abomination because salaries did not rise equally. And that is even if people received raises at all. In sum, the middle class is on a fixed income and as rents rose, there is less money to spend on other things to make living in NYC affordable. Living in NYC for me has become a burden.

Dec. 12 2013 11:02 AM
oscar from ny

Dont believe the hype.. When we were little the thugs/hoodlums use to rob us and intimidates us while our parents work hard to give us what they could...later when we grew the company's back and forth rob us from our lives to our homes..now the disguise wants tribute for slaping us while were injured..it seems whatever times were at someone us always accusing us , robbing us and somehow they camouflage themselves in a quilt of peace, love, and showing us the mob the way to conduct from our health to our business..let's not kid ourselves into believing who helped themselves need your attention.. No they need your money and most , they need you to stay focus, remember they are your leaders..

Dec. 12 2013 11:01 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

All I know for certain is that under DeBlasio is that this city is now going to go down, but just by how much or how far or how soon I don't know. But this city now has no place to go but down.

Dec. 12 2013 11:00 AM
tom from astoria

Bottom line: He facilitated the development of New York as an affluent city which is unaffordable to most lower middle-class. Developers will celebrate his achievements.

Dec. 12 2013 10:59 AM
CK from Yorktown

@Sheldon: believe me, as soon as I can. Nice place to visit but wouldn't really want to live in NYC.

But Sheldon: what's your suggestion> send all the folks with money away? Build a bunch more shelters? That'll be a great way to vitalize the city. Sounds like you have a lot of bile and no ideas other than to tax the "rich". Good luck.

Dec. 12 2013 10:58 AM
Tony from Canarsie

Offhand, I'd say the mayor's politicizing of the Dept. of Education has been a catastrophe. Back too the drawing board, or in this case the blackboard.

Dec. 12 2013 10:58 AM
matt from Brooklyn

Water! Water! Water! The Third water tunnel. The major improvements to waster water treatment. Water access. These are huge. Without water there is no life.

Dec. 12 2013 10:58 AM

"Buggery"???!!!??

Now, THAT'S ass-inine!!

Dec. 12 2013 10:57 AM
antonio from baySide

Come on. The Mayor's narrative of the 60's 70's is laughable. Hopefully you guys will be honest about this...

Dec. 12 2013 10:55 AM

I tend to be favorably inclined toward most of Bloomberg's public health initiatives.

But what about the area of buggery?

The outgoing Mayor has been highly complicit in the whitewashing and effective promotion of this inordinately disease-spreading, gruesome, brutal (pseudo-)sex-act (anal penetration)* that now prevails throughout the land. A clearer, more egregious case of the agenda of a powerful special interest lobby being not only /permitted/ but actively /enabled/, /encouraged/ and /assisted/ to trump public health could hardly be found.* Thus, to call Michael Bloomberg "The Public Health Mayor", no matter how many accomplishments in the area he may be able to claim, is nothing short of Orwellian.

*NOTE: This is all acknowledged, appreciated and expounded upon by figures who are as emphatically PRO-homoerotic as Bill Weintraub, the longtime gay rights activist who founded the Frot movement:
http://man2manalliance.org
**REQUISITE DISCLAIMERS: 1.) Graphic, adult content. 2.) Quoting/citing != endorsement**
See also http://funfrotfacts.blogspot.com/ and
http://throbert.blogspot.com/ , the blogs of one Rob McGee, who says of himself,
"I'm a total homo with no apologies, but please don't call me gay, because it's a stupid word and an even stupider subculture."

/Be a lover, don't bugger!/

Dec. 12 2013 10:55 AM

NYC is absolutely FABULOUS!!

Unless, of course, you need a school or a hospital…

..or, an apartment for your family that isn't over $3000 a month.

Dec. 12 2013 10:54 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

@CK - Please move back to the mid-west, The City will be better for it.

Dec. 12 2013 10:51 AM
ivan obregon from nyc

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-chapman/new-york-children-go-hung_b_4423190.html

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/10/28/131028fa_fact_frazier

people are paying up to 50% of income on housing and working two jobs to then pay for....utilities, child support, transportation, food, etc.

he left behind a city better fit for....billionaires worth $22 bil.

Dec. 12 2013 10:50 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Bloomberg did build some affordable housing but it was a drop in the bucket.

He had no tangible public policy for affordable housing: both rentals and sales - for middle and working class families, while developers and people who could afford high-priced condos, got massive tax breaks and subsidies from the State.

Dec. 12 2013 10:48 AM
Tony Vera

Your constant reference to poverty measures fail to note that the index is generally viewed as anachronistic and, in the case of NYC totally inadequate as a guide to assess inequality.

Dec. 12 2013 10:46 AM
CK from Yorktown

"Affordable" housing? NYC an affordable city? When was it ever so? Why would you expect it to be an affordable place to live now? I'm from the mid-west. That's affordable. It's never going to be that way here. Don't like it? Move.

Dec. 12 2013 10:45 AM
ivan obregon from nyc

http://www.inquisitr.com/999522/bloomberg-the-impossible-cost-of-living-in-nyc-means-we-have-a-great-economy/

Send us your....billionaires.

Dec. 12 2013 10:42 AM
Caesar Romaine from Manhattan

By overturning the mandate of the people, who three times, immediately prior to Bloomberg, voted for term limits, Bloomberg pirated the democratic process. Anything else should be a footnote.

Bloomberg's billions, (earned for him by other people - his company worth ten times more after he left than when he ran it), were the result of data. Bloomberg's wealth comes from accumulating, aggregating and analyzine data. He is a master of manipulating data to show the results he wants to show. When there is data to illustrate his performance, you need to analyze the source of that data, who reported it, who collected it, who scrubbed it, who presented it.

You don't have to look too far to see how it can be manipulated. A restaurant gets a "C" grade from the health department in October, in November they proudly display their new grade of "A". They didn't change anything. Multiply this by 1,000 restaurants and read the press release: "Bloomberg has made us healthier". Apply this to smoking, tourism, crime, schools, drop out rates, etc.

Speaking of smoking. When Bloomberg ran in 2001, on the campaign trail he never once mentioned smoking. Once he became mayor the first thing he did was ban it in restaurants, open spaces, parks etc. The mayor is supposed to be a servant of the people. Servants ask before they act. Bloomberg never once did this. He used his wealth and every loophole in the law to get his way. He took advantage of "pilot projects" to make baby steps that once implemented he knew would not/could not be reversed.

One of his favorite sayings is "if you fling enough sh*t against the wall, something will stick". He is a believer in big changes with small steps. Start with a little, keep pushing, keep pushing, keep pushing and eventually you'll get your way.

He ends meetings with the line "ya got it?, good now don't go and f*ck it up" (he has since changed that to "don't screw it up"). We really ought to have asked him the same question in 2001.

Dec. 12 2013 10:42 AM

Life has been GREAT for Bill Rudin.

Everyone else can get bent.

Thanks, Mike!

Dec. 12 2013 10:41 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

OH, GOSH .... the city isn't "supporting" artists (with money taken from people slogging in the darkness at 5:00AM to their real jobs.)

THANK GOD !!!

Dec. 12 2013 10:41 AM
khadija Boyd from Brooklyn

Housing deplorable? Let it be so! We welcome all who think NY, including kiddos fleeing from desperate rural counties in the "red" states. They enrich our city.
ko

Dec. 12 2013 10:40 AM

I used to be Nora from New York, now I'm Nora from Bloomfield, 'nuff said.

PS: My favorite statistic from the chart is the change in income for "NATIVE PAC ISL" from $37,534 to $160,664. Nice.

Dec. 12 2013 10:40 AM

Is it any surprise Bloomie is an ENOUMOUS BS artist.

I LOVE the revisionist history!!

Nauseating.

Dec. 12 2013 10:40 AM

I used to be Nora from New York, now I'm Nora from Bloomfield, 'nuff said.

PS: My favorite statistic from the chart is the change in income for "NATIVE PAC ISL" from $37,534 to $160,664. Nice.

Dec. 12 2013 10:39 AM

NYC median rent: $3017mth ≠ "Living" Wage: pre tax (gross) $2400mth Bad math.

Dec. 12 2013 10:39 AM
Leigh from Queens

I like a lot of Bloomberg's public health initiatives - making the city smoke-free, improving bike lanes, etc. He's raised the quality of life for many. But I can't fathom how he can describe NYC as a place of freedom, equality, opportunity, etc. and just completely ignore the homelessness crisis he's created. How does he justify record numbers of homeless on his watch, esp. when he clearly is a progressive leader in many other areas? His overall success is deeply qualified by his record on homelessness.

Dec. 12 2013 10:38 AM
Ann Kjellberg from Greenwich Village

Bloomberg cynically "improved" high school graduation rates by relaxing standards and relabelling dropouts as administrative "discharges," sending uneducated children into the world as NYC high school grads. His ed policies have increased inequality by turning our schools into test-prep factories and depriving kids of the real learning that would give them a chance to advance in the world. He promoted bogus test results as proving the success of his reforms, even before the US congress, when actually the results showed no gains. He cared more about looking like a success than educating children and improving their life-chances.

Dec. 12 2013 10:36 AM
tom from astoria

Numbers can be misleading. When a development DESTROYS a neighborhood, forcing evictions of long secure TENENTS and SMALL BUSINESSES, and replaces whole stretches of a community with new high-rises, THEN CLAIMS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING by the numbers units, thats misleading. This is the major legacy of Mayor Bloomberg. Historical architecture is also lost.

Dec. 12 2013 10:34 AM
Jose from Queens

Looking at that map it seems like the only upward changes in income have occurred in areas getting gentrified. In areas where the middle class is dominant, like Queens and South Brooklyn, incomes are going down across the board.

Dec. 12 2013 10:33 AM
ivan obregon from nyc

Bloomberg's New Schools Failed To Improve Academic Standing Of ...
www.huffingtonpost.com/.../bloombergs-new-schools-ha_n_1695536.ht...‎
Jul 23, 2012 - The Daily News analyzed 2012 state reading test scores for 154 public elementary and middle schools that have opened under the Bloomberg ...

In Poll, New Yorkers Say Schools Aren't Better Under Bloomberg ...
www.nytimes.com/2011/09/07/education/07poll.html?pagewanted=all‎
Sep 6, 2011 - New Yorkers are broadly dissatisfied with the quality of their public schools, and most say the city's school system has stagnated or declined ...

After 12 Years of Bloomberg, Data Reigns in the Schools - WNYC
www.wnyc.org/story/303900-bloombergs-schools-legacy-use-data/‎
Jul 11, 2013 - It also meant schools with high test scores could get low marks if their ... The system immediately came under attack, at first from families and ... Ravitch has spent the past decade debunking Bloomberg's claims of school improvement. ... have questioned the quality of all those new high school diplomas.

Dec. 12 2013 10:33 AM
antonio from baySide

So these numbers are from folks who naturally grew up here, not folks who just moved to Williamsburg from elsewhere.

Dec. 12 2013 10:32 AM
Fred from Brooklyn

When Bloomberg crushed the Occupy movement he did a lot to perpetuate inequality nationwide.

Dec. 12 2013 10:31 AM

Are the median incomes adjusted for inflation or cost of living, etc?

Dec. 12 2013 10:31 AM

Abortion from Larchmont, out in droning, nonsensical, irrelevant, holy, self righteous, insignificant glory.

As usual.

Dec. 12 2013 10:29 AM
Nick from UWS

"By bucking the trend, we've been able to keep thousands of families out of poverty." Read: We've been able to keep thousands of poor families out of New York City.

Dec. 12 2013 10:28 AM

Housing is part of a person's health. Mayor Bloomberg decreased affordable housing for the poor and middle class. The number of homeless has risen to levels of the Great Depression. He stacked the rent regulations board with individuals who continued to gouge the renters. Compare their actions to those of Westchester County! The decrease in affordable housing in NYC was purposeful, as opposed to a fair real estate evaluation of the needs of the City as a whole. Shameful. And yes, he allowe St. Vincent's to close and now we have million dollare condos, and closed busineses and job losses in this neighborhood. Businesses closed because of no commercial rent control.

Dec. 12 2013 10:27 AM
khadija Boyd from Brooklyn

Beyond anything else, after bombastic wanna be "pres", 'ya know, G,[Mayor of NY], a breath of fresh air. I love bloomie! Can't be bought! Thank you, Mayor Bloomberg. Agreed w/you 80% of time. ko

Dec. 12 2013 10:24 AM

I LOVE the conservative "logic" regarding the health care debate and food policy:

When ACA goes into effect, these morons start whining that these deadbeat, fat slobs that don't eat well and how they're going to get "free" health care. Meanwhile, in the very next breath, they go on ad nauseam how any attempt to make folks aware of their personal health and eating habits is a COMMUNIST ATTEMPT AT A NANNY STATE!

Not unlike the gun debate:

The government is SCAREY, I NEED a gun to defend myself!! Military spending??? YES!!! MORE MILITARY SPENDING!!

NUTZ.

Dec. 12 2013 10:23 AM
Ed from Larchmont

St. Vincent de Paul was the Mother Teresa of his day.

Dec. 12 2013 10:23 AM
Nick from UWS

St. Vincent's is a perfect example of Bloomberg's selling out of fine old NY institutions to so-called "developers". He has been ruinous to the NY. Ruinous.

Dec. 12 2013 10:23 AM
e from bk

As a working artist, Bloomberg has made me unhealthy.

I became incredibly depressed and had to go on medication when I started avoiding going outside because I hated all the yuppies and hipsters . He may have kept a lid on crime, but he put all the poor people on the street .

Dec. 12 2013 10:22 AM
ellen from Manhattan

There were 3 shootings in the first few years after I moved across the street from some public houses on the upper East Side. The police instituted something they call, I think, "top to bottoms" in which police patrol up and down the floors throughout the day, until quite early in the AM. The shootings stopped, the loud parties stopped, even the late-night teen-age groups on the street outside the houses stopped.

Dec. 12 2013 10:21 AM
RBC from NYC

I'm happy that the guest mentioned the drop in recidivism. One of the reasons for the dramatic drop in overall crime is the drop of recidivism. The State of New York is one of the few states where the number of prison and jail beds are rapidly declining. We are actually closing incarceration facilities. So crime is definitely going down.

Dec. 12 2013 10:21 AM
Lewis Wendell from Harlem

1. Yes. The Mayor helped ban trans fats from restaurants and smoking from public places (not to mention the education program to discourage the consumption of sugary drinks)which have made a significant improvement in our quality of life.
2. No. In fact my family was able to buy a middle-income apartment in Harlem which was a major event in our lives which has helped us establish ourselves in the City. We have also been very impressed with the public school system which has allowed us a valuable education for our kids in a diverse and stimulating environment.
3. The Mayor is handing over a City that is safer and better in many ways (schools, parks and overall quality of life). It is troubling that homelessness and income inequality have increased markedly. Those are societal problems that are not totally within the control of the Mayor though it would have been good to see more effort on those fronts.

Dec. 12 2013 10:20 AM
Neil from Manhattan

Bloomberg's initiatives on bike lanes and bike share programs makes me safer as a regular biker. His stop and frisk makes me feel far less safe and very angry as a black male and especially since I am a veteran.

Dec. 12 2013 10:20 AM
togusa from Harlem

I moved to nyc in 2002. I feel it necessary to mention Bloomeberg's development of 311 and other improvements to the city's data infrastructure.

Dec. 12 2013 10:20 AM
Jennifer from NYC

I don't think setting up tables and chairs in the middle of huge avenues of traffic does much for NYers' collective respiratory systems.

Dec. 12 2013 10:19 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

C-train projected to be out for 3 years in Brooklyn - Bloomberg didn't give a ....

Blackout in Queens... Bloomberg didn't give a ......

Sandy killed people in Staten Island, Brooklyn, and Queens, Bloomberg didn't give a....

People voted in a two term limit for mayors...Bloomberg didn't give a ....

His infamous quote to Quinn on term limits "people forget about these things anyway" - they did not.

Dec. 12 2013 10:19 AM
Lauren from Brooklyn

First of all -- bike lanes! I definitely got healthier because I started biking to work, and I did that I think in part because of all the new bike lanes.

Second -- I wish Brian would read up on the lead hypothesis of crime reduction -- long article by Kevin Drum in Mother Jones. I found it very, very persuasive that the majority of the drop in crime we have seen over the last 25 years can be attributed to unleaded gasoline and the ban on lead paint. Do please take a look so you can effectively challenge people who attribute the drop in crime to police practices. not that those don't matter, but I don't think they matter nearly as much as many believe.

Thanks

Dec. 12 2013 10:19 AM
vanessa from bk

Lead, lead, lead!!! Why are those remarkable studies never mentioned?

Dec. 12 2013 10:17 AM
Nick from UWS

Did you ever hear a bigger bunch of BS than Mike's "farewell" speech? Support for the arts, eh Mike? Is that why you sent a goon squad out to find and put Banksy in irons? Is that the support for the arts you mean? Is that why you have sold out some of our most beautiful neighborhoods to be destroyed by venal developers putting up soul-destroying hideous overpriced crap in a relentless drive to turn NY into Houston and destroy the middle class? Is that the aesthetic improvements and diversity you mean?

Dec. 12 2013 10:13 AM
Ed from Larchmont

If you included abortion, the numbers would be quite different.

Dec. 12 2013 10:13 AM
Bonn from East Village

First, yes, the calorie count affects what I order. And thanks to the smoking ban, I can be in a bar and/or restaurant without coughing. Also, I happened to hear Mayor B. speak in a park some years ago about the Women's Health Initiative. People were handing out literature about the program. At the time, I didn't have health insurance. The pamphlets let me know that I could get a free mammogram, colonoscopy and pelvic exam, and that my local hospital was part of it. I told my friends who also didn't have insurance, and we all got our check-ups, thanks to this program. Don't know if it's still around.

Dec. 12 2013 10:13 AM
Carlos from Queens

Economic justice and poverty go hand in hand. I myself looked for healthcare for a long time, and although I had been working in this city for 15 years I could not qualify for subsidized healthcare and I couldn't afford to buy it on my own. As a consequence I had undiagnosed cancer for almost a year. By the time I found out the treatment was so aggressive it devastated my body.

So while the long-term solutions to healthcare need to be national, there are many things a municipal government can do to take batter care of its people, like making housing more affordable, improving the capacity of the city's hospitals, and so on.

Dec. 12 2013 10:11 AM
ivan obregon from nyc

bloomberg's most important lasting negative legacy is.....invisibly shut away in shelters or out of nyc altogether due to the exorbitant cost of "living". Many of the rest of the stats all reflect this willful policy or....not.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matthew-chapman/new-york-children-go-hung_b_4423190.html

Dec. 12 2013 10:08 AM
Robert from NYC

We get it Brian you love Michael Bloomberg and he's your savior with regard to NYC and he did nothing wrong. Me, however, I give him his due in the few "goods" he's done but he did nothing really big or important to bring some of the poorer population out of the hole, as it were. I'm glad he's going and I'm going to WQXR right now to avoid this sugary Bloomberg fest.

Dec. 12 2013 10:08 AM
carol from nyc

I think I'm definitely healthier. I was able to work in restaurants for the first time when I came to NY after the smoking ban. It changed my life, both in that I was able to get a job quickly, and in that I didn't have to spend the night with burning eyes and lungs, and cough all the time.
But then, yes, I feel like I am being priced out of the city. I'm not poor, but I can't afford this city's rent! It's crazy. If you are a couple, sharing a place, you're paying over 2K a month, or likely soon will be. That means rent control is over for you, and your rent goes up every year, while your income doesn't. Almost everyone I know is looking for a new city to live in.

Dec. 12 2013 10:06 AM
kim from brooklyn

Ug, Brian. Did you really just make an Obama selfie joke? Perhaps you haven't yet seen the comments by the photographer who took the pick. Please read, rather than add to the sexist, trivializing commentary: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2013/12/11/the-truth-behind-the-obama-schmidt-selfie-surfaces/

Dec. 12 2013 10:06 AM
trying to keep you honest (and failing) from beside my radio

why doesn't WNYC report on the RACIST "knockout" attacks of African-American kids on Jews ??? why is WNYC so racist as to ignore this??

how will deBlasio deal with racist attacks? will he ignore them, like Dinkins and WNYC??

Dec. 12 2013 10:01 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

LOL, just as I predicted, the little "ankle-biting Lefties here" chime in right on cue.

(Ah, utopian "fairness"...forget the $39 billion in direct spending and JOBS.)

Who needs central casting with dependable drones like these?

Dec. 12 2013 09:30 AM

The system that allows some to pile up ever larger stacks of dough at the expense of middle and lower tier earners is clearly broken and cannot last for much longer. Mr. Bloomberg's rhetoric seems to put him squarely in the 'trickle down theory' segment - but what else could we expect from a billionaire? Fortunately for him, income distribution is not a product of municipal policy - affected by it? Sure. but not a major driver (imo).

The recession that we are inducing by this bad distribution of income will not be short and will not easily go away.

Dec. 12 2013 09:10 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ Martin Chuzzletwit from Manhattan

You'd better believe tourism is up! Nobody left but tourists soon... if you're working class or even a professional you're basically a tourist even if your visit lasts a decade or more because there is no profession that can possibly keep up with the cost of living increases in NYC. You need tax free unearned income to keep a home in this city! NYU brats everywhere south of 14th street and the East Village is full of "wine bars". Brooklyn is the "mommy blogger" capital of the world. It won't be long now for my beloved Queens... Astoria is squarely in their sights. Meanwhile the poor rot in the street and the creative class is in full flight. Welcome to Yuppytown, USA.

So what did Bloomberg do, OH RIGHT, he made the city safer! Somehow he also made not only the city but also the COUNTRY and even the WORLD safer! Yeah, it's true, violent crime is the lowest its been in 40 years in the United States all thanks to Uncle Mike "Fascism Works" Bloomberg. It's also the lowest its been in 20 years in the UK thanks to Bloomberg! Don't like my logic? You must be a terrorist and in need of some NYPD monitoring, but don't worry about it, the "7th biggest army" in the world will protect your rights, citizen, because that's what armies do, right?

Dec. 12 2013 08:55 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ Martin Chuzzletwit from Manhattan

You'd better believe tourism is up! Nobody left but tourists soon... if you're working class or even a professional you're basically a tourist even if your visit lasts a decade or more because there is no profession that can possibly keep up with the cost of living increases in NYC. You need tax free unearned income to keep a home in this city! NYU brats everywhere south of 14th street and the East Village is full of "wine bars". Brooklyn is the "mommy blogger" capital of the world. It won't be long now for my beloved Queens... Astoria is squarely in their sights. Meanwhile the poor rot in the street and the creative class is in full flight. Welcome to Yuppytown, USA.

So what did Bloomberg do, OH RIGHT, he made the city safer! Somehow he also made not only the city but also the COUNTRY and even the WORLD safer! Yeah, it's true, violent crime is the lowest its been in 40 years in the United States all thanks to Uncle Mike "Fascism Works" Bloomberg. It's also the lowest its been in 20 years in the UK thanks to Bloomberg! Don't like my logic? You must be a terrorist and in need of some NYPD monitoring, but don't worry about it, the "7th biggest army" in the world will protect your rights, citizen.

Dec. 12 2013 08:54 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

“Record year tourists in New York City”

“Official predictions show that a record 54.3 million visitors will have arrived in New York City by the end of 2013. Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced Tuesday that the number of annual tourists has jumped by 20 million since he took office in 2002. By year's end, visitors to the city will have generated nearly $59 billion in overall economic impact and $39 billion in direct spending.”

LOL, the attacks on Bloomberg … by the ankle-biting Lefties here who just elected the muddled, incompetent, amiable schlemiel to succeed him … reveal how far the collective insanity of “progressive” mass urban suicide has gone.

(http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9355769)

Dec. 12 2013 06:05 AM
Brenna from Jackson Heights, NY

I moved to NYC in 2002, so Michael Bloomberg has been my only mayor. I have now been priced out of the city and am moving this spring. I am 52, and after I left my rent-subsidized apartment (where the rent increased over 30% in 9 years) to take a unit in a small four-family dwelling, work/commute issues led me to look for another apartment. I have been renting a room in other's apartments because I was unable to find someone to rent to me based on my limited income. (I work as a musician.) I cannot wait for my name to come up on the waiting lists for buildings where I have applications, so I must leave.

Dec. 11 2013 11:29 AM

only time will tell....

Dec. 10 2013 11:23 PM
Lisa Dokken from New York

Bloomberg has addressed number of issues regarding our health. Cleaner heating fuel, more parks, less car emissions, cleaner waters and a sustainable development plan.

I have been back in the city after about 18 years of being away. I think the city is the best it has ever been. I have two daughters in the city and feel comfortable with them traveling alone on the subway in a way I wouldn't have just a few years ago. So yes, we feel so much more secure then we used to.

I recognize that there continues to be an affordable housing issue in the city and obviously some serious issues regarding homeless, but raising already high taxes and not addressing infrastructure issues will just send us back to the bad old days.

Dec. 10 2013 05:48 PM

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