Governor's Debate: Teachout vs. Astorino

Thursday, September 04, 2014

Governor Andrew Cuomo and Democratic challenger Zephyr Teachout (saebaryo and Digital Media/Flickr)

With Gov. Cuomo apparently declining to debate his challengers this election season, Zephyr Teachout, a challenger in next week’s Democratic primary, and his November ballot opponent Republican Rob Astorino, face each other and go head-to-head on the issues, from economic policy to fracking to where they may agree on issues such as Common Core.

Comments [83]

la from Brooklyn

*could you

Sep. 05 2014 12:31 PM
La from Brooklyn

What!? How you could not include a serious candidate like Howie Hawkins?

Sep. 05 2014 12:29 PM
bobk from si, ny

i am not sure why the teachhouse chick was on there, she is a longshot, outsider, we have a progressive, that will definitely be on in Nov, Howie...why was he not included. as far as that goes, the libritarian will definately be on also. lets hear from the folks that are in on Nov, not some challenger that will not likely even be on the ballot.

Sep. 05 2014 09:07 AM

Why wasn't Mike McDermott, the Libertarian Candidate for Governor, invited?

Sep. 05 2014 08:57 AM
Anton Konev from Albany, New York

Howie Hawkins takes up space in a serious debate. He is not smart enough to run a strong media campaign to push his race....yet we are to believe he can run this state or solve its complex problems. Be real. We cant go from corrupt governor to someone who grows his own weed!

Sep. 04 2014 11:30 PM
Peter Gustafson

Would love to also hear from Howie Hawkins in these debates!

Sep. 04 2014 08:37 PM
Ornaw from NY

Another amazing Teachout Moment, a knowledgable legal mind schooling the public on how they have been getting fleeced on the state level by the same people who oversaw the criminal enterprise that led to the financial crisis. Also Tim Wu today on Sam Seder show was informative and insightful on how NY can recover from recent decades of swindling by the 1%.

TOO BAD Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes don't have what it takes to smell the national implications of this race.


Sep. 04 2014 08:30 PM
Matthew Kouba from Syracuse

How dare they claim opposition to corruption when the only candidate not taking corporate money is held out of the debates. Teachout, Astorino and Brian Lehrer all "violated ethical commitment to the people of New York State" when they took it upon themselves to decided what candidates New Yorkers are allowed to know about; when they sold themselves out. Howie Hawkins is the candidate that has 2/3 of everyone who knows his name ready to vote for him, can any other candidate claim that? The fact that they want no-one to know that he exists, and have co-opted nearly every piece of his platform, shows how afraid they are he will win. Anyone that the two-party coalition fights this hard to defeat, you know has to be carrying some serious weight for a permanent and real departure from politics as usual. Vote Green for a party of the 99%! For the party that put $15/hr on the table! For the party that made this election matter - Vote Howie Hawkins/Brian Jones!

Sep. 04 2014 06:56 PM

Thanks Brian & staff for a good debate. Other pairings would be nice, but since Tsar Cuomo won't debate Tuesday's primary may ride on this debate - and peoples' disgust at the paper mountain from the NYS Democratic Party pushing Cuomo filling our mailboxes.

Sep. 04 2014 05:26 PM
Peter from Albany

Why would Brian Lehrer and WNYC conduct a pre-primary debate without Howie Hawkins or the Libertarian candidate? In fact, Astorino faces no primary challenge so it cannot be billed as a primary debate. This is media gatekeeping at its worst. If Astorino and Teachout are invited to a debate, it is worth inviting someone with 7% in the polls and who received 60,000 votes last election cycle. I don't recall Teachout ever having received any votes for governor, or Astorino? This is a farce and I suggest we boycott WNYC programs until such time as they decide to have a real debate.

Sep. 04 2014 05:22 PM

The third-party candidates, like the Green Party's Howie Hawkins, have an uphill climb when it comes to getting airtime... and it's a vicious circle, since to become a "serious candidate" one needs media exposure, and media outlets won't give you any unless you're already a "serious candidate." So we need to keep up the pressure to encourage folks like Brian Lehrer to open up the gates wider.

Sep. 04 2014 04:36 PM

I can't believe anyone would ever take the Republican front group known as "The Green Party" seriously after 2000.

Sep. 04 2014 03:30 PM
artie from Buffalo

So many people here are declaring outrage that other potential candidates weren't included in this debate.

That's just so silly. This was a scheduled debate between Astorino and Teachout, with a limited timeframe.

If others want to debate Astorino, Teachout, or anyone else, all they need to do is declare so publicly. If they get their debate, fine. If they don't, they can call out Astorino and/or Teachout for declaring Cuomo a coward for avoiding this debate.

As they both said in this debate, they look forward to future debates.

I haven't seen any evidence of other potential candidates being excluded from any debates, nor of those people even asking to be included in these forums.

Some people just search for an excuse for outrage. Most politicians prey on that.

If you listened to this "debate", you would know that it wasn't a debate at all, but a joint Cuomo-bashing party. For me, that's a good start.

Sep. 04 2014 03:10 PM
Josh from Saugerties

Any debate that doesn't include Howie Hawkins is a joke. Why ignore a serious candidate? Hawkins is on the ballot. We deserve to hear what he has to offer.

Sep. 04 2014 02:58 PM
Donald J. Sepanek

Bill Gates says Common Core is a good thing, and Teachout's hairdresser says it's a bad thing - so Teachout believes the hairdresser. Hmmmm....I'll have to ask my barber about this.

Sep. 04 2014 02:53 PM
Charlie from Upstate New York

Why did the commentator not bring up Astorino's possible indictments on election fixing/fraud and other irregularities which occurred while he was in office?

Sep. 04 2014 01:17 PM
Gautam from Queens

We ought to include more voices in the debate to highlight the actual differences between candidates.

I support Howie Hawkins and feel NY is being done a disservice every time mainstream outlets overlook the actual progressive candidate.

Sep. 04 2014 12:56 PM
Josh B from Syracuse

Why the freeze out of Howie Hawkins and Michael McDermott in these debates? Are the two parties genuinely threatened by the inclusion of these two candidates? Mr. Hawkins in particular is polling well for a third party candidate and New Yorkers deserve to hear what Hawkins and McDermott have to offer.

Sep. 04 2014 12:46 PM
sam caquias

Why can't we have a truly open fully transparent debate on the issues that include 'ALL" Party Candidates with a valid Party line on the Ballot like the Green Party's Howie Hawkins..This is why things in New York will never get better and many are leaving the state due to nonsense like this. What is the Tea parties Astorino and the Jane come lately afraid of....Maybe common sense solutions to our problems her in NY. For me I'm tired of both Major parties, and the games they both play with the Working class of this state...VOTE GREEN PARTY line for some real Progressive Working Class Changes in this state.

Sep. 04 2014 12:44 PM
Jonathan Segol from Saratoga Springs

Where is Howie Hawkins? He would be a knowledgeable and thoughtful any of these debates. And unlike Teachout, he's going to be on the ballot in November.

Sep. 04 2014 12:34 PM
Ben Kuebrich from Syracuse, NY

Howie Hawkins is the progressive candidate in this race and is polling at 7%. He needs to be invited to debate.

Sep. 04 2014 12:25 PM

Rob Astorino is a moderate Republican who can stimulate the economy and the job market. Writing as a business professor, I see my students trapped in low-paying jobs that, when taxes were lower and New York's economy less regulated, went to high school dropouts. Even with a four-year college degree, my students cannot find good jobs in New York. The reason is the state's failure to adopt competitive economic policies. Mr. Astorino can improve things

Zephyr Teachout, with a tenured academic job, feels little empathy for young, inner city New Yorkers. This is the traditional myopia of New York's Democratic Party: They claim to be for the poor, but they screw the poor. Teachout and de Blasio, with their dumb minimum wage idea, will freeze inner city youth out of the job market, entrenching dependency and hopelessness. Their ideas are ugly.

Andrew Cuomo was known to be corrupt and inept when he ran in '10. He had mismanaged HUD in the early 1990s, and he had mandated the subprime lending that led to the financial meltdown of 2008. His economic policies as governor have been no less inept and corrupt. It is amusing that the New York Times, that predicted the failure of the subprime policy in the late 1990s, when Clinton actually enforced it, feigns surprise at Cuomo's failings.

Cuomo's crony capitalism approach contrasts with both Teachout's tax-and-spend, elitist approach and Astorino's market-based approach. Teachout believes that she understands the economy so well that she and her academic friends can instruct businesses about what they need to do. Her policies will result in crony capitalism that is scarcely different from Cuomo's. Her intentions are good, but she is an economic and technological illiterate.

Astorino advocates policies that have repeatedly worked to stimulate economies and create real jobs. His enlightened approach to revising common core and reducing waste in government will start to turn things around.

Sep. 04 2014 12:23 PM
KMF from Saratoga Springs NY

Nearly 60,000 New Yorkers voted for Howie Hawkins in 2010. Why was he not invited to this debate? By excluding a well-liked and serious candidate such as Hawkins does a disservice to the voters of NY. Brian Lehrer is promoting this ant-democracy by leaving Howie out of the debate. I am seriously dissapointed in Teachout and Astorino as well as this debate is pointless without candidate Hawkins. New Yorkers deserve to hear from ALL legitimate candidates!!!!!

Sep. 04 2014 12:10 PM
Joshua Gathany from Endicott, NY

"Why hold a debate between two people who aren't going to oppose each other in an election?" Exactly: why are Hawkins and McDermott not in this debate? Teachout replacing Cuomo in a debate only makes sense if there are no other alternatives in minor parties, but there are! A true Left alternative candidate like Howie Hawkins is a much more rational choice for Astorino to debate since they will oppose each other in the election and, moreover, Hawkins is doing better than any previous Green Party Cadidate in the polls.

Sep. 04 2014 12:10 PM
SES ZOO from N. Law. ,NNY

Debates are supposed to give the public an insite into what the candidates think and where they stand on issues ,But it can't be a real debate when you don't have all the candidates , Where was Howie Hawkins and why wasn't he invited ? Are the other three or media afraid of him , if these debates are supposed to be taken seriously than invite ALL the candidates so we can make an informed decision . A farce this was .

Sep. 04 2014 12:04 PM

Why wasn't Howie Hawkins from the Green Party allowed to join in? He's on the ballot for election day, and he would have been the only incorruptible one of the three, since the Green Party doesn't take corporate donations, you can count on his honesty. He will fight for a $15 minimum wage like in Seattle which means taxpayers won't have to pay for NY Walmart (and other) employees' public assistance for being paid poverty wages. He will also make sure public schools aren't overcrowded like in NYC, will try to opt out of the Common Core garbage, and make NY's educational system like Finland's educational system. If you don't fix the problems at a local level like voting in Howie Hawkins, then you can't expect the federal government and the rest of the country to get any better.

Sep. 04 2014 12:03 PM
Dani Liebling

It is shocking that Teachout and Astorino would agree to a debate that excludes all other legitimate candidates. Lehrer (or Techout or Astorino) can't even use the excuse that this is a "primary debate" because clearly it is not. Howie Hawkins of the Green Party came in 3rd out of 7 candidates for governor in 2010 and yet he gets treated like he does not exist!! I am not surprised at Astorino's clear lack of respect for democracy, but Teachout continues to claim she is a Democrat with integrity. Well, she has just proven to me that she it willing to leave her supposed integrity at the door if it means she can step over others to get ahead. She also refuses to take a stand on the recent actions of the Israeli's in Gaza. Just like a typical politician, she won't stand up for justice unless it is convenient to her chances of winning. - If you want REAL integrity and if you are interested in real Democracy, VOTE FOR HOWIE HAWKINS AND BRIAN JONES of the Green Party in the general election on November 4th!

Sep. 04 2014 12:03 PM
Matt from Brooklyn

I liked the debate. Teachout has a legit chance of unseating Cuomo. She isn't a fringe candidate like the Green Party's Hawkins. So it's fair to focus on these two candidates.

Do you remember Bloomberg's third-term re-election? The vote was much closer than expected and the democratic challenger didn't even make a real effort. Everyone just gave up... ho hum. Had the dems really focused, we would have seen an upset then.

We have a chance on Sept 9 to replace a corporate politician who will open the state further to moneyed interests and fracking in his second term. Get out an vote for a democrat, not a corporate shill.

Sep. 04 2014 12:00 PM
Judd Maltin from Hillsdale, NY

Where's Howie Hawkins? He's got more relevant experience than either of these two big party candidates.

Sep. 04 2014 11:58 AM
Colin Young from Delhi, NY

Why hold a debate between two people who aren't going to oppse each other in an election? If you are doing this as an excercise in democracy because Cuomo thinks debating is beneath him, great, but include some of the other voices in the general election, like Green Party candidate Howie Hawkins.

Sep. 04 2014 11:56 AM
Michael McDermott from Huntington, NY

I am the Libertarian Candidate for Governor of New York State. I have publicly challenged Astorino to debate me but he apparently is afraid because he just ignores me. So, Mr. Astorino, I challenge you to a debate with me and other persons who have attained ballot access. Your previous comments to only debate Cuomo and now your change to "debate" Zephyr Teachout is a debacle.

Continue to ignore us at your own election peril. We have a loud voice and are very educated on the many issues concerning New York State!

You have little chance to beat Cuomo so stand up and take a chance to let voters have real choices, not just the republican or democrat choice.

It's your only chance to gain more respect amongst those voters who are tired of only having the choice of voting between the lesser of two evils.

You have nothing to lose by really letting voters know how you will do in an honest and lively debate. Or do you?

Call me and let's do lunch!

Michael McDermott
Cell: 631-358-1931

Sep. 04 2014 11:56 AM
Paul from Rochester, NY

Strange choice of debate... If you're going to hold an interparty debate, invite everyone who will be on the ballot in the fall. Get Hawkins, McMillan, McDermott, Cohn, and Carey on here and have a real debate — "minor parties" can get good ideas out there and call out the "major" candidates on the facts of their records.

Sep. 04 2014 11:43 AM
joe from Brooklyn

Nice show but I wish your show had included third party candidates like Howie Hawkins of the Green Party.

Sep. 04 2014 11:42 AM
Paul from Rochester, NY

Strange choice of debate... If you're going to hold an interparty debate, invite everyone who will be on the ballot in the fall. Get Hawkins, McMillan, McDermott, Cohn, and Carey on here and have a real debate — "minor parties" can get good ideas out there and call out the "major" candidates on the facts of their records.

Sep. 04 2014 11:42 AM

…a BA in Communications???


Sep. 04 2014 11:40 AM

Zephyr Teachout, you had me at renewable energy, but I love that you play soccer. Seriously, I'm going to look further into your policies because I liked what I heard today.

Sep. 04 2014 11:38 AM

blah, blah…blah.

Sep. 04 2014 11:37 AM
Nick Lento from NJ

Zephyr Teachout will be the next governor of New York, the only question is will it be a miraculous upset this year...or the result of a grassroots movement within the Democratic party to take back the party from the utterly corrupt establishments that now have usurped our party...a movement which will put Teachout on the top of the ballot in 2018.

Zephyr Teachout reflects the sane and smart views of the vast majority of New York state citizens. I pray that if she doesn't win this primary, she stays totally engaged in the run for 2018.

The time is ripe for removing establishmentarian hacks like Cuomo and his de facto crony Chris Christie from office. Cuomo is a fraudulent progressive..killing the anti-corruption commission when they started looking at HIM is dispositive...the man is a HYPOCRITE!!!

Simply not being convictable of a crime is wayyyyyy to low a standard for evaluating corruption. Sadly we have come to a point where corruption has been mostly legalized bribery....that alone is a good reason to elect Zephyr Teachout!

I also hope to see Teachout running in future with a FULL SLATE of alternative progressive Democrats in the next Democratic primary.

Sep. 04 2014 11:37 AM
Steve Ruzbacki

Without Howie Hawkins, the debate should be boycotted and recognized as the empty theater it would be.

Sep. 04 2014 11:36 AM

Remember that regardless of what happens to Teachout in the primary, you can still vote for a progressive candidate in the general election. Vote for the Green Party and Hawkins/Jones in November. Also, since Brian Lehrer and Andrew Cuomo clearly want to limit the information that gets out to people about their choices at the ballot box, "be the media" and tell your friends, family and colleagues about Hawkins/Jones!

Sep. 04 2014 11:35 AM

Rob "The Weenie" Astorino


Sep. 04 2014 11:34 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Renewable energy can also provide jobs.

Sep. 04 2014 11:34 AM

Why wasn't the Libertarian Candidate for Governor invited?

Sep. 04 2014 11:34 AM

Why wasn't the Libertarian Candidate for Governor invited?

Sep. 04 2014 11:26 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

It's sad to hear both shamelessly pandering to the teacher's union... spouting the same old nonsense. Anyone ever read about the Kansas City Miracle? ...

Yeah, throwing $ at "schools" (read teacher's union) doesn't work. Contrast that with Tangelo Park...

2 Simple things:

*Guarantee a free college education to HS grads
*Provide free daycare so the children of working parents stay out of trouble.

Instant success. A neighborhood completely transformed, 100% graduation rate, quadruple home values, 50% reduction in crime.

These two dopes are both big government solution types. More teacher's union raises, more cops, more more more. The solution is less involvment and more direct assistance to families, obviously. Dis intermediate the careerist log rollers in the public $ bizness...

Sep. 04 2014 11:24 AM

Is Cuomo corrupt?
He "investigated" a woman who put defaulted HUD mortgages on the internet for bid.
She had raised HUD's default recovery rate from about 5% to about 90%.
Which left less spread for his cronies to harvest in poorly publicized auctions.
Just before he left HUD, he quietly closed the unjustified investigation.

Sep. 04 2014 11:24 AM

Is Governor Cuomo corrupt? Yes! Is this debate a disservice to democracy? Yes! Are these two candidates predictable? Yes! Should Howie Hawkins be in this radio debate? Yes!

Sep. 04 2014 11:24 AM
Estelle from Brooklyn

As much as I am disappointed in Cuomo's unwillingness to debate, he does have a point. The formats of some political debates are really bad, often depending on talking points rather than real debating. The discussion on this show is an exception.

Sep. 04 2014 11:22 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Ms. Teachout just mentioned infrastructure. Could you ask her & Mr. Astorino their positions on this issue?

Sep. 04 2014 11:22 AM

This debate is "defective by design", as Tim Wu's friends at the Electronic Frontier Foundation might say. Brian made fun of Cuomo's claim that debates can be a "disservice to democracy", but by arbitrarily excluding Green Party candidate Howie Hawkins from *this* debate, Brian has proved Cuomo right.

Zephyr Teachout is being promoted by progressive Democrats as a principled person who will stand up against corruption and stand up for real democracy. So why did she agree to this debate? Why are Teachout and Lehrer complying with Astorino's refusal to debate third parties?

You might answer "hey, Teachout is doing what she has to, to win." Well, you have pointed out for us exactly where Teachout's principles end. And if she is willing to cave on those principles for a public radio debate, what do you think she'll do under pressure in Albany?

This is not a "primary debate". Astorino and Teachout are not competing for a party nomination. Howie Hawkins has a guaranteed spot on the general election ballot in November and he's polling at 7%, despite by being ignored by downstate media like Lehrer. There is no reason to have excluded him from this debate, except for political prejudice against third parties and Astorino's ongoing tantrum about debating independent candidates.

And now the candidates, as I type this, are hammering Cuomo about his "debates are a disservice to democracy"! And they are the ones who agreed to arbitrarily exclude candidates from the debate *they agreed to*, right now! This is **insane**.

Sep. 04 2014 11:20 AM

The media, this show included, has effectively relegated political debate and campaigns to the lowest possible relevance due to veiling this as a debate leading up to the primary, but including Astorino, a candidate not participating in the Democratic primary, but not Howie Hawkins of the Green Party, among others who are legitimately on the gubernatorial ballot.

The cognitive dissonance resulting from these two candidates seeking debates, and criticizing Cuomo's refusal to debate, while limiting this "debate" to two candidates only, one of which won't even be in the General Election, is staggering.

Sep. 04 2014 11:19 AM

Is Cuomo soft on corruption?
While running HUD he made $59 billion disappear in 1 year. Then he "fixed" the accounting so we couldn't determine how much was missing the next year.
He was rewarded for this corruption by being supported for Atty. Gen. & Gov.

Sep. 04 2014 11:18 AM
Jake Anderson from Brooklyn

Listening to these two is like watching the political sub-plot in The Good Wife.

Could they be more generic or predictable? Not one original answer between the two of them.

Yuck. If this who the leaders of New York are - no wonder we are doing so poorly.

Sep. 04 2014 11:13 AM
MN from NY

In Common Core, 6+9 is only 15 if kids can prove that 6-5 is 1 and 1 plus 9 is 10 and then 10 plus 5 is 15. Come on!!

Sep. 04 2014 11:10 AM
MN from NY

We spend $$$$ to meet stupid mandates that have nothing to do with our schools. Local schools need local control!!

IF we wanted to do well, let states choose the best standards like MA for Language Arts. Common Core will not teach children math well enough. Common Core Science is all about Environmentalism and is pro-GMO. Mastery-based learning works well for the corporate/techno take over of schools thanks to GATES!!

Sep. 04 2014 11:07 AM

Astorino can't even run Westchester. I'm a CSEA employee and we have gone 5 years without as much as a cost of living raise, and never had a contract while he's been county executive. Now WNYC doesn't have Howie Hawkins in the debate. This state is going down the tubes.

Sep. 04 2014 11:07 AM
Collin from Troy

A TRADITIONAL Democrat indeed! Taking a page from the corporatocracy and their political subsidiaries, Cuomo and Astorino: refusing to debate with ALL candidates and preventing New Yorkers the opportunity to decide who they will support.

Sep. 04 2014 11:06 AM
MN from NY

We spend $$$$ to meet stupid mandates that have nothing to do with our schools. Local schools need local control!!

Sep. 04 2014 11:05 AM
W from nyc

If you raise the minimum wage then these fast food jobs will require greater standards like college degrees, and clean records. These people are pricing themselves out!

Sep. 04 2014 11:04 AM
Upstate Rural from Van Etten, NY (Chemung County)

It's useful to hear from these two candidates, even if --for whatever reason-- the others were not included. Thanks to WNYC and the Brian Lehrer for providing this forum/debate and making it available online.

Sep. 04 2014 11:03 AM

Why is Howie Hawkins not in the debate?

Sep. 04 2014 11:02 AM
antonio from baySide

Recently I heard Ralph Nader is looking to trying to work with some Libertarians. Why don't these two combine their forces...
So far Astorino doesn't sound too crazy...

I am going to vote for Zephyr Teachout in the primary....

Sep. 04 2014 10:58 AM
Acacia from Harlem

How does this debate raise the "profile of democracy" when the green party candidate, Howie Hawkins, isn't even invited? Zephyr Teachout will likely not make it past Tuesday, but Howie WILL be on the ballot. You talk big game about bringing information to New Yorkers, but you're really just supporting the status quo and presenting a partial picture of what this race is. If we want a change from Cuomo, we deserve to have all the information about all the serious candidates, and that includes third party candidates. I like this show, but I'm frankly disappointed at the lip service to democracy going on here around this invitation to debate.

Sep. 04 2014 10:58 AM
lk from brooklyn

Cuomo shows that he does not believe in Democracy by not debating. Democracy is served when there is a choice. Cuomo wants to be the New York dictator. He is a bully, dishonest and a coward. Shutting down the Moreland Committee when it got close to him, proved he had much to hide. Why would anyone vote for him? Vote Teachout/Wu in the primary and Hawkins/Jones in November if Teachout does not win.

Including Hawkins would have furthered Democracy.

Sep. 04 2014 10:58 AM
Katie from Huntington

The two areas where I strongly disagree with Gov Cuomo is position on Common Core and taxing the rich. Would you please ask the candidates where they stand on Common Core (not "Education," but "Common Core," and if either one will tax the 1%.? Thank you.

Sep. 04 2014 10:57 AM
Gloria from Brooklyn

Brian Lehrer and Teachout confirm that democracy is only for the few. Astorino, has terrible policies and politics but he has been upfront and honest about not wanting to debate any other candidate but Cuomo. Teachout talks the democracy talk but only where it concerns herself.

True democracy is all candidates debating one another.

If you want a transparent, independent candidate that puts people and the planet before profits vote Howie Hawkins/Brian Jones for Gov & Lt Gov on the Green Party line in November.

Sep. 04 2014 10:57 AM

Why would I watch a debate that does not include Howie Hawkins?

Sep. 04 2014 10:56 AM
Ben from Westchester

Oh please, Mr. Astorino. The LAST thing I need to hear is more complaints on taxes. Blah blah blah blah taxes.

They pay less taxes in New Jersey. And -- guess what? Their trains don't work. Their schools don't work. I would much rather have my great Westchester schools and Metro North and pay my taxes, thank you.

And please shut up about all the business regulation. In Texas, they have none. Hooray for them. And then a chemical plant blows up across the street from a school and they want Federal help. Sorry, babe -- don't build your chemical plants near your schools and regulate the hell out of those guys.


Sep. 04 2014 10:56 AM
Gloria from Brooklyn

Brian Lehrer and Teachout confirm that democracy is only for the few. Astorino, has terrible policies and politics but he has been upfront and honest about not wanting to debate any other candidate but Cuomo. Teachout talks the democracy talk but only where it concerns herself.

True democracy is all candidates debating one another.

If you want a transparent, independent candidate that puts people and the planet before profits vote Howie Hawkins/Brian Jones for Gov & Lt Gov on the Green Party line in November.

Sep. 04 2014 10:51 AM
Monica Arias Miranda

While I appreciate listening to Astorino and Teachout, a better way to inform the voters would have been to include all running for governor including the Green and Libetarian parties.

Sep. 04 2014 10:48 AM
Ramona from Bronx

Ask them each a question about corporate subsidies in NY.

Do you support the State and City and Federal package of over $130 million to the trucking company Fresh Direct to occupy public land on the South Bronx waterfront based on an Environmental Impact Statement over 20 years old, when they already received subsidies to be in Queens and stay there through 2025 and they pay their workers under a Living Wage?

Sep. 04 2014 10:47 AM
Gloria from Brooklyn

Brian Lehrer and Teachout confirm that democracy is only for the few. Astorino, has terrible policies and politics but he has been upfront and honest about not wanting to debate any other candidate but Cuomo. Teachout talks the democracy talk but only where it concerns herself.

True democracy is all candidates debating one another.

If you want a transparent, independent candidate that puts people and the planet before profits vote Howie Hawkins/Brian Jones for Gov & Lt Gov on the Green Party line in November.

Sep. 04 2014 10:44 AM

Pity you couldn't include all the gubernatorial candidates, instead of arbitrarily picking two (one of whom still has to go through a primary). While it’s true that some like Mark (in this thread) are closed-minded, some of us voters want to be thoroughly informed about our choices. ALL our choices. It’s not for the media to decide who is or isn’t a “viable” candidate. That’s the job of us the voters.

Sep. 04 2014 10:44 AM
Jerritt Wahrendorf from Oswego

Why is Howie Hawkins not included in this debate? I refuse to tune in.

Sep. 04 2014 10:43 AM
James Hoff from New York

Seriously, BL!? Teachout and Astorino only? There are many other legitimate candidates in this race, including Howie Hawkins who is polling higher than any other third party candidate for NY governor in decades. I hope you will correct this by having Howie and/or his running mate Brian Jones on your show before the General Election. There is more to politics than Democrats and Republicans.

Sep. 04 2014 10:43 AM

I didn't have any coffee yet, disregard any and all sentence fragments.

Also, the Green Party is a waste of time.

Sep. 04 2014 10:29 AM

Tim Wu is one of the handful of "public intellectuals" aka rockstar bookpeddlers who actually "get it" when it comes to technology and the law. Which is surprising since Columbia tends to have the most bogus stable of rockstars out of all of the luxury education brands.

Sep. 04 2014 10:24 AM
Charles Dunaway from Ithaca

This debate is pointless and undemocratic! You have two candidates who are highly unlikely to ever face one another in an election while leaving out other candidates who definitely will face off. Obviously Governor 1% Cuomo has no intention of debating anyone, but a Hawkins/Astorino debate would make sense since they will face off in November. As a public radio station, you should at least open up the debate to all candidates.

Sep. 04 2014 10:20 AM
Ursula Rozum from Syracuse

Brian Lehrer has been making fun of Cuomo's claim that some debates are a "disservice to democracy"????

By arbitrarily excluding candidates, Lehrer is proving Cuomo right!

Vote Howie Hawkins for Governor

Sep. 04 2014 10:15 AM
Joe Phillips from Pawling, NY

This is an inherently undemocratic debate. Why are you excluding Howie Hawkins? There's no legitimate reason to do so. He's a serious candidate.

Sep. 04 2014 10:14 AM
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Sep. 04 2014 09:38 AM
Francine from Bay Ridge Brooklyn

Vote for Zephyr Teachout, cause she has a really cool name and her running mate Tim Wu is HOT!
(And their like smart and stuff)

Sep. 04 2014 08:48 AM
Kurt from Madison County

What time is the debate?

Sep. 04 2014 06:27 AM

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