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SBA to DNC: "NYC Isn't Safe"

Wednesday, August 27, 2014

NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton boosts Brooklyn for the 2016 Democratic National Convention. NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton boosts Brooklyn for the 2016 Democratic National Convention. (Brigid Bergin/WNYC)

Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association, talks about why the union doesn't support Mayor de Blasio's bid for Brooklyn to host the 2016 Democratic National Convention. In his open letter to the DNC chair, Mullins wrote that the city is "lurching backwards to the bad old days of high crime." 

Does he really believe that convention-goers wouldn’t be safe in 2016?

Yes, Mullins said on the show. “Unfortunately the mayor is trying to change the topic by making this about contract talks.” The clashes between protestors and police in 2004 is what he’s trying to avoid.  

Are the other cities being considered actually safer? (both Philadelphia and Phoenix, as other large cities, had lower murder rates in 2012 according to FBI stats)

“What I am highlighting is that crime is beginning to slide and the shootings are the beginning of it… It’s easy to sit and talk about what’s there today. How do you know the city of Philadelphia is not going to have low crime stats in two years from now, or any of the other cities? We’re talking about where we’re at today and what we’re seeing as a sliding effect based on this mayor’s policies.”

On Broken Windows policing:

“It’s a smoke and mirrors game. It’s ‘enforce Broken Windows’ until something goes wrong and then everyone talks about why we’re not enforcing it. Why are we not prosecuting marijuana arrests in Brooklyn? Why is that happening? We’re not supposed to make arrests now for loosies… If you don’t want minor crimes on the books, then change the laws. You can’t have it both ways.”

On crime statistics, which show that while shootings are up other crimes (including crimes overall) are down:

“Why are the shootings up? Because there’s more guns on the street,” Mullins said. “I am not saying unequivocally that there is [a connection between changes to Stop and Frisk and the rise in shootings]. What I am saying is that the scale is beginning to slide and if the policies of this administration do not change then come 2016 what will this city look like?”

On Stop and Frisk:

Under the Ray Kelly administration, Stop and Frisk was “a numbers game”, Mullins said, “and it was wrong and the community was somewhat of a victim to I’m sure many stops that probably occurred. And they have a valid argument for their expressions and their feelings. But the reverse of it now is policies that are in place to which the police officers don’t really know where they stand. We’re being second-guessed as to what takes place out there and what we’re seeing is an increase in guns and an increase in shootings.” Mullins said One Police Plaza needs to create “clear and concise” policies for what’s expected of officers. “We have lost the presumption of innocence for police officers.”

Was he referring to Al Sharpton as one of the “anti-safety agitators” and “anti-safety political opportunists” in his letter to the DNC?

“No doubt… What has Al Sharpton really accomplished for the City of New York?” Mullins said. “You always need people who represent the community,” he added, citing community board leaders and clergy. “Are you telling me that Al Sharpton is a credible individual based on his history?... We’re looking at an individual who has been nothing but divisive to law enforcement.” Mullins added that if the mayor wanted to work on improving relations between communities and the police he should bring in other clergy.

Has he heard back from the DNC?

"No and I don't think they will reply... What many people seem to not realize is that New York is a Democrat state and their real value is not in New York." Columbus, he added, might be a good choice.  

Guests:

Ed Mullins

Comments [66]

amalgam from NYC by day, NJ by night

@ Mark - Sorry, but you're facts are wrong. You claim that "Garner was killed by his own obesity," not by the "infamous choke-hold."

Actually, the NYC coroner determined otherwise:

HOMICIDE: Medical examiner says NYPD chokehold killed Staten Island dad Eric Garner
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/eric-garner-death-ruled-homicide-medical-examiner-article-1.1888808#ixzz3Bn4SDUWa

If you think the issue is about people "supporting" Eric Garner, you're wrong; it's about correcting abusive, disproportionate, unlawful policing. I might be mistaken, but I think there are many policing options between "allowing" people to sell loosies and guns on the street to cops killing suspected lawbreakers.

(Remember, Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat, or innocent until proven guilty?)

Aug. 29 2014 10:24 AM

Brian, good interview, and thanks for having this guy on. That Ed Mullins is in a leadership position within the NYPD is illuminating. I'm not anti-police. I have had some good enough experiences with police here (probably helps that I'm white). But what Ed Mullins should be concerned about is that his union members are doing their job as well as they can, which means if citizens are expressing overwhelming concern about their stop & frisk tactics, he needs to listen, respond, and not go on the defensive. Mullins seems more concerned with opening a political fight with Mayor de Blasio, which makes me wonder whether he is committed to doing his job under a mayor whose politics he disagrees with. New Yorkers did not elect you, sir, we elected Mayor de Blasio. Even though I have mixed feelings about the convention being in Brooklyn, Mr. Mullins' letter was immature, totally political, and I think did not help his cause. It's probably not a surprise that he's a Republican http://observer.com/2014/08/police-union-head-trying-to-keep-dnc-out-of-brooklyn-is-a-republican/

Aug. 28 2014 12:45 PM
Colin from Brooklyn

@Allen, Did you compare Al Sharpton to Adolph Hitler?? Al wasn't elected by anybody or is he a head of government with a genocidal program. He was requested by the Garner family to speak on their behalf. But I will let him defend himself, he's a big boy. Just not as big as he used to be.

I did not ever say that the rioters of Crown Heights were right! They were totally wrong! But the peaceful demonstrators had a point which were overshadowed by the rioters. The point of perceived preferential treatment of city government of one group over another.

"The USA as a society respects those that respect others, Whites , Blacks & Latinos alike. We don't respect those who are divisve and inciteful" You ARE KIDDING??? Right??? Let's see: Slavery, Jim Crow (both south and north, only the south was more open and honest about it), real estate redlining, The Trail of Tears, The Chinese Exclusion Act, The Japanese-American internment during WWII, The Mexican-American War, the KKK, the John Birch Society, the Know Nothing Party. Oh I can go on and on and on! Fact is Allen is that Pogroms wasn't just a European thing. It was practiced fully here on this side of the Atlantic too.

@Mark, from my time in the NYPD I was taught from the Academy to my narcotics training that as soon you place somebody under arrest he/she is your responsibility including their health and physical well being. "Take care of your perps" they say b/c good treatment of perps pays dividends down the line like good street intelligence later on. As soon as your prisoner says he/she can't breath you give him/her air get medical attention, make sure EMS do their job on "your prisoner" not waiting around for God only knows what and you waving at the camera.

Aug. 27 2014 09:27 PM
Mary from Carroll Gardens

Mullins seems to have no clue about NYC and where it is right now. Probably lives on L.I. I walked past Met Food on Smith St. tonight and it had closed. Closed. Not because it wasn't making it, no, but because this is a rapidly gentrifying community. The one story building will be demolished to make way for a high rise luxury building. I am urban to the core and have been for 6 decades and cannot believe that I will be living in a downtown area that has no supermarket. I now join the poor people who cannot afford cars (I don't have one by choice) and therefore cannot get to Fairway or Whole Foods on 3rd Street. This is what I and other New Yorkers care about - the price of gentrification for middle class folks like myself. This pattern is repeating itself all over Brooklyn so Mullins can't convince me that crime is on the rise. What an excuse of a leader.

Aug. 27 2014 09:03 PM
Mark

Garner was killed by his own obesity. If you actually watched the video the infamous choke-hold was not on him as he was dying. If your heart can't support your blubber don't get all worked up trying to resist arrest. Really though you would think after getting arrested 30 times he would get the message that people selling loosies aren't welcome in that area. Finally, to all the Garner supporters: what say you about his lawsuit setup cameraman being later arrested for carrying an illegal handgun? You want Garner and his gun toting homeboy selling cigarettes to your kids in your neighborhood? Feel free to invite these guys onto your street and let them do their thing in your local shopping strip if you support them so much, maybe even purchase some smokes and a gun or two to help them out!

Aug. 27 2014 05:00 PM
Allen from Brooklyn

Colin,

Firstly, Hitler was elected democraticlly too. Just because one is a leader that doesn't make him morally correct. The USA as a society respects those that respect others, Whites , Blacks & Latinos alike. We don't respect those who are divisve and incitefull.
I won't get into the crown hieghts debate. But suffice it to say even if the paramedics on the secene where wrong, two wrongs don't make a right. The riots and murder of Yankel Rosenbaum that took place thereafter were totally uncalled for in a cvillized society. Al Shrapton incited and encourged those riots. If he were to denounce his prior actvity as a mistake that he made early on in his actvisim I would agree with you. But he hasn't. Therefore, he has no place in our society, no matter who or how he represents period.

Aug. 27 2014 03:23 PM
amalgam from NYC by day, NJ by night

@ gene - The question is not whether Garner is "some sort of innocent victim" (who has claimed that?), but the disproportionate response to an minor, unlawful behavior (misdemeanor not felony).

The bottom line is that the cops poor practices and behavior killed Garner, which is true regardless of the crime he committed and the debatable fact of whether he was resisting arrest. There is no _right_ "poster child for the abuses of police," just the determination of whether abuse occurred given the context of the situation. Considering the outcome of death by unlawful chokehold, the situation is likely police abuse.

As for Mullins, the vast majority of problems that occurred during the 2004 Republican Convention demonstrations came because of police overreach, which I personally witnessed.

Mullins must have a crystal ball, because he seems certain about where NYC is "sliding" to without a large data set or extensive empirical evidence on which to make his assertions. Maybe tomorrow we'll wake up and it will be _Escape from New York_ 1981 (which was largely filmed in St. Louis).

Aug. 27 2014 02:54 PM
Colin from Williamsburg, Brroklyn

@Allen, I am an Afro/Caribbean_American and I have to say you as a outsider don't get to choose our leaders. Like I as a American citizen have no say in who gets to be the Israeli PM. We choose our leaders even if they come with a certain amount of baggage and that goes double for Sgt. Mullins. I have my issues with Rev. Sharpton, particularly in the early years of his activism but what he as said about both the case of Eric Garner and of Michael Brown Jr. as been on point. Our members of the law enforcement community do have held to an account.

I am retired member of the NYPD who spent the majority of my career in Brooklyn. I was part of the department at the time of the Crown Heights Riots. I even I had friends who were part of the Grand Rebbe's motorcade that cause the accident that killed Gavin Cato. Talk about special treatment. No other members the of clergy in this city even the Archbishop of the New York Archdiocese gets a police escort to visit the grave of their relatives. But I digress. If the members of the Hatzolah EMS who were the first emergency medical personnel on the scene. Upon seeing Gavin Cato's banged up body and that of his younger female cousin, remember he was about eight years old at the time, had not stepped over his body to tend to the minor injuries of the rabbinical students who caused the accident in the first place. But instead would have taken the young children who obviously and much more serious injuries into their ambulance then to the trauma center at either nearby Brookdale Hospital or King County. There would not have been any riots. That gesture was the spark that set off a whole lot of tension that had been building for decades.

Aug. 27 2014 02:42 PM
Salvatore from Greenwich Village

This cop needs to stand down and be immediately dismissed because he's obviously unwilling to do his job unless he gets to do it his way. He works for the people of the city of New York as well as the Mayor and he is insubordinate, disrespectful and has contempt for the rule of law (and the constitution) as interpreted by his superiors.

Aug. 27 2014 01:28 PM
Allen from Brooklyn

Brian,

I was a little suprised that an intellectual such as yourself considers Al Shharpton as a fair representive of his people. As an orthdox jew I remember the 1993 riots and Shrapton's role in inciting violenece against jews. It's all recorded. Here is a quote from Mr. Shrapton's eulogy of Gavin Cato

"It’s an accident to allow an apartheid ambulance service in the middle of Crown Heights. … Talk about how Oppenheimer in South Africa sends diamonds straight to Tel Aviv and deals with the diamond merchants right here in Crown Heights. The issue is not anti-Semitism; the issue is apartheid."

Mr. Shrapton is a shame to the African American people.And even if he does represent a group of people one who is a bigot and divisive should have no place on the table with the mayor. We don't sit down with Bin Laden or Hitler either.

Aug. 27 2014 12:01 PM
Roy from Queens

When is this guy coming to get his own sitcom produced by Norman Lear?

Aug. 27 2014 12:01 PM

A little revisionist-video-viewing on this board.

It's plain to see that Garner _was_ resisting arrest, and continued to do so, energetically, until he was brought under control by the assembled gnats. What were they supposed to do when someone about to be arrested starts flinging 50-lb hunks of meat and bone around? Ever been hit by arms that size? Believe me, you _stay_ hit. Especially if you're a full head and shoulder shorter, and half the weight. What action did you want them to take? Take a blow or two that would lay them out? Get thrown into a shop window? Back off and say, "ok, never mind, you can go now"?

But if you, Garner, are a giant bear of a man, dwarfing any of the cops, and you have heart disease and asthma, here's a wild idea--DON'T RESIST ARREST. DON'T START FLINGING THOSE GIANT, DANGEROUS ARMS ABOUT.

(The faults of police and responders once he was under control--that's a different matter, and deserves scrutiny.)

I've seen individual cops acting arrogantly, and recently too. It was worse in the past, but still exists today.

But in this particular case, I don't see any way to bring under control a gigantic offender resisting arrest that's NOT going to endanger his already fragile health.

I'll suggest also that condemning neighborhood kids (the main purchasers of loosies) to a lifetime of addiction and subsequent disease and death is no small matter.

This is the wrong poster child for the abuses of police, which is a legitimate concern. But to lionize Garner, an addicter of kids, as some sort of innocent victim is outrageous.

PS:

The ban on choke holds isn't absolute. Did you see the guy rampaging through a suburban neighborhood with a machine gun that same week? How'd the lone cop take him down? Choke hold. No one whined, "hey, no choke holds!""

Aug. 27 2014 11:21 AM
Katherine from Brooklyn

Good questions, Brian! You had this guy at every turn, refuting him with hard evidence that made him look like the fool he is. He isn't interested in facts, though, only in his bigoted beliefs and projections for the future of our city.

That said, I hope the Democratic convention goes to another city! If it's here, at Barclay Center, it will be a total zoo in our relatively quiet neighborhood.

Aug. 27 2014 11:02 AM
Suzanne Parker from Queens

I can't imagine anything more disloyal to our city than besmirching its reputation for safety in order to deprive the city of the benefits of hosting the DNC.

Aug. 27 2014 10:42 AM
Philior

Whether intentionally or by omission, Brian didn’t distinguish between the number of shootings and number of homicides.
The latter does not represent the level of gun problem as adequately as the number of shootings.
It can be useful, perhaps, in evaluating the aiming efficiency of the shooters; but we need to remember that 0 homicides does not mean 0 shootings, nor – 0 crime.

Brian should know better that shootings won’t resume the next day after reversing of “stop&frisk”; obviously and explainably it took some time to pick up. So Brian’s attempt to argue for De Blasio’s policy was not too kosher.

Brian’s subjective evaluation of the letter by Ed Mullins as an attempt to “Scare off the Democratic National Convention” is very telling of Brian’s impartiality.

Aug. 27 2014 10:39 AM
Amy from Manhattan

The amazing thing is, most of what Mr. (Sgt.?) Mullins said on the show was actually more moderate than his claims in the letter he wrote.

The most relevant comparison is to the *Republican* National Convention in NYC in 2004...where the police committed abuses against protestors (whom Mr. Mullins compared to criminals) & were exposed by their own videos shown in court. That's probably the most dangerous prospect of the specific act of having the DNC in Brooklyn.

Finally, the stats on both overall crime & shootings are very short-term & don't prove causation. Mr. Mullins talked about them as if they did.

Aug. 27 2014 10:39 AM
james from Harlem

Brian's referral to the reduction of stop and frisks under then Bloomberg/Kelly administration is a little faulty. There may have been an actual reduction of stops, but not as the result of a very public announcement and media fueled (this show very included). This means that the reduction in stops may not have necessarily reduced the pyschological deterrent effect on people planning to carry guns. I don't think perps take polls, count cops or look at stop pattern statistics before deciding to carry a gun on the street. If they think a copight be around the corner, they will leave the gun at home or buy one in the first place. But if the administration and media telegraph the reduction or cessation of stop and frisk, the fear of getting caught is now underweighted by the rationale to carry the gun. If the police were to announce publically that cops will only stop using breathelizers 4 days a week, more people will drink and drive.

Aug. 27 2014 10:39 AM

The more Mullins talks the better case he makes for making ALL NYPD officers have uniform cameras all the time.

And law & regulations should make shutting the cameras off against the law.

So far he's admitted that the NYPD sergeants & training command are incapable of instructing their officers how to conduct a Constitutionally-correct stop & frisk & he quotes figures that sergeants are able to massage at the precinct level. Given the Bloomberg data massaging & past problems w/ PD data, Mr. Mullins makes himself a major factor in any "anti-police" atmosphere.

Thanks for letting him talk. He didn't help himself, his union or the NYPD reputation.

Aug. 27 2014 10:30 AM
elizabeth from Brooklyn

This is the first time I've ever had to turn off the Brian Lehrer Show. Edward Mullins is a disgrace, and the fact that he is a chosen representative for the SBA says volumes about the current mentality of cops. The sheer audacity & unmitigated white privilege of challenging the credibility of previous callers & guests is mind-blowing.

Aug. 27 2014 10:29 AM
Kate from Hamilton Heights

He is setting up a situation where if the convention is here, he and his organization have an interest in seeing it go badly in order to prove that they were right that it shouldn't have come.

What's more, he just proved his bias when he said that "New York is a Democrat city." Only Fox-Republicans say "Democrat" when the word is "Democratic."

Aug. 27 2014 10:27 AM
Enrique Edward from Fresh Meadows

Ed Mullen totally demonstrates why seeing a police officer does not make me feel safe. Seeing a police officer does not not make my friends feel safe (we've discussed this). This is #myNYPD. They make me feel threatened and nervous. I am no criminal. I am just a law abiding brown man in his 30's.

No wonder morale in the police department is so low - most of New York City sees them as rude thugs NOT here to protect and serve. The more this guy talks, the more us New Yorkers realize the police are not our friends and that makes me sad and really mad.

Aug. 27 2014 10:26 AM
Tom

In addition to Hitler and the Holocaust, we should add "Tawana Brawley" to Godwins Law.

Aug. 27 2014 10:25 AM
Seth from Nyc

Sure sure, he wants the police to get their rights perhaps he needs to remind his members that when they are beating down of "innocent until proven guilty" new yorkers for a possible infraction.
Of course it is about their contract negotiations.

Aug. 27 2014 10:23 AM
Seth

The GOP Convention is a horrible stain on all police in this City. sad.

Aug. 27 2014 10:23 AM
JR from nyc

completely agree with the cab driver who just called. most cops are on a power trip and act like they're above the law.

Aug. 27 2014 10:22 AM
John from Bklyn

The hallmark of the textbook psychopath is lying without caring about being caught.

Tawana Brawley was “way back?”

No one in public life fits the definition of a psychopath more than Al Sharpton.

Aug. 27 2014 10:21 AM
Les from LES

Mullins makes a good point. If you don't want a law enforced, take it off the books.
Aren't we always touting the Rule of Law?

Aug. 27 2014 10:21 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Ed, stop. You're all over the place. And nowhere. You make a claim, unequivocally, then say you are asking a question...And, yes, citizens -- of ALL groups -- generally need to pick better 'leaders'. But, no, YOU can't choose for them.

Aug. 27 2014 10:21 AM

I feel bad this was the choice the SBA had as a leader.

The police are my employee. They need to be put back inline

Aug. 27 2014 10:21 AM
Latin from Manhattan

What a crock of garbage! This is just an anti-deBlasio tactic, that's all.

Aug. 27 2014 10:20 AM
genejoke from Brooklyn

Brian, thanks for giving this dope enough rope to hang himself.

Aug. 27 2014 10:20 AM
Dennis from Manhattan

So many people insist on making this about Al Sharpton. I wish we had more visible spokespeople in the black community than Al Sharpton, but he's right on this issue. And Mullens is being disingenuous when he says his ad wasn't meant to threaten DeBlasio. And if "crime" rates are rising, can we agree that random stop-and-frisks of innocent African American citizens feel very much like "crime" to them? Artificial techniques to reduce "crime" by criminalizing innocent people aren't legitimate civil law enforcement strategies.

Aug. 27 2014 10:20 AM
inwoodita from nyc

Okay, who invited someone's annoyingly conservative uncle at the Thanksgiving dinner to the show? Why do we have to hear this guy go on and on like a thinly veiled bigot? We all know what he's trying to do and say here. Why waste a show segment on him?

Aug. 27 2014 10:20 AM
Steve Eisenberg from Springfield, NJ

This guy is the single worst spokesman for police I have ever heard.

Aug. 27 2014 10:19 AM
Sara from Brooklyn

Mr. Mullins has no credibility in my book. He complains that the police are not given the benefit of the doubt when there is an incident between an officer and citizen. What about the presumption of innocence of a young black man walking down the street? I call b.s. on 90% of what this man is saying.

Aug. 27 2014 10:16 AM
Leo A from NJ

Give the cop a chance even if he is filmed using too much force on an individual. I guess the cop had a good reason to beat someone with a baton.

Aug. 27 2014 10:16 AM
HarbingerBK from Brooklyn

This guy is unreal. Incredibly biased toward his pals in the force, and f&*$ the citizens.
"I AM THE LAW!!"

Aug. 27 2014 10:16 AM
Clif

Yes, this guy Ed Mullins is really lost. Reality check: the police are losing credibility because they are ABUSING PEOPLE!! Eric Garner didn't look like he was resisting arrest before the officer put him in the choke hold.

Ugh, I can't even listen to this guy anymore. Someone give him some toilet paper. He got some #@!$ coming out of his mouth.

Aug. 27 2014 10:15 AM
Joe from location

Guest: "Cops have lost the presumption of innocence."
-Baloney, cops have WAY MORE rights effectively than the minority kid they roust on the street.

"What exactly does the public want us to do?"
-Follow the Constitution. Maybe he's heard of it?

This guest is patently absurd. Brian, just let him keep talking- anyone can see it.

Aug. 27 2014 10:14 AM
dan k from brooklyn

Please acknowledge that when speaking of historical percentages of those caught with weapons in Stop & Frisk's heyday never accounted for the deterrent measures it may have had. We cannot know how many criminals would have normally carried a weapon were it not for stop and frisk

Aug. 27 2014 10:13 AM
Leo A from NJ

Give the cop a chance even if he is filmed using too much force on an individual. I guess the cop had a good reason to beat someone with a baton.

Aug. 27 2014 10:12 AM
Herb

FOP and Mullin -- total joke. they forget that they work for us -- or, rather, they don't care. get rid of cops who forget that they protect AND SERVE. we don't need them, ferguson doesn't need them, no one does. plenty of worthy cops who serve honestly; get rid of the arrogant wants who want to rewrite individual liberties.

Aug. 27 2014 10:11 AM
Pablo Alto from Da' Bronx

It is extremely difficult to listen to the elected representatives of the police unions discuss these issues. His language is a very thinly veiled attack on communities of color where many of HIS members are viewed as an occupying force. His position is misleading at best, and reeks of self-serving propaganda.

Aug. 27 2014 10:10 AM
Bebe from Queens

Mullins says: If Eric Garner hadn't resisted arrest, maybe he wouldn't be dead now. Wow. Really? The fact that he was dog-piled by a bunch of policemen while one of them choked him to death as he screamed "I can't breathe" was his own fault. That says it all.

This is all about stop and frisk. Sour grapes, a preference for brute force and a disregard for civil rights. Transparent, crude, cynical and sad.

Aug. 27 2014 10:10 AM
kc from Massapequa

I am a 66 year old white Long Island, woman. I think that the NYC Police union should be ashamed of themselves and that Mullins is a blemish on New Yorkers. I think that he is the one fear mongering and playing a race card. Tomorrow, I'm going into the City. I go in regularly and travel into Brooklyn and Manhattan by LIRR. I think that I have as much to fear (I don't) from police as I do from other New Yorkers!

Aug. 27 2014 10:09 AM
DC from Sunset Park

This guy sounds more like a talking head than an informed and calm voice compared to a lot of the other guests. It sounds more like political whining than offering actual solutions.

Aug. 27 2014 10:09 AM

Contrary to what bigots like Ed Mullins think, the mayor's obligation is to _New Yorkers_ -- not to the NYPD. Cops have the same rights as other New Yorkers. If Mullins wants a state where cops are "privileged," he's in the wrong country.

Ed Mullins is contending that cops were just enforcing the law in the case of Eric Garner, he shouldn't be in the NYPD at all. Is he unaware of longstanding regulations on choke holds?

Aug. 27 2014 10:08 AM
Pat from nyc

Is he serious? His argument sounds like something from Minority report. How can he know how safe the city will be 2 years from now.

This is fear mongering

Aug. 27 2014 10:07 AM
Jim from Brooklyn

Sliding and swinging! Pendulums! Al Sharpton! Demoralization! BE VERY AFRAID! Al Sharpton is going to slide on a swinging pendulum! Slide! Tipping point!

Aug. 27 2014 10:07 AM

this guy wants a raise

Aug. 27 2014 10:06 AM
rlf from NYC

Poor babies...the police. We must have not given them enough tanks, m16s, $10,000 .50 cal sniper rifles, and other military hardware for them to kill us with!

Aug. 27 2014 10:06 AM
John from Windsor Terrace

Mullins threatens all of us with his bigotry. He has a long history of this.

Aug. 27 2014 10:05 AM
Elsie from Brooklyn

The NYPD is just upset that it can't lock up Black and Latinos as easily as they could under Bloomberg.

This is an obvious political tactic to change the subject from the NYPD murder of Eric Garner. A sad attempt to make "liberals" like de Blasio look like ineffectual leaders. Talk about fear mongering.

Aug. 27 2014 10:05 AM
Kate from Hamilton Heights

Wow, wow, wow. This guy is so out of line. I was going to write something but I'm speechless. Extremely irresponsible to play politics like this.

Aug. 27 2014 10:05 AM
Catherine from Brooklyn

This guy is a petulant, immature idiot. This is juvenile behavior on the part of the police officers. They should be embarrassed.

Aug. 27 2014 10:04 AM
Joe from comment


So this guest wants to return to the racist stop and frisk practices?
Seriously?

Aug. 27 2014 10:04 AM
David H. from Fanwood, NJ

Mr. Mullins was reported in the NY Times on August 24 as criticizing the United Federation of Teachers for participating in Saturday's demonstration concerning the Eric Garner incident. Specifically, he asserted that the UFT essentially asked its members to march against their police officer relatives. He seems to believe that to criticize any police officer is to criticize all police officers. If this view prevails, there will never be any criticism of any police action.

Aug. 27 2014 10:01 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Really hope that the sergeant -- unlike the little chickens making unsupported claims on this board -- will AT LEAST offer evidence for what he speaks. But even with hard evidence (whatsoever) of increased crime, it's still hot air; heat and no light: In the face of clear police excesses, there's no call for better training, etc. Just categorical, complicit nonresponsiveness. Shame.

Aug. 27 2014 09:58 AM
Walter from Across the Hudson

Many of you regulars on this comment board need to get beyond NYC for a while and see how warped is your faux global but extremely tiny sense of the world.

Aug. 27 2014 09:51 AM
Lloyd from Murray Hill

Can't Mullins admit that it is police misconduct that is bringing down the reputation of the NYPD and police depts. all around the country. DeBlasio is the only one who can repair the NYPD by restoring civil conduct by police officers and thus, community respect and support.

But I do agree with Mullins that the Democratic convention should not come here. 2004 was a disaster, thanks to the police riot for which we are still paying millions in damages to citizens wrongly arrested and brutalized. And contrary to what Bloomberg told us, the 2004 convention cost the city millions in lost revenue -- all the restaurants I know were empty because customers stayed far away.

Aug. 27 2014 09:45 AM

NYC under deBlasio, like America under Obama, is group insanity and a collective loss of memory about things that sound good ... but have NEVER worked.

It's all going to go downhill.

Aug. 27 2014 09:23 AM

Brian & producers - Where's the link to the ad??? Shouldn't everybod be able to see whether the SBA is blowing off steam or trying to extort a contract?

Aug. 27 2014 09:09 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

JMD

Wait till your first mugging. That usually changes liberal minds almost instantaneously.

Aug. 27 2014 09:06 AM
JMD from Manhattan

Could it be possible that the SBA knows the "Bloomberg free reign/anything goes/uncritical support (..of the NYPD) era" is over, and that his "outrageous" comments are nothing more than a not so veiled expression of SOUR GRAPES! Elections have consequences.....

Aug. 27 2014 08:48 AM
Mike from Williamsburg

Why SHOULD the NYPD have good morale? They don't do a good job. They killed Eric Garner. They just spent 2 weeks harassing cyclists which will have almost no effect on safety in this city. The two biggest types of arrests they make now are for drugs (which usually aren't hurting anyone) and not paying subway fares. They're not even doing an important job.

I started asking myself "why SHOULD the NYPD have good morale?" back in 2011 when Edward Mullins complained that if police officers didn't get all their parking/speeding tickets fixed for themselves and their friends, that would hurt morale. I'll never forget the chants of "it's a courtesy, not a crime."

Any move toward accountability will hurt morale. Know what? That's just too bad.

Aug. 27 2014 08:42 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

As was widely predicted before the election of our "progressive" mayor, the city is regressing back to the bad old days. Times may change but people don't, especially the criminal class.

Aug. 27 2014 08:25 AM

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