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The Rebirth of Hillary Clinton

Wednesday, February 12, 2014

Jonathan Allen of Politico and Amie Parnes of The Hill give an account of Hillary Clinton's political rebirth following her defeat in the 2008 Democratic primary. Their new book HRC: State Secrets and the Rebirth of Hillary Clinton, is based on interviews with Hillary’s intimates, colleagues, supporters, enemies, and those deep inside her inner circle, and is a comprehensive look at one of the most important female politicians in American history, the woman who may be the next president.

Guests:

Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes

Comments [11]

RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

@ Tess from Everywhere

"Also, Ted Kennedy threw his heft in support of Obama, AFTER having promised his support to Hillary Clinton..."

Perhaps you are forgetting Bill Clinton's demeaning aside to Ted Kennedy about Obama and his background? WJC thought an appeal to old school racialism would work on Teddy. It was a complete mis-read and backfired horribly. After that, Kennedy and his clan came out full-heartedly for Obama.

Obama beat Clinton. Get over it. Let's hope Clinton can beat Paul.

Feb. 13 2014 01:07 PM
Robert Morrow from Austin, TX

The Clintons’ Greatest Shame: Chelsea is the biological daughter of Webb Hubbell http://1984arkansasmotheroftheyear.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-clintons-greatest-shame-chelsea-is.html

Feb. 12 2014 03:15 PM
john from Staten Island from nyc

I think that becoming the Sec. of state was actually a great addition to her resume. She proved to be her own women outside of Bill's shadow. To me her most iconic moment was when she was sitting in the Operation's center when they took out Ben Laden. Sitting with the real old boys club (only women in the room)with her hand on the trigger and the guts to pull it. Sweet. I would have voted for her had she beat Obama to the nomination. If she runs in 2016 I'll still vote for her. btw I'm a black (male) american and proud of it.

Feb. 12 2014 01:35 PM
shashinyc from Manhattan

Amie Parnes (she must be the designated hitter) has uttered the phrase "in the book" at least 20 times! It's a depressing reminder that guests on talk shows from Lopate to Letterman are usually booked not for their importance to issues of the day but because they've got something to sell and the show gets free talent in exchange. While their PR people must issue explicit instructions to use these pitch phrases, the repetition gets annoying. On the other hand, it could be a great drinking game!

Feb. 12 2014 12:59 PM
Tess from Everywhere

Also, Ted Kennedy threw his heft in support of Obama, AFTER having promised his support to Hillary Clinton, thereby causing all substantial democrats in office to HAVE to go out and campaign for Obama. Many, had already promised to campaign for Hillary Clinton. Traitors. This caused the Democrat party to all go for Obama, leaving Hillary Clinton all on her own, save a few honorable democrats. Kennedy didn't even live to see what he had done, when Obama took office. All that traitorous politics for NOTHING.

Feb. 12 2014 12:39 PM
Tess

Hillary Clinton did NOT lose the 2008 primary election "because of her Iraq vote" as your guest incorrectly states. She was ahead of Obama in the beginning and then ran neck and neck with him near to the end of the primaries. Obama pulled ahead of Clinton based on his garnering the youth vote of kids ages 18 to 25, based on their falling in love with his Obama "Hope Preacher" routine. Obama has effectively lost the support of this age group of voters now; now that they see his primary "act" was just that, all a big "act."

Feb. 12 2014 12:33 PM
Steve from upper west side - Manhattan

Hillary Clinton's BIGGEST mistake in her failed Presidential campaign of 2008 was that she took the left for granted, seeking the center votes and all but throwing the left under the bus, assuming they had no where to go... Well, what we saw was a large and youthful left swing hard towards the Obama campaign, and therefore without her base support on the left, she had no chance to gain a grass-roots momentum. This same thinking, were it to continue, could be exactly why Elizabeth Warren is her only real concern going forward...

Feb. 12 2014 12:19 PM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

@Scott -

One difference - in 2008 the taint of the events that led to the Clinton impeachment were only ten years old. My own feeling is that I wanted WJC no where near the Oval Office again. It was an overreach to impeach him but his actions HAD dishonored the office.

In 2016, the impeachment will be nearly twenty years old. Just history at that point for much of the electorate...A dark chapter that can be summarized as a political witch hunt intended to embarrass WJC and blunt his wife's potential. HRC own accomplishments (for me) trump all that BS. I would now be very comfortable with WJC's renewed access to the highest powers of the nation.

I still have some misgivings over the DLC way of thinking that the Clintons seem to have fostered. Eight more years of the tax policies and distribution of income that have gone on since Reagan could be the last nail for the American middle class but I will be far more comfortable with a Democrat in the White House than a duplicitous member of the GOP.

Feb. 12 2014 12:15 PM
antonio from baySide

I agree with Scott. Isn't HC in danger from Senator Warren from MA? What makes matters worse (for HC) the need for someone helping the little guy will be more effective...And that message is going to be perfect for Warren...

Feb. 12 2014 12:13 PM

WaPo once removed? Why Politico & The Hill?

The only DC wisdom is to listen to DC consulting types who don't listen to the electorate until they start losing elections.

Feb. 12 2014 12:11 PM
Scott

What is the difference between 2008 when Hilliary was the "inevitable" Democratic nominee at about the same point in time compared to when the primaries were to take place and 2016? Is the only difference that there is no Barack Obama on the horizon? What makes you think the outcome will be any different than 2008?

Feb. 12 2014 09:06 AM

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