Streams

The Private World of Gore Vidal

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Tim Teeman talks about Gore Vidal’s private life. He interviewed many of Vidal’s closest family and friends, including Claire Bloom and Susan Sarandon, and surveyed Vidal’s own personal archive in his book In Bed with Gore Vidal: Hustlers, Hollywood, and the Private World of an American Master.

Guests:

Tim Teeman

Comments [8]

Apropos:
_________Begin QUOTED Text____________

In 1948 Gore Vidal wrote The City and The Pillar, a landmark novel that was the first American novel to showcase two athletic normal masculine teenagers having a homo-erotic affair. The famous sex scene by the river is clearly a scene of frottage.
-----
Geoffrey and his wife (a journalist) had only known "obvious queens" as their reference point for homosexuals. Vidal, all masculine and athletic, was revealing to them in breaking the stereotype. In conversation, Geoffrey said to Vidal that the idea of anal penetration was "pretty repellant" to him. Vidal was taken aback and quickly noted, "Oh we don't do that! We don't do that!" When Geoffrey asked Vidal what he did sexually, he noted that Vidal, "used a curious expression, 'belly rubbing' ... I had never heard of that."

But, doesn't the evidence lead to a clear conclusion that frottage, frot, or "belly rubbing" is the normal and instinctual way to express sexual affection between two males? And, when you accept that as a fact, you come to realize that there are no labels. [3] There are no gays, straights, and bisexuals, as nouns, only as adjectives do they exist.

_______End QUOTED Text________________

Excerpts from:
'The Anal Sex Myth: A Frottage Manifesto'
http://man2manalliance.org/crw/frot/analsexmyth.html

Copyrighted Material.

See also http://funfrotfacts.blogspot.com/ and http://throbert.blogspot.com/ , the blogs of one Rob McGee, who says of himself, "I'm a total homo with no apologies, but please don't call me gay, because it's a stupid word and an even stupider subculture."

REQUISITE DISCLAIMERS: 1.) Graphic, adult content.

2.) Quoting/citing != endorsement

/Be a lover, don't bugger!/

Jan. 17 2014 03:47 PM
Milesand Dizzy from Sydney, Australia

Gore did not want to be ghettoised by his sexuality which he saw as completely normal, it's obvious from his books and his many interviews. It's only this writer and paid up gay activists that don't get it.

Dec. 02 2013 01:07 AM
Poodler61 from Halesite, New York

I've been reading Vidal's Narratives of Empire series (finishing up book 5, Hollywood) and enjoying it thoroughly. Having been thoroughly entertained by Judgement of Paris, the Narratives seemed worth a try and a very good choice. No doubt Vidal would find the first comments from Independent Noach amusing. Buggery? Let me get out my Victorian thesaurus. Oh, right. Moral platitudes from someone who will no doubt leave this earth like everyone one else, before their chosen time and with little renown.

Nov. 26 2013 08:23 PM
cervantes

i'm speaking of Mr.Teeman. and, i don't give a crap about Vidal's foibles;he brought light to discussions on politics, that were not taking place in America. send this petty little termite back across the pond.

Nov. 26 2013 05:30 PM
cervantes

what an idiotic gossip twit. his very breath must reek of tabloid.

Nov. 26 2013 05:23 PM

A hateful, selfish man, a discredit to his kind.

Nov. 26 2013 01:28 PM
Amy from Manhattan

So apparently having & not having power were categories Gore Vidal did believe in?

Nov. 26 2013 01:22 PM
Tony from Canarsie

In the spirit of Vidal, perhaps the title of this book and the one in the next segment might be transposed: "In Bed with Lincoln: Hustlers, Hollywood, and the Private World of an American Master" and "Vidal in the World"?

Nov. 26 2013 12:08 PM

Leave a Comment

Email addresses are required but never displayed.

Get the WNYC Morning Brief in your inbox.
We'll send you our top 5 stories every day, plus breaking news and weather.