Normalizing the Trump Presidency

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Protesters hold signs during a protest against the election of President-elect Donald Trump, Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016, in downtown Seattle.

Hua Hsu, a contributing writer for newyorker.com and The New Yorker, an associate professor of English at Vassar College and former fellow at the New America Foundation, and the author of A Floating Chinaman: Fantasy and Failure across the Pacific (Harvard University Press, 2016), and Masha Gessen, the author of several books on Russia, including The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin (Riverhead Books, 2013), talk about what it means to normalize the presidency of Donald Trump, why it's dangerous, and if it can be avoided.