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New Jersey, Virginia, and Bipartisan America

Wednesday, November 06, 2013

As Republican Chris Christie cruised to re-election in Blue New Jersey, Democrat Terry McCauliffe squeaked out a victory in less-and-less-Red Virginia. Glenn Thrush, White House reporter for Politico, and Nancy Solomon, managing editor of New Jersey Public Radio, discuss the two races and what it says about the GOP, the changing American electorate, and the 2016 presidential race. Plus: a check-in with WAMU's Northern Virginia reporter Michael Pope.

Guests:

Michael Pope, Nancy Solomon and Glenn Thrush

Comments [24]

@Mr. Bad

I have to agree that Christie could do surprisingly well in a general vs. Clinton. But my gut tells me he will never get that far. He personally doesn't have the stomach to shovel enough sh*t to be accepted by the Far Right...This is a point of magnetism for the Independents - precisely the group a pol needs in order to win an election - but it won't attract enough 'winger donor funds to get him past New Hampshire.

My prediction he's done by March 2016. (This opinion subject to change if the GOP grows up and the TP is no longer a motive force in national politics. The Cuccinelli 'near miss' has given them hope.)

Nov. 07 2013 10:27 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ RUCB_Alum

All of those issues are real and worth looking into for NJ voters. It's surprising he gets a "pass" so easily from them when he really hasn't accomplished much as governor but will that matter to a national audience? I don't think so. It certainly speaks to his blue state appeal however.

Also They're not real scandals (at least not yet) and they're too complex for catchy soundbites. As I've said before Christie is a love him or hate him guy and that is good for turn out. Genuine progressives are rare in the USA, most blue staters are like me, socially liberal and fiscally conservative i.e. classical liberal bordering on libertarian. A guy like Christie could flip a lot of states red if he faces Hillary or god forbid Joe Biden.

Nov. 06 2013 04:36 PM

@Mr Bad

"If Christie wins the primary watch out in 2016..."

Gosh! I hope not. I agree with you that Mr. Christie's pivot for GOP voters would be replacing the perception of RINO 'softness' with 'the Left hates him so it's okay to vote for him." However, Mr Christie has more going against him than just Progressive snobbery.

-Does Mary Pat C REALLY have $32M of Sandy relief funds tucked away somewhere?
-Why was Christie so quick to make no-bid deals for Sandy clean up? They are costing muni's 3X the cost of the standard bid process. What is Christie getting for it?
-The Competence question...Why did the state lose the RTTF grant? Park the trains in the Meadowlands? Raise the NJTP and GSP tolls by 50%?

There's enough real stuff to bash Christie with other than his BMI or public demeanor.

Nov. 06 2013 11:44 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

I love how snobby the Christie haters are ... do you realize that the fear and disdain of the holier than thou progressives is catnip to the republican base? They will forget all there RINO rhetoric the second they start to realize how much he is hated by the people they hate. Christie would demolish Hillary, he'll put on the charm and pour on the sandy sap and she'll seem cold, brittle and calculating, which she is. She'd make a far better president, sure, but not if she can't get elected. If Christie wins the primary watch out in 2016.

Nov. 06 2013 11:19 AM

Christie's self-serving speech last night was reminiscent of the keynote he gave at the Republican convention where he focused on himself and made no mention of Romney. Of the speeches I saw last night -- McAuliffe & DeBlasio -- Christie's had the least policy or vision it was all about him. Very striking. I expect as he turns to the national stage his chickens will soon be coming home to roost. I don't see him ever being a national candidate.

Nov. 06 2013 11:19 AM

@hjs11211

"Cucci only lost because of the dc bureaucracy occupation
There's no room in the GOP for squishy moderates
Santorum 2016!!"

Keep dreaming, hjs, the Democrats will have a far easier time sweeping the 'ideologically' pure Santorum and his ilk, aside.

The country needs two strong parties to coalesce around a final compromise position. The problem with the ideologically pure is that they believe compromise is failure and therefore would ruin what they cannot rule. For a democratic republic, their tactics are immature and self-defeating.

Nov. 06 2013 11:19 AM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/11/05/revealed-obama-campaign-bundler-helping-fund-libertarian-in-tight-va-gubernatorial-race/

Nov. 06 2013 11:19 AM
Scott

Don't forget to mention all of the outside money that entered the Virginia govenors race.

Nov. 06 2013 11:18 AM
Joe from nearby

So Nancy Solomon is basically saying that NJ is a cult of personality.

(That never goes well.)

Nov. 06 2013 11:16 AM
Robert from NYC

OMG OMG BAVARIA IS THE NEW JERSEY OF GERMANY?! WWIII to start in Bavaria. LOL, Jesus you know wno!!! LOL

Nov. 06 2013 11:14 AM
Ben from Manhattan

How did this program devolve into an MSNBC sound alike? No depth, plenty of snark. Wow. I think Brian Leher has jumped the shark.

Nov. 06 2013 11:12 AM

I wouldn't vote for a republican if you threatened to cut my arms off. I hope Christie runs against Hillary. She will slaughter him. Not to worry. There's a reality tv show in his future.

Nov. 06 2013 11:11 AM
The Truth from Becky

Congratulations!!!

Nov. 06 2013 11:11 AM

The difference between Christie's performance and his PR is more than just parallax.

The media has been more than willing to play ball on his shortcomings. I think they are collectively afraid of drawing Trenton's ire but in a real sense, to do so is to ignore the reason they exist. Journalists spend 20% of their time reporting the facts and then 80% covering the circus. Like the failure to uncover Bush's 'secret agenda' to invade Iraq, the press is failing to do it's jobs properly and therefore the people are uninformed.

Nov. 06 2013 11:11 AM
Robert from NYC

Oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez. LOL. Maybe warm and magnet it but a charlatan... like Ronal Reagan the ACTOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRR!!

Nov. 06 2013 11:11 AM
chuck

What about the millions of dollars Christie spent setting up a separate special election for the senate seat so Booker wouldn't rain on his parade?

Nov. 06 2013 11:10 AM
Linda Garfinkel from North Jersey

Too much is being made of Christie's "landslide". The NJ Dem's abandoned their candidate. Actually, she was nothing more than a sacrificial lamb. They knew Christie was going to win as the Savior of Sandy, though I am still not sure what he did. Take note that the NJ Legislature is still solidly Democratic. Remember, all politics is local.

Nov. 06 2013 11:09 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

LOL, velvet mafia is out for blood!

"Somebody please stop that awful, awful fat man!"

Calling Christie a bully is so pointless, all politicians are bullies, some are just more honest about. Coercion is the stock and trade or politics.

Nov. 06 2013 11:08 AM
R from town

Christie's re-election is a glaring illustration that anti-bullying efforts have not, to date, been successful.

Nov. 06 2013 11:07 AM
Jane from Morristown

Chris Christie talking about listening? And respect? You bet he's talking over New Jerseyans - I'm remembering his listening and respecting behavior at town hall meetings and I bet I'm not the only one who had a good chuckle at that speech.

Nov. 06 2013 11:04 AM
Stephen from Manhattan

Christie talking about showing respect is a joke. This guy is nothing more than a loud-mouthed bully who doesn't want to listen to anyone. He's called people who've questioned him or his policies as "stupid" and "idiot." The thought of him in the White House is almost scarier than a president Ted Cruz or Rand Paul.

Nov. 06 2013 11:03 AM
mc from Brooklyn

Lol! A noun and a verb and Sandy. Yeah, that strategy worked really well for Giuliani.

Nov. 06 2013 10:59 AM
Janet from LES

WTF is the "Spirit of Sandy"?

Nov. 06 2013 10:56 AM

Cucci only lost because of the dc bureaucracy occupation
There's no room in the GOP for squishy moderates
Santorum 2016!!

Nov. 06 2013 10:29 AM

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