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Monday, December 30, 2013

immigration coverage

Joseph Salvo, director of the population division at the New York City Planning Department and Fatima Shama, Immigration Commissioner, talk about the latest demographic information on shifting immigration trends in NYC.

Guests:

Joseph Salvo and Fatima Shama

Comments [8]

francynepelchar from pelham bay park

There should be a path to citizenship, one that doesn't take a long time, one that requires basic fluency in English and completion of a citizenship course that teaches the basics of USA history and civics. I have taught such a course at a community center in Chicago and in NYPL branches. Classes were always filled to capacity.

Dec. 31 2013 07:59 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Fishmael, sorry fot he late reply but just happened to see your post...Yes, more nuanced data are required. For instance, the notion of immigrant-created jobs is often overstated and the quality of such jobs unaddressed. Texas, for instance, has created 'many' jobs since the crash, but they are all low-waged, which exacerbates the degenerative income divide, which we don't need...As usual comprehensive and accessible info for informed discourse is lacking.

Dec. 30 2013 12:17 PM
Fishmael from NYC

@Fuva from Harlemworld

I think in the broad picture you're correct - but I'm saying there's a need for more nuance, and, especially, data, in order to understand what's going on, especially in the specialized environment of NYC. For instance, immigration on this scale also *creates* jobs... and the more relevant questions overall might include *which* jobs immigrants are in, how much they pay, etc etc. As well as trying to document all the activities that are essentially "off-the-books".

Dec. 30 2013 11:35 AM
Bukola Shonuga from Manhattan

The number of African immigrants population in New York City has quadrupled in the last ten years and the average African couple has at least two children. So an immigrant and independent journalist, I recognized void in servicing this community and founded Welcome To America an agency based in New York City. Our programs are workshops are designed to help new African immigrants gain access to resources that are available within the system. As the gap between the rich and the working poor widens there is an urgent need to help new immigrants and their get the right education and skills that'd help them achieve their American dream.

Dec. 30 2013 11:27 AM
Fuva from Harlemworld

Yes, immigrants exert downward pressure on American workers. Because 1+1=2. Whether or not this is a concern depends on the economy at the time.

Dec. 30 2013 11:19 AM

What am I missing? Many of our Mexican and Central American 'visitors' are just that. Lower class or under-educated former agricultural workers displaced by the advent of North American style agribusiness into their own countries after NAFTA was signed. Their choice was move to the USA or starve. How many of us would not make the same choice? There is no line for allowing these lesser educated workers to immigrate to our nation legally.

If they are truly seeking to become a part of our nation, we need to find a way to give them a legal status. If they intend to make the dough it takes to survive and then move back to the 'old country', I wish they would do us a favor and move back now. Our healthcare and educational system as well as our housing stock are under stress because of their presence.

Dec. 30 2013 11:15 AM
Britta B.

What if you are an undocumented immigrant but want to become legal; do we have a way to do that yet?

Dec. 30 2013 11:09 AM
Fishmael from NYC

I support immigration to NYC, and my grandfather was an immigrant. However, can your guests address the issue of jobs, and how to ensure jobs for both immigrants and native New Yorkers? Are their data on this? Does immigration create downward pressure on jobs for non-immigrants in NYC? Some data and commentary would be welcome and germane to the discussion....

Dec. 30 2013 11:09 AM

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