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The New Multicultural Majority: It's Tomorrow

Thursday, August 21, 2014

United States Capitol building silhouette and US flags at sunrise. (Orhan Cam/Shutterstock)

The Census Bureau calculated that whites would cease to make up a majority of Americans in the year 2042, but Guy Garcia, journalist and president of new mainstream initiatives at EthniFacts, expands the definition and says multicultural Americans will actually move into the majority tomorrow. He and Maria Hinojosa, host of NPR's Latino USA (airing Sundays at 6am and 7pm on AM820), talk about who's counting and why.

EVENT:  Maria Hinojosa and Guy Garcia's press conference on the new multicultural majority happens August 22 at 10 a.m. at Father Duffy Plaza in Times Square, between 46th and 47th Streets. 

Guests:

Guy Garcia and Maria Hinojosa

Comments [40]

Mark

Sorry, LKS, but Whites will just join the other "Model Minorities". Maybe they'll even open up a Whitetown next to Chinatown and Koreatown but your neighborhood will still be a dump and you dad will still be a deadbeat.

Aug. 22 2014 12:51 PM
LKS from Philadelphia

@ CR from Manhattan, the "white, minority part"
<As a white male, I eagerly look forward to claiming my minority status.

really? are you also ready for the beatings of your grandmothers, killing of your children on their way to the store and school and endlessly being pulled over for driving, walking and shot while standing in your own house?

Tip for you: don't even try to go to any store for anything. ever. there you will be followed, arrested, harassed, ignored and treated like the obvious scum you are for daring to buy anything with your stolen money. Grow your vegetables- live off that.

Gear up for your place in the back of the line or not in line at all- lets keep it real- for any job available while the most uneducated, non qualified, family friend of the new 'majority' takes that job and be prepared to work hard on training them and everyone after for promotions while you try feeding your family on less than half of their salary. You won't be able to file lawsuits sir because you'll be too busy working 2 and 3 jobs trying to feed your - of course - way too many children and obviously dodging bullets on your way to the ghetto neighborhood where you obviously live.

You won't be able to choose the parts of minority status most fitting to your liking. You'll take all of it and be grateful for it.

Aug. 22 2014 10:04 AM
Adam Cherson from NY, NY (Megacity #10)

This classification system: whites, people of color, other... is bonkers. We need a more accurate system if we are ever going to overcome the idiocy created by these nonsensical categories. How many of us have been confronted with that famous choice on forms and applications which asks us what we are: white, hispanic, black, pacific islander, etc.... As I have proposed elsewhere we should revamp our ethnic classification schemes entirely and instead use a tripartite system based on cultural/religious identity, national identity, and ancestral genetic identity (from both the male and female lines) as the basis of our system of classification. So instead of defining oneself as white or black we would be defined, for example, Culture: Scotch-Irish, Nationality: Canadian, and Ancestral Genetic: male line: R1b1, female line: T1. As our knowledge of ancestral genetics improves, this classification system can be refined to finer and finer grain scales. This is the only way to approach the truth of our ethnic identities and to begin demystifying what seems to me to be a global identity crisis. For more information on ancestral genetics please take a look at the on-line 'Ancestral Genography Atlas'.

Aug. 22 2014 08:30 AM
Dick Holder from ferguson mo

The decrease in Whites is a dream come true for liberal self hating Whites. The problem is who will run business, heal the sick, get up the morning and go to work and stifle drug sales. Who, the folks in Ferguson, really?

Aug. 21 2014 08:27 PM

@BK from Hoboken - Thanks, and i agree 100% with your post.

Aug. 21 2014 11:51 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The US needs VOTER ID to ensure that voting is fair and that the participants are citizens.

VOTER ID benefits all parties and hurts those who want to cheat.

Plus the US needs to secure its borders.

What nations have open borders? Cuba, Russia, China, UK, France? No way Jose.

Aug. 21 2014 11:31 AM
Mark

Wasn't George Zimmerman some kind of mixed race Latino"? He is as much a glimpse of our "multicultural future" as anything so don't get so excited, history might not go the way you're hoping.

Aug. 21 2014 11:29 AM
Barbara from L.I.

This report reminds me how important voting is, and why reaching out to inform and register new voters is so crucial. Also, a reminder of the new law enabling states to make it more difficult for minority people to vote. What can be done to push back or is it too late?

Aug. 21 2014 11:18 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

What is supposed to be quintissentially "American" is our allegiance to our unique Constitution, and not ethnic, racial or religious colorings. But the reality is that ethicity in most cases trumps democracy, and while the theory that allegiance to the Constitution will suffice, we will have to see what reality does to that theory.

Aug. 21 2014 11:09 AM
BK from Hoboken

illfg- you nailed it. This is all so silly.
My wife is half "white" (mother is English/Scottish/Irish mutt), father is Turkish. Is she mixed? Is she Middle Eastern? Is she European if her dad was from the European side of Istanbul? Is she Asian (he was born in Ankara)? Who cares?! The only thing that matters is power and socioeconomic status. Why should the son of a black cardiologist get college admission preference over a poor white kid from Appalachia whoo is trying to be the first in his family to go to college? It's all money. For those who doubt, just remember the OJ trial.

Aug. 21 2014 11:08 AM
foodaggro from Brooklyn

I believe she pronounced it "LIE-AY-NOH."

Aug. 21 2014 11:06 AM
wb

@Mr. Bad, I totally agree. Her over-pronunciation of "Latino" and everything else is part of her brand. It's so pathetic... we get it! It's fun to hate white people.

Aug. 21 2014 11:01 AM

TO JGARBUZ - your 10:08 AM comment -

The late, lamented Samuel Huntington of Harvard(!) shared your concern about the future of America and it's cultural cohesion, even survival.
His last book in 2005 addressed this-

"Who Are We?: The Challenges to America's National Identity"

http://www.amazon.com/Who-Are-We-Challenges-Americas/dp/0684870541/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1408632855&sr=1-5&keywords=samuel+huntington

Aug. 21 2014 10:59 AM
Liz Adams from Central NJ

Oh dear, the BL substitute appears to have missed the point of Colbert. He claimed that the persona who claims "I don't see race" is COLBERT's assertion of white superiority! It's satire, or don't you quite get that? his persona, not Colbert, is saying this. He's satirizing people who don't see race because they're white and don't need to. Sigh. Brian often irritates me, but he rarely makes this sort of slip.

Aug. 21 2014 10:50 AM

TO - "CR from Manhattan, the "white, minority part"" -

LOL, LOL, LOL...too good.

Aug. 21 2014 10:49 AM
JR from NYC

this country is way too focused on race. how about just being a PERSON, a HUMAN BEING? or an AMERICAN?

America will always be divided until this type of mentality ceases to exist.

Aug. 21 2014 10:49 AM
fuva from harlemworld

The caller Nelly unfortunately exemplifies the liability of immigration for black people and, in turn, this country: They come here to leverage the prosperity and rights and opportunity that black people endured death and brutality for, and yet they (1) are not required to be adequately educated about American history, (2) exert negative net economic pressure on the majority of Americans, and (3) tend to 'assimilate' by jumping on the hate-black bandwagon....

Well-intentioned programs like this one, that nevertheless evade these harsh realities, prevent the true fruitful realization of American immigration.

Aug. 21 2014 10:48 AM
Linda from Florida

I was a little surprised by the wording of the spot on Morning Edition which prefaced this discussion:
"...is coming sooner than you think." This seemed to veer away from the usual neutrality that I expect from NPR.

Aug. 21 2014 10:48 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

What is "American" anyhow? By and large it once meant White Anglo-Saxon Protestant, and that group set the template for what was meant by "American." That essentially ceased to be the case in the mid-1960s. Now it only means a citizen of the United States. As the once white majority who were the unofficial template and ruling class continues to shrink, most will circle the wagons and say, "So much and no further." They will not give up their white skins and their culture. That is why I believe that by the end of the century the country will undergo a de facto partitioning, like "Palestine" but hopefully there won't be a civil war. Hopefully the partition will be peaceful and non-violent.

Aug. 21 2014 10:48 AM

@Chriss from Montclair - Latino is this hemisphere. Spanish people (only from Spain) are not latinos. It is an insult. Additionally Portugese speaking people from South America are not Latinos too.

Aug. 21 2014 10:46 AM
WB

It seems like those who don't consider themselves "white" are really enjoying "taking over". This conversation is so petty

Aug. 21 2014 10:46 AM
JR from NYC

so when you "become white", what is it exactly that you are?

Aug. 21 2014 10:45 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

I just want to say that Maria Hinojosa is a pompous blowhard. Is this a commercial for her "brand" or just an ego trip? Every other sentence seems to be about how important her work is or how well placed she is personally to give us the answers to a question nobody is asking, she admits she has to produce this junk because nobody else will!! Hint hint, maybe it's because this project is thinly veiled political advocacy for illegal immigration.

Aug. 21 2014 10:44 AM
Peg

As an American from the USA, I fill in the sections on forms that ask for my race or ethnicity with the term human. Once, a census worker came to my house and was not satisfied with my answer. He INSISTED that I had to fill it out "properly." When I continued to resist, HE filled it out "for me." Wonder what would happen if everyone refused to answer those questions?

Aug. 21 2014 10:44 AM

@ john from office - lol i fear the answer is yes.

Aug. 21 2014 10:44 AM
Charles Townsend

"Majority" as an important cultural term of power because Americans believe the "majority rules." If whites aren't the "majority" any more, will white be able to rule? That fear is what drives racist backlash to brown/black populations.

Aug. 21 2014 10:44 AM
Paul from UWS

Did Ms. Hinojosa just say "funner"?

Aug. 21 2014 10:43 AM
CR from Manhattan, the "white, minority part"

As a white male, I eagerly look forward to claiming my minority status. I look forward to enjoying the benefits of affirmative action, as well as other perks and benefits. I look forward to the law suits I will file for discrimination.

Aug. 21 2014 10:42 AM
MT

A few years ago it was established that over 85% of the British, yes, those wonderful WASPs, actually had their DNA traced to a tiny region in the north of Spain. We're all "Native" to where we live people. Get used to it.

Aug. 21 2014 10:41 AM
Chriss from Montclair

Yikes. This "conversation" on race could have been from 10/20/30+ years ago.

At some point, the "I had to choose a box" line is such a bore (race and gender classes are always troubling to some- no matter how constructed). And does "Latino" work for a Spaniard? A friend gets offended when the term is used about her.

This father of a biracial kid has no fear of this. America has changed, is changing, sometime with great difficulty (race), sometimes, comparatively, easiER, (gays). But we are working on it.

I don't fear our ability to adapt. It's what we do!

Aug. 21 2014 10:39 AM
john from office

Does this mean we will need to listen to annoying JC Penny commercials with terrible Rap music endlessly??

Aug. 21 2014 10:38 AM

there is no such thing as a latino. that's like saying "European" or "Arab" or "Asian". Spanish speaking peoples barely speak the same "spanish" and have different food and culture. Additionally, the racism against native indian "latinos" by the spanish decent latinos is just as bad as racism anywhere. Cubans are not the same as Puerto Ricans who are not the same as Dominians or Mexicans. the Latino concept was made for voting power. its a non homogeneous group

Aug. 21 2014 10:38 AM
antonio from baySide

Wow. A social construct is so powerful...

Aug. 21 2014 10:35 AM
Cynthia Herzegovitch from East Harlem- work

Can we please stop inter-changing "ethnicity" with race. My Race is white HOWEVER my ETHNICITY is GREEK. I don't relate at all to the stereotypical idea of white and all it comes with. In fact not too long ago my ETHNICITY (people)was not considered WHITE along with many other ethnicities.

Aug. 21 2014 10:33 AM
John from NYC

The guests are saying that there is a "Multi-Cultural Culture."

What is that culture? What are its values? How are those values different from "White" values?

Aug. 21 2014 10:32 AM
Mark

Mexicans and South Asians will just become Whites the same way the Irish, Italians and Jews did 100 years ago. All the people hoping that flooding America with Mexicans will turn the place into some progressive paradise with a permanent underclass of low cost maids will be disappointed. Abortion rights may be cancelled permanently though thanks to all the new Catholics, otherwise not much will change really.

Aug. 21 2014 10:28 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I hope I am wrong, but I suspect that by 2100 AD the US will have split into three countries, just as Yugoslavia split into six: A white America, a black America and a hispanic America. The UK is splitting up with Scotland apparently going its own way again. Czechoslovakia, a quite democratic country, peacefully split into the Czech and Slovak republics. My reading of history indicates that in most cases multicultural, multiethnic countries eventually split up. That ethnicity trumps democracy. Again, I hope the USA proves to be an exception, but we'll see when whites are less than 50% and the Senate and Congress also become less than 50% white. That is when the rubber will meet the road and the truth will come out. I hope the country can stay together, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Aug. 21 2014 10:08 AM

Great point, John.

Victor Davis Hanson from Stanford's Hoover Institute interviewed Mexican- Americans in California on their goals and expectations in the U.S. ... and it's a wonderful refutation of the Liberal White Boy /Identity Politics Industry party line.
They said "We didn't come here to preserve our Mexican "culture", that's WHY we emigrated - we came here to be Americans, and if California becomes another Mexico - we'll move to Oregon, and Oregon becomes like Mexico - we'll move to Canada."

LOL, only the confused, arrogant "we know better" pandering Left could politicize and impose such a bizarre motivation onto other people's interpretations of their motivations.

Aug. 21 2014 09:29 AM
John from office

News flash to those who look forward to a non-white America.

1) The concept of who is white will shift to include new groups, like it has done for 400 years;
2) Just because the majority is non-white does not mean an embracing of a Black agenda, most ethnics don't want anything to do with a "black Agenda" which equal social chaos, look at africa and sadly Furgeson;
3) All the new ethnics, arabs, real africans, hispanics, south east asians and asians want to live in a western, judeo-christian world.

So don't be too quick to play trumpets.

Aug. 21 2014 08:28 AM

Just imagine if the contrived premise of this segment was reversed … and the story was : “Whites now dominate the culture , yippee ... rah,rah,rah ... and here’s why this is good news!”

How racist would the low-information voters here label it, LOL?

And just who are these “whites” anyway? When does “multicultural” become a racial designation? Isn’t that “multiracial”? And what do you tell the many Latinos who look “white” and purposely checked the “caucasian” box on their census forms?

The Founders, many immigrants themselves, knew what they were doing when they emphasized “e pluribus unum” ... which means “out of many, one” ... as the best chance for a cohesive, equal society - no matter how hard Liberal White Boy Radio Shows try to debase that concept.

Aug. 21 2014 05:24 AM

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