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The New Middle East

Tuesday, October 01, 2013

Paul Danahar, the BBC's Middle East bureau chief (2010-2013) and the author of The New Middle East: The World After the Arab Spring, discusses his book and the current politics in the region.

→EVENT: Paul Danahar will be reading tonight at the NYU Bookstore, 726 Broadway, at 6 PM. 

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Comments [16]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

DTorres said:

> Iran defended itself, like we would do, if someone invaded us,
against Iraq's invasion of Iran.

The 8 year Iraq/Iran proves you WRONG. 1,000,000 people died. Muslims killing the wrong kind of Muslim. And they have the nerve to call it The Religion of Peace.

Iran–Iraq War 1980-1988
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

> On Ronnie Reagan's watch, The Gipper's watch, the Saddam Hussein,
helped by the CIA used Chemical Weapons against Iran, like mustard gas, etc.

On Jimmie Carter's watch, the Peanut Farmers watch, Jimmie rolled over when the ayatollahs invaded the US embassy and held the staff hostage. Jimmie could have done the same - tit for tat, but he was too feckless and incompetent and let the ayatollahs make him look like a fool. THAT is why Jimmie Carter was a One-Term President, and has the honor of being the Worst US President EVER. The Ayatollahs released the US embassy hostages as soon as Reagan was inaugurated - making Jimmie look like even more of an incompetent.

> We also told Saddam Hussein, where to strike Iran, where Iran was most
vulnerable.

Aw. The poor little Islamist Regime got a little payback from Sunnis. Like the Shiites and Sunnis would love each other. That is an age old blood feud.

> So not only, did we kick out their leader, that the Iranians elected,
and imposed a brutal dictator, the Shah of Iran, we also encouraged
a neighboring country, Iraq, to invade, attack and use chemical weapons
against Iran.

The Shah was a pussy cat compared to the ayatollahs, revolutionary guard stormtroopers, religious police, internet censoring, gay teen executing, women stoned to death over ridiculous family honor slights.

Chemical weapons? Like the ones used in Syria which killed 1,000+ Syrian men, women and children - and sanctions blocked at the UN by KGB Putins Soviet Socialist Russia?

> What business do we have looking into the log in Iran's eye,
when we have this big 2 by 4 in our eye?

I don't know what in blazes you're talking about. You can get on line for an Obamacare ophthalmologist or psychologist.

> Iran has not attacked any country in over 100 years.

Wrong again comrade.

Iran–Iraq War 1980-1988
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_War

Oct. 02 2013 12:47 AM

Iran defended itself, like we would do, if someone invaded us,
against Iraq's invasion of Iran.

On Ronnie Reagan's watch, The Gipper's watch, the Saddam Hussein,
helped by the CIA used Chemical Weapons against Iran, like mustard gas, etc.

We also told Saddam Hussein, where to strike Iran, where Iran was most
vulnerable.

So not only, did we kick out their leader, that the Iranians elected,
and imposed a brutal dictator, the Shah of Iran, we also encouraged
a neighboring country, Iraq, to invade, attack and use chemical weapons
against Iran.

What business do we have looking into the log in Iran's eye,
when we have this big 2 by 4 in our eye?

Iran has not attacked any country in over 100 years.

Oct. 01 2013 07:37 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

9/24/2007 Columbia University President Lee Bollinger Introduces Ahmadinejad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tACSopIZVdk

President Bollinger tore Ahmadinejad a new one.

Here's the transcript:
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/07/09/lcbopeningremarks.html

Iran peaceful?

Progressive Amnesia forgot the 8 year Iraq/Iran war, Islamist government executions of gay teens, bloody suppression of opposition within Islamist Iran.

Whatever the Shad ever did pales in comparison to the ayatollahs and their "revolutionary guard" - Farsi speaking stormtroopers.

Oct. 01 2013 05:22 PM

In 1953, the CIA kicked out Iran's democratically elected leader
and installed the Shah of Iran, with is CIA trained Savak Police.
Our CIA has the back of the Shah's Savak Police Force, that slaughtered,
tortured so many citizens of Iran.

Don't we owe Iran, at least an apology for that?

Why are we imposing sanctions on Iran, because they might have one
nuclear bomb or about to get one nuclear bomb, when former President
Jimmy Carter says Israel has 150 nuclear bombs and we have so many
bombs of our own?

Iran has never used Agent Orange, dropped Atomic Bombs, dropped
White Phosphorous on a defenseless population, invaded and attacked
its neighbors, used Depleted Uranium, on anybody.

Leave Iran alone, let's mind our own business and if Bibi has a problem
with Iran, then he should take care of that himself and stop trying to
drag the USA into yet another ME conflict, that is none of our business.

Aren't all the dead and wounded American Military Personnel enough,
after Bush II was pushed into attacking Iraq by the NYTIMES and the necons?

Oct. 01 2013 04:08 PM

Iran has not attacked, invaded any country in the last century.

So why is President Obama imposing sanctions on Iran,
that has had the effect of hurting the ordinary people of Iran?

Did President Obama, impose sanctions on Israel, when Israel used
White Phosphorous on the Palestinian People, during Operation Cast Lead?

Why is Iran being called on the carpet, pressured to give up its chemical
weapons, but Israel is not being pressured to disclose its nuclear and
chemical weapons?

Why the double standard?

Oct. 01 2013 03:58 PM
Sam Feldman from NYC

How did someone like Danahar, who is so informed and has common sense, become M/E bureau chief for the most anti-Israel media organization in the world: BBC? Excellent interview. Although did everyone notice how Mr. Lehrer, who doesn't take religion in America (a place he knows) seriously, does take religion seriously in M/E (a place he doesn't know)?

Oct. 01 2013 12:51 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

I wish for the Islamist Regime of Iran what it wishes for the US and Israel.

2012 IRAN CHANTS DEATH 2 AMERICA AND ISRAEL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGXeYOWEvjI

The Islamist Regime is trying to trick their Mahdi, who they believe is hiding in a well, to pop up and lead the Islamist Regime to victory over their enemies:

- Sunnis
- Jews
- Christians AKA Crusaders
- Hindus
- Buddhists
- Bahais
- Athiests
- Women who bring dishonor to their family
- Apostates
- Wrong kind of Muslim - Sufis, Saudis, Kurds...

The ayatollahs LIE when they smile.

Oct. 01 2013 12:30 PM
PHILIOR from Brooklyn

Brian, talking about Israel in Judea you said "... and we don't like them there", which raises a bunch of questions:
1. Who are "WE"?
2. Don't like "them" is presumably Israelis. Then, why?
3. Where is "there". If you don't like Jews beyond Israeli borders, you promote judenrein. If you don't like Israelis there, they don't like it either, but Jordan refused to take back this territory after 1967. Likewise, Egypt doesn't want back its Gaza.

Oct. 01 2013 11:30 AM
Laila from New York

So Mr. Danahar thinks Iran had a "crazy" spokesperson all these years and that's why we had no relations. This is so simplistic. Ahmadinejad was not "crazy" but he did rub some people the wrong way, all the while playing to his local audience back home. Like so much in our foreign policy, the reason we had no relations all these years is that our "friend and ally" in the M.E. did not want us to engage with Iran. So we used the events of 1979 as a pretext, usually forgetting 1953, which was the start of our disagreements. So much can be achieved through diplomacy and engagement and shutting out any country is never in the interest of America.

Oct. 01 2013 11:19 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The solution ot the Israel-Palestine problem is to recognize that Jordan is eastern Palestine, and that it will be the future Palestinian state. As for the West Bank (Judah and Samaria), that will be split between the Jews and the Palestinian Arabs. There can be no independent Palestinian Arab state in the West Bank, and we should stop trying to cram a square peg into a round hole.

Oct. 01 2013 11:12 AM
RJ from prospect hts

Please discuss the US interest in the Mideast dating from when the US used the dictatorships there--esp Syria and Egypt--for extraordinary rendition tortures.

Oct. 01 2013 11:09 AM
Ed from Larchmont

The struggle between Protestant and Catholic was a genuine theological disagreement, and so is the Sunni-Shiite struggle, but politics and money came into play also.

Oct. 01 2013 11:07 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Why shouldn't people understand Sunni-Shia schism? It's no different than the old Catholic-Protestant struggle, that kept on going in Northern Ireland. However ,it mask ethnic differences as well. Irish Celtic catholics versus Scottish and English protestants who were seen as occupying Catholic Irish soil.

Oct. 01 2013 11:07 AM
Elaine from Baltimore

"The Arab Spring" was a media spin based on a Western paradigm idea of a budding democracy. It should have been called Arab revolutions, we have no idea what "season" they are in.

Oct. 01 2013 11:03 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The "West" did not fully democratize until after WWII. Nor did Japan. It took force to democratize Germany and Japan. Latin America did not democratize until the 1990s, and is still not fully democratized yet. Africa is in the process of democratization, but we have the Islamic groups in those countries acting up.

In Iraq we have a full blow Sunni - Shia terror war going on. All these daily explosions in Iraq are the Sunnis striking at what they see is Iranian Shia predominance in Iraq today. The war in Iraq is not over by a long shot, but just our participation in it.
And of course, then there is Syria.

Oct. 01 2013 11:02 AM
Ed from Larchmont

Three weeks ago Pope Francis had a worldwide day of Adoration and prayer, and then was the off-hand offer by Secretary Kerry and now the president speaking with Iran ... sounds like it's bearing fruit.

Oct. 01 2013 10:59 AM

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