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Pete Donohue, transportation reporter for The New York Daily News, provides the latest updates on the talks between the MTA and the LIRR unions, with the threat of a strike as early as July 20.
LIRR and Metro North make way more money then city transit workers. But every time it's contract time it's always "oh u guys get paid very well". Not compared to the big brothers. Not hating on them. They earned everything they get. Keep the fight going and shake Mta for all they have.
"sold down the river' --talk about inflammatory language Brian!
When workers point to union workers' pensions--private or public--and say "but I don't have that" I say "They organized--you can too." They got power in their numbers to negotiate in ways that an individual--however talented (and we have this illusion around that one can be so ultratalented that we can individually bargain better than as a group)--we are. Form your own union! It's not easy! But neither is living with mediocre benefits and in conflict/competition with your coworkers. The decisions made on your benefits vs. your coworkers are not necessarily made on merit--you know that. No, union representation is not perfect--nothing is. But it gives you OPTIONS, collective strength, that you don't have otherwise. You have more in common with fellow employees than you do with your boss.
Wow- should we choose between the top-heavy wasteful MTA or the out of touch corrupt union where 2/3 of its employees somehow are disabled when they retire and claim benefits? That old NY Times Magazine piece on the retirement fraud within LIRR was one of the most egregious examples of union overreach. A healthy worker retiring at age 50 bit them miraculously has a minor back pain and gets a lifelong payout? Like I said- I am not a fan of either side if this fight.
Those salaries numbers do not include the huge benefits packages. That is dishonest because it hides almost 40% of the costs.
BASE $65,000 !!!!!!
AVERAGE salary is $85,000 !!!!!!! AVERAGE ??????????
What is the highest salary ???????????
This program has become so lopsided and agenda driven in the way subjects are presented it is becoming un-listenable. I know the angle and answers just from the headline before the first words are spoken. That is just sad.
There ARE big concepts in the LIRR negotiation. Having fewer benefits for new workers creates a 2-tier system, creates resentment and competition and divides the workforce. Workers who are doing the same work deserve the same benefits. Period.
I read all the newspapers this morning.
NOBODY WILL TELL US HOW MUCH THESE WORKERS MAKE.
Retire at 50 ?????????????????????????????????????
Give me a break.
How much more can they expect people to pay to ride these trains. It already is more costly than just driving in. Now multiply that if you try to bring a family in. Just shut it down and reset the whole thing in bankruptcy, it is simply unaffordable. Let the reapply for their jobs if they cant find better elsewhere. Add in all the incredible corruption that has been going on there and I think we are all just fed up with the whole lot.
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