This episode is from the WNYC archives. It may contain language which is no longer politically or socially appropriate.
Interview with John Cashmore, Democratic candidate for U.S. Senator from New York in 1952. Members of student newspapers around New York City question Cashmore about his campaign, his opinions are current events and his history as borough president of Brooklyn.
Audio courtesy of the NYC Municipal Archives WNYC Collection
WNYC archives id: 69110
Municipal archives id: LT315
This is a machine-generated transcript. Text is unformatted and may contain errors.
Do you think the war in Korea can be ended soon what do you think of General Eisenhower suggestion for ending that war or transcribe discussion of these and other issues this is Gabriel Pressman bringing you the W one Lycee campus press conference throughout the month of October the editors of college newspapers in New York have been interviewing the candidates for United States senator our guest today is John Cashmore candidate of the Democratic Party here to interview Mr Cashmore object Freeman of the Fordham Rahm Misto Siegel of the Brooklyn College Kingsmen Irwin Chaffin of the Washington Square college bulletin that New York University and Martin DOJ of the City College of observation post All right panel members are you ready with the first question. Mr Deutsch Mr Cashmore here in the closing days of the campaign who do you think is going to win the presidential race Mr Stevenson Mr Eisenhower well before I answer that question Mr Di childlike to say I'm happy to be here for many many reasons vice today is a big chapter in the life of the Cashmore family we only have one child and he's twenty one years of age today and he's a senior and Williams College and he's also the newspaper editor of the college newspaper when he was town Massachusetts and his training before that was he was the editor in chief of a polygon Now maybe you never heard of the polygon of the polygon is the official newspaper of poly pipe Country Day School so he's already had seven and a half years of training so I'm very very grateful for being here and I want appropriate but you'd be meeting with the college editors on which the birthday Well I believe that it's a very important thing and I'm grateful to see so many young girls and boys taking an active interest in a part of our government and also to get out the vote and I think that greatly responsible for getting out the vote throughout the United States it's people such as you that have gathered here today that make me say that I'm not a can't be great one day and small the next I may have college students actually feel and what was your first question I know I just like to know your opinion on how the presidential race is going to come out well on the presidential race naturally you may feel that I'm a little bit biased and I've covered the State of New York and the way President Truman from Buffalo to New York and just on Saturday morning I failed to finish the trip with seventeen Wessels stops West I've made statements and whom I would really and truthfully believe will be the next president of the United States and I was Stevenson is a man who has met all the issues. Very strongly I mean the major issues he met she's met them strongly he's not them forcibly and he spoke in the same way in the South as he would in the East or in the north he hasn't had any hasn't picked out squat where would just be a favorite and this site an area on the other hand it take a man like generalize and however I honestly can't say this I like general like I like him very well I think he's a great military man I know him personally but I if I were to ask you what would be the greatest general to send then I would say generalize and I if I want to Minutemen a state or I certainly would say I'd leave Stevenson how he's met days where the great deal of courage I mean Stephenson and he's talked of all the issues the important issues Social Security the Macallan immigration off the veterans' benefits he's confident throughout the state and when you see the faces of these people as we have left in the train as pointed out you can see the enthusiasm you can see the older people in the groups thinking of Social Security and that's my honest opinion why this popular vote may be very close when you take the electoral college I'm positive that I'd leave Stevenson is going to be the next president of the United States you just you've just got in that feeling a lot of where you've gone definitely in the state and I say well of supposing we throw that question of who's for home right back at the panel how do you pull any of us do those that you're at your colleges and the only that it is here well that Mr Freeman afford him what are the things up there on Rose Hill where our political clubs are just out of the call of the student so is the college of Eisenhower wanted to run although several of the faculty members so expressed disapproval and written letters that are no service of one Stevens. To the college newspapers is that they go to the metropolitan newspaper I say they express disapproval of this to the state or how is it over there at City College at the idea or hand of Mr village while it's a college in a post taken by the observation post Mr Stevenson came out a strong five to one. They Well there's certainly quite a difference of opinion between Fordham and City College list Jack and you want to get back to the general issues of the campaign yes I think we're going to spend the bulk of this program talking about the national issues but before we do I want to ask us to cast more about his role in the campaign here in New York there was quite some controversy surrounding his nomination let me ask you first I see Cashmore one of the your party believes that you are the best qualified to represent the state of New York over your two major opponents we've heard politics ever since Lincoln died that's an old expression Now let's take a look at the record is out for the smith would say I was born in Brooklyn I received a normal school education and I received three years of night college and I studied cooperation law business management and finance when I finished the outbreak of World War one I went in the infantry as a volunteer and when I came out I lived in a neighborhood I did never elected a Democratic assemblyman a senator or a congressman but I love public service in one nine hundred twenty two I received the nomination to be elected to be the candidate on the Democratic ticket for the assembly didn't have much chance according to all the figures all the rules all the regulations but luck does play a part and everyone's life nineteen twenty two was the out for the Smith landslide and I became involved in the end for the Alfred E. Smith landslide and on election night I found I was elected to the New York state legislature and serving with that great governor Alfred E. Smith thats when we started to work on the all age pension and the widow's pension and that was really the start of Social Security from there I went on and I said I have twelve years in the old one of all women. When that board was abolished and very few people in the city of New York know how was the old board of aldermen abolished it was abolished by on a voting machine SHALL the city of New York have a new city charter referendum and that was a referendum and the people voted overwhelmingly for it that was about thirty two hundred pages and that bill very few had ever read it and wanted passed I found out that the oldest legislative body in the United States was abolished and in its place was the new city council. I was elected they faced a vice chairman and the majority leader I'm the man who wrote the rules and the regulations that govern not binding today and then in one thousand nine hundred forty Raymond being a solid Republican the present abruption passed away and the council nominated me for the balance of that year to succeed very many minutes all under the law one hundred forty one I ran as a Democratic representative and I've been a bar present ever since I was being the president a Brockton and not only the president but you're one of the eight men that run the city of New York we have three million people in Brooklyn we have the greatest waterfront in the United States do you realize that during World War two almost sixty seven percent of all let me nations that were shipped. We ship from the Brooklyn Piers what are some of the specific things Mr Cashmore that your work as borough president has given you put you for. A job in Washington well enough isolation have to know the desires and the wants of three million people when you represent the state of New York is more than JUST WANT TO two issues it's knowing your people you're not voting for cooperations you're voting for and you're representing fifteen million people in this state as the head of three million people with twelve years of experience I'm also helping to run a city that has eight million people and you have two out of the sixteen votes I believe that's enough qualification for any man show me any man in the United States Senate who has a better background or I've had more experience with handling people than the president to borrow a book on the single what is the essential difference in platform between you and me. When you elect a man as the president of the United States and I have say for thirty years holding public office you never liked the man and then your ties hands by giving him an opposition legislature I'm an intense Democrat I'm running on the Democratic platform I was adopted at the Chicago convention that is my plan that is my policy to support the president of the United States and not least even someone who's elected one may need a man like Herbert Lehman who is the junior member. Representing the state of New York after being the fourth time governor if I'm elected be United States Senate Lehmann will not be the junior governor he will be the senior governor of Michigan and in a gutter senator senior senator and I will be the junior senator and layman and I am known one of the governor at least I've always referred to him a governor a layman Senator Lieberman and I have worked together for almost twenty years. I mean when I was my ideas you know is my willingness to work and that's one of the reasons I like to go to the United States Senate Mr Deutsch to do a question for us what are your views Mr Cashmore on such controversial measures as the McCarran and have fought Ribeiro was causing we break that up and start with the McCarren Act as if you mentioned on first well a mechanic now our national R I stand squarely what sounded a layman for its repeal I believe that the McConnell R. is discriminatory in its restrictive I favor the company's name and value which not only avoids evils of the restrictive McCown ballot but would permit one of the emigrants to come to this country and keep family units together I see Mr Chapman Well it seems that the Democratic platform is going on the road not just with Stevenson but with Mr Truman and he has made himself the center of controversy by his slugging attacks on Eisenhower and I do you think that these attacks are going to make friends or lose friends in the Democratic Party and be handed a I think it's one of the greatest things that this country has ever experienced to see a man who is not going to succeed himself giving up his life. And I now want to take sound of any human being to make a campaign for six eight weeks and all he would have to do would be to sit in these office and the White House I'm not the fellow who's nominated by the Democratic Party to the white but when you take Harry S. Truman the president of United States not going to succeed him self but to want to make sure that the policies adopted and the great advancement that we've made since one thousand nine hundred eighty two are really carried out and you can understand and I think he has made and you also must realize no man has ever drawn greater crowds and these were full stops are in his presence in any one of the large cities than having instruments where you're referring we were discussing the McCarren Act we refer it was the champion domestic It was attack on generalizing hard for supporting a certain sort of this represents right generalizing are given a support to such as Senator. Santorum candidate Rev a common Senator McCarthy in general the rest of them was a part of the act while Governor Stevenson just the other day went back on Saturday McCarran himself and practically led him out of the fight but the question on Truman is not that. It's good to see him on the stand but it's his strong attacks on Eisenhower practically imputing to him. The motives of those he supports are these attacks too strong so strong that they're going to the vote Well I think what what Mr Chapman is driving at is from a practical political viewpoint you think it's going to help Stevenson or you think it's going to hinder him all it definitely has helped Stevenson and every way possible because in the first place President Truman has been the invariants God I'm brought forth the issue and I have to bring forth the issue then you can see both Governor Stevenson and you can say generalize now and then the baiting the subject that Truman was able to bring forth. Mr Brennan getting back to this McCarron now it seems a bit of attack was passed by a Democratic Congress written by a Democratic senator passed by the Congress how would the rest of the states and another Democratic Congress how that would be sure that they will actually change it. Well now you take enough nice place Rule twenty two when I should speak about Rule twenty two that's the filibuster in the Senate and the Senate now if you've got enough men and the United States Senate who are willing to a man abolish Rule twenty two then you're going to kind of open and fair discussion or you take this McCarron act take just anyone nationality take the kind of a nationality for Americans other kind of mixed actions they want to get the people to come here that don't favor the northern part of human Europe just picture it this way sixty five thousand. Anguished people I've allowed to come to the United States now they have no desire to come they don't want to come on the other hand if late as a country that's all the populated they can only have fifty five to fifty six hundred in any one year not the English don't use that quota of sixty five thousand it could be trained it should be transferred over to England I lay on the other company countries but it's not transferable and here this great nation of ours has been built up and founded by immigrants the whole country I'm the son of an immigrant when you figure that out hope both are your highway zero it's your billings who's added to the culture we're all immigrants Monash and you've stopped all that. Until today I looked into the future of the whole world everyone's got their eyes on the United States you realize just some of these countries it will be two thousand and sixty seven before anyone of that people could ever come in for the United States that's your question Mr Freeman Well no I would agree with Mr Cashmore that probably not is a bad thing but the question I had grazed is why is the Democrats reverse themselves a secret whether it is possible to have a take a look at that piling up million out o