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Iran and the United Nations

Wednesday, September 25, 2013

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani addresses the U.N. General Assembly on September 24, 2013 in New York City (Getty Images/Getty)

Both President Obama and Iranian President Rouhani spoke of seeking peace in their addresses to the U.N. General Assembly yesterday. Farnaz Fassihi, senior staff writer for The Wall Street Journal covering the Middle East, and Robin Wright, joint fellow at the U.S. Institute of Peace and the Woodrow Wilson International Center, former diplomatic correspondent for The Washington Post and the author of Rock the Casbah: Rage and Rebellion Across the Islamic World (Simon & Schuster, 2011), update the diplomatic situation with Iran

Guests:

Farnaz Fassihi and Robin Wright

Comments [8]

Mr. Bad from NYC

@ Edward from blah blah blah

I'm afraid you missed the point. Your ideas are so facile and doctrinaire that you can (as I did) copy and paste them and to make the same or similar points with different countries, including your US and Israeli paymasters. Oh, and Israel's implicit threat to wipe out the whole middle east with it's massive nuclear weapon stockpile is a far more legitimate threat than some Republican Army hothead's raving. The fact that you actually took the time to point out that neither the US or USSR "owns" Cuba is hilarious. Thanks for the clarification though, you're a scholar and a gentleman.

Sep. 26 2013 09:37 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Comrade Mr. Bad from NYC said:

> If the self proclaimed democratic Republic of Israel's secret nuclear program is peaceful, why are its nuclear weapons undeclared and why hasn't it signed the NPT?

Israel has not signed the NPT, just as the Islamic Republic of Pakistan and India have not.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan and India almost had a nuclear war - a dispute over ownership of Kashmir. Sound a bit familar?

The Islamic Republic of Iran DID sign the NPT and has obligations to be faithful to its statutes.

> Hardly the actions of an open and peaceful program.

Israels nuclear program is NOT open and declared.

Israel has NEVER threatened to wipe any country off the map, as the Islamofascist Republic of Iran repeatedly does threatening the US and Israel with Death.

Recent example:
Iran’s Military Shows Off Missiles Promising ‘Death to America’
http://freebeacon.com/irans-military-shows-off-missiles-promising-death-to-america/

> Add to that its allies have nuclear weapons and almost had a nuclear war with each other - a dispute over ownership of a bit of land called Cuba.

Neither the USSR or USA own Cuba. Cuba is owned by the Castro family dictatorship - which is in its 54th year. Reins passed on by Fidel to his brother Raul because no one else in the Workers Paradise can be trusted to rule. Gotta be a Castro.

> Bottom line is the Israeli's LIE - AKA Nehtanyahu.

LOL! Bottom line is FAKE "anti-war", regressive "progressives", neo-commies LIE - AKA KGB Putin.

Sep. 25 2013 12:44 PM
Mr. Bad from NYC

f the self proclaimed democratic Republic of Israel's secret nuclear program is peaceful, why are its nuclear weapons undeclared and why hasn't it signed the NPT?

Hardly the actions of an open and peaceful program.

Add to that its allies have nuclear weapons and almost had a nuclear war with each other - a dispute over ownership of a bit of land called Cuba.

Bottom line is the Israeli's LIE - AKA Nehtanyahu.

Sep. 25 2013 12:05 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

If the self proclaimed Islamic Republic of Iran nuclear program is peaceful, why are its nuclear processing labs and factories spread across the country buried deep underground?

Hardly the actions of an open and peaceful program.

http://world.time.com/2012/04/10/iran-nuclear-talks-can-islam-guide-the-way-to-peace/

"Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who wields nearly absolute power in Iran, has been saying for years that nuclear arms are “sinful” and thus off-limits for the Islamic Republic"

Yet its fellow Islamic Republic of Pakistan has nuclear weapons and almost had a nuclear war with India - a dispute over ownership of a bit of land named Kashmir.

Bottom line is the ayatollahs LIE - AKA Taqiyya.

Sep. 25 2013 11:54 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ castb

It's true, why should Iran forego its nuclear program? Like it or not Putin is right, the only regime to forego their nuclear program (Libya) was overthrown by a NATO led coup. Qaddafi deserved what he got, no doubt, but it was bad precedent for non proliferation diplomacy. Iran probably wants to have the capability to build, but not actually build, a nuke. We shouldn't conflate our global strategic aims with Israel's regional security needs.

Sep. 25 2013 11:53 AM
castb

This debate is remarkably one-sided. The U.S. claims an absolute right to attack non-nuclear states with nuclear weapon. Israel makes the same claim implicitly, since Israel won't even acknowledge the possession of a large nuclear arsenal.

Even assuming the Iranians want a bomb -- which is far from proven -- to deter rogue countries from attacking their own non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons, who could blame them?

Sep. 25 2013 11:40 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Sorry, in my prior post I meant that if everyone AGREES about something, it is the duty of the tenth man to disagree with everyone else.

Sep. 25 2013 11:13 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

I recently saw a recent horror movie called "World War Z" where Brad Pitt is trying to find a cure for a virus that is turning people into vicious zombies who are overrunning the world. He hears that the Israelis had somehow found out about the threat early on, and had put up walls to try to keep the zombies out. He asks the head of the Mossad how Israel had learned early on and made preparations. The Mossad chief tells Brad Pitt about an Israeli doctrine called "The Tenth Man." If everyone disagrees about something, it is the duty of the tenth man to disagree with the unanimity and plan for the opposite. He had heard intercepted radio messages where Indian troops were fighting zombies, but everyone else had assumed that it was a only a code word for something else and not taking it literally. But he acted on the assumption that "zombies" literally meant zombies, and prepared accordingly.

Benjamin Netanyahu is the "tenth man." While so many are prepared to drop their guard in the hope that Rouhani represents a true change of heart and policy in Teheran, Bibi is not. He is not going to let hope cloud his judgement. If Rouhani is for real, we'll know about it only by subsequent Iranian actions, not by sweet words.

Sep. 25 2013 11:11 AM

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