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Inside NYPD's Counterterrorism Unit

Tuesday, September 17, 2013

After winning the Pulitzer Prize for Investigative Journalism for their reporting on the NYPD's surveillance of Muslims after the attacks of 9/11, Adam Goldman and Matt Apuzzo stop by to discuss counter-terrorism efforts that work, and those they find to be counter-productive. Both are AP investigators and authors of the new book Enemies Within: Inside the NYPD's Secret Spying Unit and bin Laden's Final Plot Against America.

Comments [19]

Mr. Lehrer rarely evinces more preparation than a reading of his producers' summaries of that day's N.Y. Times and the prior day's MSNBC coverage.

Sep. 19 2013 01:56 PM
Russell Smith from Inwood, NYC

I am puzzled that Brian Lehrer allowed the authors of "Enemies Within",
to pass along revisionist history on the 2009 Zazi terror case with nary
a whisper of challenge to their wrong-headed version of events, that is
dismissive of the role played by the NYPD in the apprehension of Al Queda
trained terrorists. Even though Apuzzo & Goldman set out a misleading
& distorted account of the takedown of the Zazi crew, host Lehrer did
not bring up the the words of President Obama that contradicted Apuzzo &
Goldman. POTUS, in fact, journeyed to NYC on 10/20/09 to hail the cooperation
of the NYPD & the FBI in ending Zazi's threat to bomb NYC targets. On that visit
POTUS saluted NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly, along with then FBI Director
Robert Mueller & the men & women of the Joint Terrorism Task Force when
he remarked,"The record of your service is written in the attacks that never
occur--because you thwarted them." The usually assiduous host overlooked
a major dissenting opinion regarding an unsupported conclusion by these guests.

Sep. 18 2013 09:22 PM
DTorres from Manhattan

19 Muslims hijackers, attacked us on 9/11.
I still remember, existing my place of business, to see the burning WTC towers. The horror I felt on that day, at that sight, has not diminished.
Faisal Shahzad, born in Pakistan, wanted to blow up his vehicle in
Times Square and was thwarted by a street vendor and the quick work of the
NYPD.
Adis Medunjanin, Muslim, convicted of wanting to strap on a bomb a blow up
the NYC subway system.

The one that got caught, because the NSA was on the job.

I would think that the NYPD and all our Law Enforcement Officials,
the FBI, CIA, would keep a close watch on all Muslims in this country.

Kudos to the NYPD and Police Commissioner, Mayor Michael Bloomberg,
for not taking their eye off the Muslims.

Not all Muslims, want to blow us up, but 19 already have and there
are still people dying from the effects of the poison they breathed in on
that day, from cancers etc.

It's ridiculous for these writers to find fault with the NYPD or
Ray Kelly, for keeping us safe.

Sep. 17 2013 05:08 PM
JT from Nyc

Lenore from Manhattan

Of course torture is illegal. However fair minded people can & do disagree on the definition of torture & what acts of enhancing interrogation crosses over to a form of torture that is against either local, U.S. or International laws!
I for one make a clear distinction between torture in an American Criminal Justice setting for violations of criminal laws as alleged byAmerican citizens & those here legally & enhanced interrogation techniques in a war on terror that was started by people who cut off the heads of Americans & other innocent people & film it for the world to see & dunking heads in water & simulating drowning to gain information where other areas of information gathering via hard info gained by people placed appropriately in order to gain intelligence is so very difficult to come by. Obtaining info & intell is crucial in these endeavors. Te lack of it, along with inadequate understanding of it, can have dire & deadly results, as we have come to see far too often!

Sep. 17 2013 04:29 PM
Ed from Larchmont

I don't see why people can't sit in a mosque and listen.

Sep. 17 2013 12:11 PM
Jessie Henshaw from Way Uptown

That guy who said why the art kieeps moving had to do with "integrity" was just using the wrong word... it's "originality", the art world follows that path of originality, set by the artist themselves, like fire following a trail of fuel.

The buyers of NEW art don't hang around the neighborhoods full of the art they already bought, the look for the fringe, always moving to where the fringe artists can get it together.

It's amazing something that obvious would go unnoticed, but it's a fact that natures systems are often highly invisible to minds looking for something other than what's there. That's the deep struggle as well for a sketch artist, learning how to see what you're "looking at", as we mostly "see" what we are "looking FOR"!

Sep. 17 2013 12:07 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Anybody who "Liked" the Facebook pages of the Boston Marathon bomber Tsarnaev brothers should be investigated too.

Even Russia warned the US about the Chechen Tsarnaev brothers.

Sep. 17 2013 11:33 AM
adrienne from UWS

On every Rosh ha Shanna and Yom Kippur, my synagogue has protection at the door. Also we used to have Simchas Torah (a holiday that includes dancing with the Torah) outside until some years ago the police told us it was too dangerous.

I don't believe anyone should be spied on in their house of worship but we all pay the price for what has gone on in the city. I believe that most Muslim citizens are good people wanting to make a life here, but the Muslim World is a very different story, It would be completely foolish to say anything else.

Oscar from NY: That's a really ugly and hateful characterization of Jews.

Sep. 17 2013 11:31 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Oscar from Ny,

Hows your spittle stained copy of mein kampf?

Sep. 17 2013 11:27 AM
Lenore from Manhattan

Why does the guest think that torture is not illegal? Just because no one ever was held accountable in court doesn't mean that it's not illegal.

Torture is illegal, by international law and even by US law.

Sep. 17 2013 11:20 AM
James from Brooklyn

The spying on peaceful activists based on things they link to on the internet is one of the more chilling and disturbing things that this book reveals.

Sep. 17 2013 11:17 AM
Bobby G from East Village

This situation with the NYPD and the NYC Muslim community points to the shifting forces in the tension between the values of our Founding Documents and the reality of computerized data -- its gathering and use.

Sep. 17 2013 11:16 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

The FBI infiltrated places where KKK people congregated. The FBI infiltrated places where pro-communist Jews congregated even if they were not agents of the Soviet Union. It's only natural

Sep. 17 2013 11:14 AM
Oscar from Ny

I can't stand some of these powerful Jews in ny and how they spin everything around as if they were the authority if the land and even if they take that they will find that nobody likes ugly, god dont like ugly no matter who or where you come from, these ppl need to accept we're and who their with and stop getting or imposing their selves..

Sep. 17 2013 11:11 AM
Melissa

Why is it legal for agencies like the FBI and the CIA not to share information with the NYPD regarding potential acts of violence?

Sep. 17 2013 11:10 AM
Jessie Henshaw from Way Uptown

Brian,
But... whether the information collected is the best of all possible kinds, isn't this approach to "where the threat is" also much the same approach needed to tell "where the threat is not"?

Sep. 17 2013 11:05 AM
pliny from soho

The leader of al-Qaeda has issued a message marking the 12th anniversary of the 11 September 2001 attacks.
"These dispersed strikes can be carried out by one brother, or a small number of brothers."
Keeping America in a state of tension and anticipation does not cost us anything but [organising] dispersed strikes here and there. In other words, just as we defeated it in a war of nerves in Somalia, Yemen, Iraq and Afghanistan, we must afflict it with a similar war in its own home.

Sep. 17 2013 11:04 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

It's the Muslim world that has been MOSTLY hostile to America, partially because of its support of the existence of a Jewish state, and since some Muslims who come here have been involved in terrorist attacks, it is only natural that these communities have to be observed more closely until there is a better relationship with the Muslim world. After the Russian revolution the FBI watched pro-communist Jews quite closely, even if they weren't working for the Soviet Union. We incarcerated Japanese-Americans during WWII. The police no longer watch Japanese Americans anymore, nor leftist Jews anymore, and won't pay any attention to Muslims either once relations between the US and the Muslim world improves whether it supports Israel or not.

Sep. 17 2013 11:02 AM
Jay F.

And the point of this segment is?

Sep. 17 2013 10:55 AM

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