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Senator Hiram Bingham describes in some detail the 'discovery' Machu Picchu in 1911.
The second speaker is journalist and author Emily Kimbrough, she discusses a recent book.
Audio courtesy of the NYC Municipal Archives WNYC Collection
WNYC archives id: 71179
Municipal archives id: LT3180
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These were some of the things that I gradually got to know. So I wanted to find out where the flash capital of the last anchors really words as we stood there took care of ten thousand feet above the upper imac we looked away to the north and east and there we saw a range of snow capped mountains but nobody could tell us anything about I've always been fond of Kipling's poem explore something lost behind the range. Something you had grown find something waiting for its goat. So the next year I organized the expedition known as a Peruvian expedition and like the eleventh we went to try and climb the highest mountain in the road which we succeeded don't we went to try and find the capital of the last anchors all we knew about it was the ridge was near a temple which contains a great quite rough over spring of water and after weeks of of hunting and and paying bonuses to many Indians we finally found an Indian that knew about a great white rock over spring or what a rock almost big enough to fill this room with wonderful carving done and it was over spring of water and the area around top of a hill but under rough pallets that had been built at the time of the Spanish conquest by the last anchor who fled away from Costco after bazaar took possession of Costco and there he left until he was killed by some Spanish ready G.'s and it killed over a game of boat on our way down here Obama valley looking for the class capital we are for the Indians prizes to be graduated in accordance with the importance of the discovery of any ruins of they could show us and one day an Indian came into camp and he said that there were ruins out there and he pointed up to the top of a precipice two thousand five hundred feet above well I had to compare it with. One was a naturalist it was his business to collect butterflies and lot I mean a bit of the day and this but shown him the other one was the surgeon of the expedition a classmate of mine it was there to go around to keep us as well as possible I said well let's go up and see these ruins and they looked up and the doctor said I haven't had a chance to mend my stockings or washed my clothes I think that's good work here in the red I'll do that today and then actually said you know there are lots of butterflies and note down here I'd like to butterflies on the ramp and I'm sure I can find new butterflies here so it was up to me as the one who was DOES IT WAS THE HUNT FOR encouraged to go with a guide and we scrambled up using our thing a nail part of the time over the tiny little path that the mountain Indians to mountain Indians lived on top of the ridge had developed in order to get up to the little tiny plantation and God that they had built a dug in and among some of the ruins after had very hard climb was finally got it we got up to the Indian exactly looked about Sean I was disappointed I thought well so was Nick tell you about something that is interesting and it isn't there it isn't so you hear stories of branches and it turns out to be they just wanted to please you as people so often do in the orient and in South America so I tried to make them sweet potato and drank some water and reckoned that thought well I really ought to look a little further and there was a little boy there was a show us the room and so we went around the corner and presently we saw some interesting characters. Well that wasn't very much and then we went further and we came to a great forest a jungle of Paris three hundred years old and under the tree. For granite hours and it was unbelievable. We could only see if you were. But we did see one that had three great windows and three large windows that wide that high. And we knew that the first encounter who rode in Costco and was the first great thinker to really start conquering most of South America as a because eventually there had built at the place of his birth a Makes no war with free wood. Nearby or the other beautiful palace modest onward made out selected quite granite fitted to gather wood actually care I only saw you I said by engineers like to make a map of it because the first thing that an archaeologist must do is to make a map and take photographs I expected that the engineers would be able to finish their wood in two or three days but they found so many things under the trees it took them six weeks and when they came back it took the engineer two months to make the map of magic but. As soon as they prefer says it the else saw the map they said well you must go back and uncover and cut the trees down and they get up and find it because this is a remarkable sculpture so thanks to the National Geographic Society the following year we went back and with the aid of a run rate given by the great editors Hartness who was the patron saint of gala so many educational students we spent five months with for the workman provided for us by the Peruvian government in uncovering the ruins. Then it spent some years in trying to find out what it was all about and eventually my time is running out so I can't tell you any more of the story today except that eventually we were able to prove that this was the place where the Incas developed at the end of a long period of the Dark Ages after thousands of years of the development of these tech tools wonderful Patrick of the animals and plants they were conquered by some wild savages that came up from Patagonia they took refuge in the most inaccessible part of the Andes here around like a picture there after five hundred years was developed a tribe known as the Incas they went out and they can recapture the old capital of Costco and then they built their palace of the tree well as the Temple of the tree when three hundred years later when the Spaniards came and conquered the rules the angles played into this region and there they set up their religious and social capital there it took with them the pieces of the temple the sun and Costco known as the burdens of the sun there they led the Spaniards never knew where they would disband no spanker ever saw the sets. It was in such an inaccessible place that the Pearl INS themselves had forgotten all about modern Indians to be shown one or two of them knew about it but it was not until we are on cover that in one thousand and twelve and with the pictures and the article in The National Geographic Society brought people to attention to it and now people are going their act as often as they can heard is one of the most wonderful sites in the worst it used to take nearly a month to get up in New York but now thanks David Haitians you can leave me off tomorrow morning by airplane and be in Peru the next day and have breakfast in early you can really mother next day by airplane and fly across the mountains into the Costco the Great into capital there you can take a little train and in two hours you can be down the valley at the foot of much a feature and you can get an automobile there and go up the no road. You can breakfast in Lima it can be at much a feature by little in other words inside of seven or eight days you can go from New York and see the great ruins of much of the comeback I hope you will go but don't go in our winter because although that is a southern hemisphere it is a relative go in June July August when there is fun there after the rains and where you can enjoy or one of the greatest sights in the world today thank you very much feel good. In spite of how proclivity for misadventure no disaster after even the most unusual silence and that's the only sort of a disaster that it can. And Miss Kimberly has prevented her coming today it remains to hope that the lectern before which. Does not collapse when she leans upon it and picture headlong into the debris as it once happened and now inevitably it gives me great pleasure. Thank you very much. It gives me very great pleasure to be here to talk to you today in fact I feel very grateful to you for allowing me to come because it is in great measure restoring my self confidence since not so long ago I returned from a lecture tour and went to visit my twin daughters at school after the first few moments of happy reunion I was aware of an overhanging cloud of apprehension which I hastened I sought to dispel I told them that I had already seen the heads of the school and had the report that both their classic standing and their conduct were. Adequate. And since that exceeded our fondest anticipation. I felt there was no cause for worry to my astonishment I found however that they had this reassurance did not dispel the cloud and so I asked outright the cause of it there was a moment some comfortable silence and then one of the twins sidled close to whisper in a hoarse anguish Oh mother it's only their promises even if they should ask you you won't speak here. But you have asked me and I am speaking here and I'm deeply grateful. I'm also grateful to you for allowing me this opportunity. To attend to her the dull taking in courageous made of me since the publication of the book first so why these untoward incident seem to happen to me and second could they possibly be true. Actually I really don't know why the ignominious and they toward incidents does happen to me perhaps with greater frequency than to most I I can only not explain it but perhaps draw a parallel in the fact that there are some people who have an extraordinary faculty for finding four leaf clovers I never in my life of found a four leaf clover. But those who do assure me that they never go out to look for them they separate the four leaf clovers are they are. I never go out to look for the untoward incident either I feel that the four leaf clover must come more than half way to meet those particularly. Gifted people and I feel that they aren't horrid incident comes more than half way to me and that my gift lies in simply being receptive to they answer that. I think perhaps there may be further parallel in an episode which occurred in my brother's family last Christmas on the lecture tour in the fall I happened in a college town to read an advertisement in the college newspaper of a toy. It was a toy described as a miniature fleet on a make believe see the both operated by means of a magnet I thought it would make a very interesting to life for a young NEVILLE So I followed the instructions read to them the actual cash and directed that the toy be sent to my brother's household in Chicago on Christmas Day I telephoned to say Merry Christmas and after the first exchange of greetings my brother's voice took on a tone which I have during the years learned to recognize. As bodega no good. Sister he said Where did you find that toy you sent to charter. Why I told him nervously I happened to read the advertisement of it it sounded very to what's the matter with it well he answered you know anything about the magnetic field No I said I don't perhaps you answered I can explain it this way just after the toilet gun rack this morning and sank down beside the fire that a friendly neighbor came in with them gifts and delicious a Merry Christmas and as he stood in the doorway of the living room twirling his car keys on his finger there was suddenly a shot from his hand catapulted the length of the room and attached to the sleet. At that moment Linda the younger child came galloping happily into the living room bearing in her arms a set of dolls kitchen dishes which she had just unwrapped. But they left or. Right. Thing.