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WNYC reporter Ilya Marritz explains why some people's Con Ed bills are much higher than they were at this time last year, and what the frigid temperatures have to do with it.
Con Ed is the new MafiaThey lied about a pole on my driveway and said the pole was mine to maintain - which it wasn't. Then they spray painted it and said, "See?! This color indicates this is your pole." Are they kidding? A bunch over overgrown, spoiled brats thinking they can deceive me? I said "Just because you spray painted a circle on the poll doesn't make it mine. Where is the proof?" Then they brought me a forged, hand drawn map and said that the map indicated that it was my poll! Again, are they f--king kidding? I said, "This isn't an official audited map. Where is the certified sealed signature? Where is the date? Where is the stamp?"I filed a complaint with the PSC and said that the official maps on record in the property offices of the county, town and village showed that it was their poll to maintain. I also stated that if the poll fell, the law suit would cost Con Ed millions whereas for about a thousand dollars of work, they could fix the poll's problems. They fixed the problems.
Recently they sent me a shut off notice because I didn't want to go to "level billing" after they "invited" me 3x by mail. Riiiiiggggght! I filed a complaint that this is bullying in its most blatant form. I paid my bills.Who needs the Mafia or gangs, when Con Ed is there to demand "protection money?"
I signed with ameristar energy a local esco located out on long island... my rate is locked in at .1090 per/kwh for electric.. :) fax ur statement to 631.595.2080 for a FREE analysis of ur con ed bill now..! i'm in midtown and a commercial customer.
Level plans are a Joke.I work through High Peak Electrical Use. So, Why do You Double Charge Me for monthly charges.It's Over Due that this Company Have Some Serious Completion. Your Driving people Out of The City. Bring Down those Ridiculous Runaway Prices.
Just received my Mar 27 to Apr 25 Con Ed bill, check this out\My bill was $87.99, this not using any electric heat, whick is what my house is set up for, but wait:
My usage was: $23.05 with taxes a other charges
Delivery was: $59.96 Can you believe it! Double my usage . . WTF!!
My delivery charge is greater than my usage, what is wrong? Our Government is letting this happen to us, how many times are going to pay for Con EdsPoles and Wires . . . geeeeezz!!!
Must be a bunch of anti-Obama callers. The official government CPI for NY shows no such increase. What is all this make-believe hype? The government numbers show negative (-1.9) increase. You can read the public documents. Why would anyone make up this nonsense when our government prints official news to discount this story? If callers are saying our Bureau of Labor Statistics is not being accurate, let me remind you that Obama personally got on TV with the head to discount radicals. The Bureau Head personally said: "I have no idea how these numbers could be wrong". So there, what more proof do you need?These people claiming the Bureau is wrong should be held accountable.
Be advised people, the electricity providers are not regulated by Federal, State or City governments and their prices are dictated by the stock market fluctuations. This is reminding me of the Bernie Madoff ripoffs. Unregulated/stock market. Get the picture folks? There seriously needs to be an investigation of what is going on behind the scenes.
con ed charging too much for electricity all of this is crazy why the goverment dont put a contract with coned that before they raise the charger to have a conference in the city hall
My delivery charge is exactly the same as my usage.50% of my bill is delivery, thats just fucking nuts, and borderline a scam IMO.Im about to rip the line off my house and find some alternative to a service line, ill fucking drill down in my yard till I hit a volcanic vein to power geothermal pumps if I fucking have to, its getting INSANE.
I have been operating a few modest scrypt miners and it was reasonable for a few months till the recent spike in delivery charges, they have pushed me to the point of loss.
High energy costs crushing small businesses trying to partake in the new crypto economy.
I have to move operations outside of NY to compete now, other states have 0.08cents per KW and NO DELIVERY charge, but New Yorkers are suckers so we pay 5 times the national energy price.
I buy my electricity from Green Mountain Energy Company, an ESCO, and my electric bill is down since I switched about 2 summers ago. However, what I cannot explain the ESCO charge is $56.50 and the ConEd delivery is just as high at $54.26. I do question how ConEd "delivery" charges are just as high.The breakdown ConEd Explains on the April bill is as follow:Basic Service charge (for basic system infrastructure and customer related services, including customer accounting, meter reading and meter maintainence): $15.23,Delivery @ 10.6678/Kwh (Charge for maintaining the system through which ConEd delivery electricity to me): $31.15,SBC/RPS Charges @ .6404/Kwh (The System Benefits charge/renewable Portfolio Standard Charges fund NYS renewable energy, environmental and other related public policy programs): $1.87,Temporary NYS Surcharges @.3904/Kwh (covers new fees imposed by the state): $1.14,GRT & Other Tax Surcharges (Taxes on ConEd gross receipts from sales of utility services and other Tax surcharges): $2.53,Sales tax @ 4.5% (Tax Collected on behalf of NYC) $2.34. Total Delivery charges $54.26 almost just as much as the cost ESCO Supply charge at $56.50.
I remembered Sprint, I had every month higher bill, I used my phone not much, I didn't use my minutes, always higher taxes. I couldn't understand why, price of the plan was different and bills higher and higher....
Andrew Cuomo took care of the disgraceful Lilco and Lipa out on Long Island. Why isn't he adressing Con Ed's NONSENSE?I still cannot understand why these politicians never look out for their literally millions of middle class constituents whom, month after month and year after year, are financially attacked by our phone companies, our electrical suppliers and our cable tv providers (which has come to be a basic utility now). These outrageous utility costs are NEVER addressed. We are given the runaround when we request an explanation of these ridiculous costs. WE NEED ACTIVE REPRESENTATION addressing these issues which affect us so deeply. If the Governor can help Long Island, why not New York City residents. I certainly don't count on our new Mayor for assistance, it's never been mentioned in his tale of two cities. Again, the middle class falls thru the cracks and stays in the MIDDLE.
My bill was 408$ for this month compared to 312 last month.. I'm never home and I barely use any electric and leave my hear on 63 when I'm gone and 68 when I'm there.. I live in a brand new 2 bedroom condo.. How could this be so much? It's crazy too me... My parents have a 4500 square foot house in putnam and there's is way less.. Guess that's what ya should know living in westchester/nyc
Similar to Dixie from 10025 - my Mom (from 10706) has now had 2 months (Jan and Feb) where her electric kWh usage suddenly jumped to almost double previous years. She has gas heat and hot water (gas use was just slightly higher - expected due to cold)- and she has not purchased any new appliances or electronics this winter. She called Con Ed - long hold - lots of "scripts" read to her that did not relate to her problem - they said finally they would come check the meter. Then she calls back to re-schedule the appointment, only to find Con Ed had canceled it - without telling her - saying that since the doubled charge happened twice - the meter must be working ok (twice implies meter is not flaky I guess?). They now refuse to come out to check her meter. Pay or your electric will be cut off. Wish we had a public advocate in Westchester - not sure who to contact.
My bills went from $79 (November), $105 (December) $117 (January) to $122 (February); I have not changed any living patterns or added any electronics. It's a disgrace! I'm still mad that I lost over $150 worth of food during Hurricane Sandy (electricity out for 5 days), and you could only get reimbursement if you were on food stamps. Everyone should have been reimbursed; I had the receipts and I'm retired and barely getting by!
And, Dixie, contact the NYC Public Advocate regarding your complaint. I knew in the summer of 2012 I was being seriously over-billed, but when I would talk to Con Ed they acted like I was nuts. I e-mailed the Public Advocate's Office and explained the situation; two months later I got a credit of $260 from Con Ed. If I hadn't kept at it, I never would have gotten this credit.
Con Ed is despicable. They always have an excuse, and it's never their fault!
My Con Ed electric bill spike 60% for this period. Seems to me like another excellent reason to get away from volatile resources like natural gas to renewable, environmentally healthy energy sources.
What I noticed most on my recent Con Ed bill was the excessive amount of kilowatt hours I was being charged. Since I wasn't around much in December, certainly didn't use more electricity than in a normal December month, and actually used less, I was shocked to see that the energy use on my bill was double the KWH for the same period in all past years. As a matter of fact, the KWH were the highest ever. For the past 8 years, I've kept monthly records of usage, not cost, since the charge per KWH can vary by month. My records show the vast inconsistency, so I called ConEd to report it. I should not have been surprised to hear them making every excuse they could think of, none of which made sense nor dealt with the issue. They won't do anything about it, and I cannot do anything other than to pay the bill in order to avoid having my electricity cut off. I am so disgusted and untrusting of them now. It seems I am locked in to using a corrupt, usurious public utility.
Regardless of which ESCO you choose, for the first 2 months you receive a 7% discount. That's the PowerMove incentive mandated by law and it only happens for the first ESCO you choose.
Not every ESCO is up front about the length of the discount. Always read the small print. Like any other business, look for the ones with integrity.
Since ConEd is exclusive for the delivery portion of the bill, and that's the high part, perhaps their resources would be less taxed if delivery was their solo focus? They do own the infrastructure of our power lines.
Although the supply part of the bill may not track a huge savings, it might be best to let ConEd concentrate on delivery.
Electric bills are going up and up and up because the laws allow Con Ed to keep on raising its' Delivery Charges. Only Con Ed can deliver, no matter who the electricity is bought from. So what's seemingly not regulated is the delivery mechanism which Con Edison claim they need to keep repaired etc. However, the delivery charges on my bills are ALWAYS AT LEAST half the amount my of usage costs. No-one I ask about their electricity bill ever notices this so I assume people just don't read them! Odd! So my question is: how does the cost of delivery relate to the amount delivered? Does anyone know?
Our current ConEd bill spiked about 25% compared to last month. The bill indicates we consumed more natural gas than last month for heating, but it's just not possible -- I pay attention to these things -- when comparing January's ultra low temps to February's it just doesn't add up and leaves the impression that ConEd is inflating energy consumption rates.
I've also noticed a drop in natural gas pressure, as when the heat is on the kitchen oven struggles to heat up.
On buying energy from the free market, we tried that too and it was a disaster, we moved right back to ConEd.
We've had our house in Westchester for over 4 years now and I've learned some essential things: steam heating a large house is bad news. It's noisy, slow and way too expensive. I have friends with larger houses heated by hot water baseboards and their bills are nearly a third compared to mine. In the next few years we're planning for some big renovations and it's looking economically foresiteful to replace our house's heating system with something more efficient.
This segment was extremely useful. It would be great to devote more time to discussing how one can save money through alternate energy providers. Some providers offer fixed rate plans (for a 6, 12, or 24 month period). It would be great to hear from people who use these plans, and become aware of the pros and cons of using them. It would be good to know if companies can change the rate from fixed to variable after the contract expires, and if so, if that's the "gotcha" we need to be aware of.I've been researching various fixed-rate plans, and the ones that have stood out are those from Con Ed Solutions (fixed rate green and conventional energy), Green Mountain Energy (fixed and variable green options), Constellation Energy (fixed rate conventional energy), Oasis Energy (fixed rate green and conventional energy).
Most of these options provide a fixed rate of 12 to 13 cents per kilowatt hour (kWh) for the supply portion of the bill. Some, such as Green Mountain energy charge a monthly maintenance fee (of around $5.95), which needs to be factored into one's monthly cost estimates.
Some reviews of Green Mountain energy on Yelp have been very negative, so I'd like to hear from some of their customers here.
Finally, anyone interested in comparing all of their options should review this website:http://www.newyorkpowertochoose.com
The explanation of price fluctuations seems to focus on the variability of the gas prices. However, the delivery charges also fluctuate. Why does that make sense?
Our landlord supplies the heater and air conditioner, but we pay for gas and electric (to Con Ed). Both units are substandard for the size of the space- about 800 square feet. The windows are over 100 years old, so they are not double insulated. It's not surprising that our bill is pushing $600 a month. Con Ed won't do anything, and the landlord won't either. What's a tenant to do in a situation like this? I don't know.
If you live in New York, you probably buy your electricity and natural gas from Con Ed. But you don't have to. Con Ed's service territory is deregulated, which means you’re allowed to shop around and buy your electricity and natural gas from among several competing energy companies, called Energy Service Companies, or ESCOs:
Information to consider when choosing an Energry Service Company (ESCO):
What You Should Know Before Choosing An Energy Supplierhttp://www3.dps.ny.gov/W/PSCWeb.nsf/All/85467623BB1B510085257687006F3ACA?OpenDocument
Choosing an ESCOhttp://cooperator.com/articles/758/1/Choosing-an-ESCO/Page1.html
Energy Service Companyhttp://consumer.westchestergov.com/important-information/find-lowest-gas-and-oil-prices/energy-service-company
Sassy Lou from NYC:
This is a review of your ESCO, Energy Plus:
"They offer a bit lower rate on gas & electricity when you first sign in, and then couple of months later when you think they are at lower rate as usual, they jack up their charges to more than doubled. It took 3 billing cycles more after I realized their high charges and called to change back, and it cost me few hundred dollars more for the 5 months I was with them"
(Quoted from: http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/energy-plus-company.html)
More here: http://travelsort.com/blog/is-energy-plus-a-scam
Looks like they can afford to give away those Amtrak awards.
If you were using a renewable energy supplier, your bills did not go up. Go green, not only better for the planet, it's now better for your wallet. I use Con Ed Solutions and was completely unaffected by the rate increase.
Where is the nuclear power? Don't we have nuclear power plants in NYS? What they hell do we have them for if we can't get cheap electricity??
I thought it was just me. My bill is about 25% higher. Is there anything that can be done?
It sounds like on top of supplier price increases, Con Ed estimated usage for a great number of its customers (including me) and estimated increased usage. This is an unfair practice and should be prohibited. Otherwise, what's to stop them from not reading meters and using an inflated estimate just to get a short term cash boost - should they want to?!
Living in a NYC apartment, I don't pay directly for heat. I have one refrigerator, one computer, and maybe 3 CFL bulbs burning at any given time. That's it - no TV, no toys, nothing else is even plugged in. $200 for a month, at this level of use, is mind-boggling. And I'm supposedly using a "renewable energy" supplier!
Doesn't ConEd use energy market derivatives and futures to even out their costs? Or do they figure, "Why bother - the customers have to pay for it."
We have been arguing with Con Ed since 2012 about crazy bills - their claims that they were denied access to the meter (false and impossible as the meter is in public hall of 24/7 staffed apt building. Then a gas bill(we haven't used gas since 2005. Kilowatt usage spikes when we are away for months on endI have contacted the PSC and got a little bit of action but not really satisfied. What I know is that an apt that has been used the same way for 9 years has since a tripling of rates over the past year. Something is rotten in the State of New York.
Aside from the increase in our Con Ed bills, what can we do to have this matter receive greater scrutiny from elected officials? Should we be demanding hearings to review and seek not just answers from ConEd but have the rates regulated in a manner that is more transparent, equitable, and consistent?
Is it time to occupy ConEd?
My bill doubled. I called con ed and was told my supplier charge had nearly tripled. I called the supplier and they said that's the way it is. So I changed suppliers. You can do that on the con ed website-it's not difficult. The question is how can it even be legal for supply rates to jump like that with no warning. That is a crime and should be what is investigated.
A 22% rate hike should certainly be questioned. My bill also claimed a 600Kw increase in usage for January over all previous 12 months. Supposedly it was an "actual reading." We have challenged but have only received a lot of double-talk and a promise of possible investigation. Meanwhile I am expected to pay over $500 for January for a service which at its highest point billed $275. $30 of this was for gas, btw.
My Con Edison "rates" change every month - the cost per kWh and the basic service charge. How can these change from month to month? That doesn't make sense. It's counter to the point of having "rates."
That is, the point of having those "rates" is to have some standard - by which to charge by usage. It means there's some other way each bill is figured - and it's not by how much we use each month. Something seems not right about this. How are we being charged?
I am not seeing the same cost increases with the greener alternative power resource of Green Mountain energy for my apt in NYC.
my electric bill was 1/3 higher & I was out of town for 8 days during that month. seriously - what is going on?
I would love some clear information on other providers!
Con Edison needs better oversight. Apparently this is a dumping ground for ex elected officials and former governors staff members. My experience with Con Ed has been a local water main pipe broke and flooded many residents gas lines. Employees were really nice about the situation but on day 7 Con Ed offered me on the street a hot plate for free. Seriously?
I wrote the head of public affairs and I'm publicly giving out her name since she should be inundated with emails and phone calls. Con Ed has a community affairs division but what the heck do they do?
Jane SolnickDirector Public AffairsBronx & Westchester914/925-6496SOLNICKJ@coned.com I had the experience
My bill this month was $630. Almost twice that of last month. Not only did we have a huge rate increase but we have the added problem of why our usage is so high. We heat with oilNot electric. We have appealed to con ed to help us understand this and we still don't get it. We live in a small house . We are beginning to despair.
I wrote an e-mail to my representatives, Chuck Shumer, Jerrey Klein and Eliot Engel to ask whether they were aware of the huge increase in the cost of electric. None of my elected representatives responded. I wonder if they would respond to a five figure contribution.
Con Ed is very creative with their myriad of explanations for gouging their customers this month. The told me it was because the bad weather prevented them from reading our meters in my building. Of course, as usual, such a thing never results in a lower bill. Mine was ridiculously inflated. I can't afford to loan Con Ed $50 this month. And, I might add, interest-free! I'll be requesting an extension, until they can actually read my meter. Otherwise, I want interest paid on the overage for the total time it's in their pockets! Enough is enough!
My bill went up by almost $30 this month. I sit with practically every light turned off during the day. The only electricity I use is one lamp and my computer. I called Con Ed and the representative told me about the raise in rates and how they're getting a lot of complaints. She said she saw that I don't use a lot of electricity and also explained that they "guess" at how much I will use. If they charge too much then the following month the bill will reflect it. This has happened to me before but it's a pain that I have to pay for what they think I might use. Even though the following months' bill might be less that doesn't help me if I'm short of funds this month because of their "guess."
The supply charge for the kilowatt hours went from 8.975 to 17.942 from Jan. to Feb.! How can Edison explainthat increase in one month? My electricity charge went up $24 in a month and my usage in my home doesn't change. I turn off lights when exiting a room and do not use space heaters or other heating equipment. I'm considering exiting the automatic payments from my bank.
My bill more than doubled...that 22% increase figure is pretty insulting.
I put a Nest thermostat in last summer and it has really helped me control the heating bill this year by managing the temps from my iphone and computer. Later, i installed 4 ecobee internet thermostats at our church and we are seeing big reductions in use there too. Nest works for boilers and gas/oil furnaces but wont help if you have a shared system. Same with ecobee. Of the two ecobee is about $100 less and does the same thing but lacks the cool factor of the Nest.
Conservation is the only answer, cutting down the waste and better managing usage is mandatory to controlling costs.
Please look I to the salaries. One example: A maintenance man who sweeps floor after 20 yrs on the jobs earns 120,000 while a normal company in NYC pays $40,000! A lineman supervisor after 15 yrs earns $170,000 with overtime !
Indeed, the severe winter is pushing up energy prices all over the Eastern US. We are very lucky that we have not experienced shortages of natural gas, electricity or oil, just higher costs. In the future we may not be so lucky. President Obama's war on coal and all carbon based energy will leave us short on Mega Watts and BTU's when the cold and heat hit hard again. Renewables can only offer a tiny fraction of our ever growing needs.
My bill doubled because the per unit cost doubled. Everyone I know experienced a doubling too.
Is con ed making up that 20% number?
Or, in my case they estimated the bill, even though they have remote readings set up, due to the weather! I wasn't there to use the electricity but they automatically took the money from my account. I chalk it up to their greed, and called for a check to reimburse me, after they re estimate the bill, since there's no mechanism for them to return the money they took from me. I also stopped automatic payments - if they can just make up an inflated amount to charge me, take it, and then not have a simple way to return it screw them, monopoly that they are!
The question in my mind is how Con Ed buys natural gas or other energy. Presumably they can purchase in advance and use derivatives to mitigate spikes. There are transactional costs associated with doing so, but it is how those who buy volatile commodities manage risks. Con Ed should disclose how they do their purchasing and pricing (aside from the end result shown in customers' bills). Of course, some bills might spike more than other based upon the efficiency of the customer's heating units as well as usage.
My NJ bill from PSEG has been TWICE as high as last year-for 2 months in a row.So it is not just Con Ed. seems like a deliberate spike.
My bill was up almost 50%, significantly at odds with Con Ed's website statement that the "average" bill increased about 22%. And ConEd had no explanation as to why my bill increased so much more than the "average." Someone should investigate not only the justification and amounts of the various charges but also the Con Ed statements about them and whether they are accurate or misleading.
I have an alternate supplier..but every month I use them..... I get a shitload of points connected to my Amtrak membership awards. I get free train tickets rountrip every year.
I did not notice a huge change. In fact, it was about $12 lower than normal.
I switched ESCOs in August, but my bill went UP, not down, so I switched back to Con Ed as supplier. I'm inclined to agree with MJ's assessment that the "delivery" charge is source of high bill.
This was a grossly undeserved PR victory for "helpful" Con Ed, which has applied for approval of yet another rate increase. The largest part of any Con Ed bill is the so-called "delivery" charge for both gas and electricity. It far exceeds the "supply" charge for kilowatt hours and therms used (even though "collection related activities and uncollectible accounts" are listed under "supply"). Using another energy supplier ("ESCO")saves shamefully little, as Con Ed still bills you for "delivery", which covers its ENTIRE cost of doing business. "Public utility?" No way.
Yep, my bill was about $40 higher than normal!
It's too bad that the point about the caller whose bill barely changed, due to enrollment in an alternative energy plan, was barely explored.
Perhaps for another segment? It seems like that might be a more effective way to save, rather than visiting the Con Ed web site.
WNYC could do the community a service by exploring the effectiveness of those options.
Why didn't you touch the topic of alternative energy providers?While ConEd has the monopoly of owning the wires to get the energy to you and is charging a delivery charge (= whatever they want?), customers have theoretical the choice of buying the actual energy from about 30 different vendors in NYC....Unfortunately, comparison is not available online and a total mess, you probably need to spend a week and have a Phd to sort through. So, most people won't. So, it's a price monopoly through confusion & obfuscation, like in so many "markets" in the US. I wish your guest would have shed a bit light in this instead of just recommending to safe energy (which everyone should!) thanks,
I'm glad to hear alternative energy mentioned--I was going to ask! My utilities are included in my rent, so I (1) can't switch to another energy source & (2) didn't know if people who did had the price difference show up in their individual electric bills. Maybe the price spike will help persuade the board in my bldg. to switch over.
Pipelines haven't caught up to the natural gas supply? Good! A lot of us are working to keep it that way & get renewable sources subsidized on the level that fossil fuels are. As Brian once said, there's no such thing as a wind spill.
Our December and January bills were more than twice what they were last year. Rather panicked about this development...
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