This week ISIS published the twelfth issue of its English-language propaganda magazine, Dabiq, a glossy PDF circulated online. It's full of lengthy articles about their "utopian" caliphate, and even a feature that quotes American politicians and pundits describing how powerful ISIS is. But if they're watching and quoting American media so closely, how should we talk about them? And what should we call them? Bob talks with J.M. Berger, co-author of ISIS: The State of Terror, about Dabiq, and the ISIS vs. Daesh debate.
"Trance Dance" by John Zorn
BOB: We’re back now with J.M. Berger, co-author of ISIS: The State of Terror, this time to discuss media and ISIS from the other direction: its very own magazine, Dabiq. English language magazines promoting jihadism aren’t new: they’ve been around since the Soviet-Afghan war of the 1980s. But like other elements of ISIS’s propaganda arm, Dabiq is particularly slick...
BERGER: They have now put out twelve issues, distributed online as a PDF. It looks like a commercial magazine.
BOB: J.M. Berger is co-author of ISIS: The State of Terror.