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Manhattan DA on the Harlem Raids

Thursday, June 12, 2014

Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance talks about the issues raised by the two raids in Harlem public housing last week and how his office will address the cases. 

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Cyrus Vance, Jr.

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Derrick Haynes from Harlem

A significant part of the CBA agreement between Columbia, The West Harlem Development Corp. and the community is a three million dollar allocation for the residents of Grant and Manhattanville for educational, cultural and employment initiatives. To date not a single penny of this money has been allocated towards juvenile specific initiatives simply because the two T.A. Presidents Ms. Martin and Ms. Morris refuse to sit in a room together and hammer out funding for youth, adults and senior programs.

The Manhattanville community center for the past 50 years has been shared by both developments as well the outside basketball courts at Grant because Manhattanville has no full courts. From 2002 - 2007 the Manhattanville community center had been closed for renovations, and the violence we see now is simply a result of the system breaking down. When it was reopened so much money was spent on the renovations that there was nothing remaining for meaningful programs, now the center is being privatized and again will shut out local and community youth, as well the Grant outside courts which have fell into decay.

If you really want to fix the problem you have to attack it with a bottom up approach and a top down analysis and when you meet in the middle you will have found your SOLUTION. And that solution will be the receipe that can be used at other NYCHA developments suffering with the same problem its not just more policing, or cameras it actually called HUMAN CAPITAL EXPENDITURES and until we commit the necessary funding this problem will persist.

Jun. 13 2014 05:13 PM
bob from Manhattan

Very saddened by Mayor DeBlasio's justification of the behavior of the police in this instance. Ironically, in your next topic on the program, you make the statement that the "investment community" is comfortable with Mr. DeBlasio's
"progressive" approach. Can we connect the dots here? What about the fact that the horrific gang behavior in the projects has taken place during a time when much of the rest of the city has seen rampant gentrification. At least
Mr. Vance understands that the answer to preventing this violence continuing is services. But will the city or the private sector provide them? Columbia University is building a state of the art extension of its campus right across the street from the Manhattanville projects. Will they reach out to their neighbors and extend some greatly needed services? Isn't that what a "liberal" university is supposed to do?

Jun. 12 2014 11:28 AM
Will from Harlem


NYPD backed by the DA's office conducted a military style shock and awe assault on a Black and Latino neighborhood last Wednesday. Stop calling this a "gang raid"-

When the police stopped a 12-year-old in Grant Houses and pulled his underwear over his head and then took turns taking pictures and laughing, it was about domination and control. When they put a gun in the face of a 3-year-old and wouldn't let her go to the bathroom, and pulled a 16 year old girl from her bed, handcuffed her and put her face down on the floor and would not let her put on clothes, that was about domination and control. When cops high fived and joked as they busted up peoples meager possessions, that was about domination and control. When a cop told a grandmother shielding her terrified 7 year old grandson, "We'll be back for him later"- what was that? What is going on is about attacking and isolating and demonizing a whole section of people and it is another step in a slow genocide that could become a fast one. Everything Police Commissioner Bratton and DA Vance say is in the service of defending a system that is built on savage racial oppression which is what lies at the heart of the outrageous assault last Wednesday.

To hear the truth about this assault firsthand from the families who experienced it and others -- Come to Harlem Community Speakout Friday June 13, 6 PM, Harlem State Office Building, 125 & Adam Clayton Powell Blvd. Called for by NYC Revolution Club, endorsed by Stop Mass Incarceration Network and West Harlem Residents.

To hear Brian Lehrer and others tell it, it's all about "crime prevention". BS! These assaults are part of the national character of America, it's in this country's DNA. We are looking at a system with a long history.

Remember the Central Park jogger case and the lynch mob atmosphere the cops, DA, mainstream media whipped up? Remember the forced false confessions? Remember the countless examples of police murdering and abusing people and then lying, repeatedly, in order to create public opinion to justify attacks. I could list hundreds of cases. And it's not just this city or this pd. It is everywhere! What is the connection of all this to the screaming injustice of mass incarceration, no jobs, no future for whole sections of black and brown people? Go to revcom.us and read "NYPD Terrorizes Harlem Neighborhood"

Jun. 12 2014 11:18 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Hey you
Who me, Officer Krupke?
Yeah you, gimme one good reason for not dragging
You down the station, ya punk?

Dear kindly Sergeant Krupke, you gotta understand
It's just our bringin' upke that gets us out of hand
Our mothers all are junkies, our fathers all are drunks
Golly Moses, naturally we're punks

Gee, Officer Krupke, we're very upset
We never had the love that every child oughta get
We ain't no delinquents, we're misunderstood
Deep down inside us there is good

There is good
There is good, there is good
There is untapped good
Like inside, the worst of us is good

That's a touching good story
Lemme tell it to the world
Just tell it to the Judge

Westside Story - Gee, Officer Krupke Lyrics | MetroLyrics

Jun. 12 2014 10:21 AM
steven from Manhattan

To "John from office" -- if you have no clue about something, or just don't know entire communities, maybe you should listen more and speak less -- you might just learn something. To DA Vance -- your responses are those of a politician, and while we understand the position you're in, we need more than that from you. NO one is disputing the needs for some kind of police intervention here, but there is also no question from such eye-witness accounts of NYPD abuses -- and the long history of exactly such abuses (from Sean Bell to Occupy, the city pays out millions of our tax dollars annually to settle such abuses) -- that we the people require some serious investigation into NYPD training, oversight and policy. They must learn to police effectively without antagonizing and threatening the very people they are assigned to protect!

Jun. 12 2014 10:19 AM
fuva from harlemworld

LOL. SKV, "thinly veiled"?...

Jun. 12 2014 10:16 AM
ek from bkln

Come on bryan, don't be such a wuss. Press this guy. "heavy handed" is not ok for the innocent people that are caught up in the police arrests. Yes, the people want the police to arrest the violent offenders, gang members, but they can't go into a woman's home that has small children and scare the crap out of them. This is what causes the neighbors to distrust the police and not want to help; it backfires on the innocent.

Jun. 12 2014 10:16 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Please. Cy Vance is NOT the one for this, based on his track record.

Once again, re-arranging Titanic deck chairs, while the steerage is locked below.

Jun. 12 2014 10:15 AM

So, so sick of "john from office"s thinly-veiled racism.

Jun. 12 2014 10:14 AM
Shelley from NYC

He doesn't think the NYPD uses unnecessary force or roughness?

What will it take to convince him, if multiple eyewitness reports don't?

How about putting cameras on his officers?

Jun. 12 2014 10:12 AM
C.G. from Manhattan

From the calls made earlier this week, it seems clear that many people, who were not the subject of warrants and were not ultimately arrested during the raids, were nonetheless detained temporarily and even handcuffed. In this post-Stop-and-Frisk era, when we insist on reasonable suspicion to stop or detain someone, can D.A. Vance explain how the police could have particularized reasonable suspicion to detain on a blanket basis?

Jun. 12 2014 10:12 AM
John from office

Can anyone hear say Parental Control ???

Jun. 12 2014 10:09 AM
John from office

That call is price-less, we be OK killing each other! He be my son!

Jun. 12 2014 10:03 AM
john from office

The problem is that these "residents" want police protection, but don't want the police to arrest their, father, brother, sister, son or friend. Making excuses for bad behavior will never result in the prevention of crime. These "kids" AKA Thugs belong in jail and their parents should be billed for their jail time and court costs.

Oh by the way the City Counsel in voting on a Hip Hop-Rap Music Museum, hope they have a section on the body count for all that "art" and achievement.

Peace Out !

Jun. 12 2014 09:39 AM

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