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Could LG and Its Opponents Compromise in the Palisades?

Monday, June 23, 2014

Electronics giant LG plans to build its new US headquarters near the Palisades in New Jersey, which opponents say will destroy the beautiful view. Local officials are now calling for a compromise between LG and its environmental opponents. Ned Sullivan, President of Scenic Hudson and a member of the steering committee Protect the Palisades, a coalition of organizations and individuals dedicated to preserving the Hudson River Palisades, discusses what this compromise might look like.

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Ned Sullivan

Comments [21]

Hey, WNYC

What land (precisely) did the Rockefeller Foundation buy to protect the view from The Cloisters? Is the tract along Sylvan Avenue where this building is planned a part of it or not?

Jun. 24 2014 12:58 AM
MArk

Why are rich people so whiney? Other than a few McMansion flippers who are worried their speculations will be hosed, who gives a crap?

Jun. 23 2014 03:50 PM

I see people criticizing @Steven Polinsky for pointing out that what LG is doing is not against the law?

If you care, beyond posting to websites, call your lawmaker, people! You know LG is.

Jun. 23 2014 03:30 PM
Margaret from Morningside Heights

I wondered before how the company can say a low, flat building won't give them the same useful area. A lower building could even help keep employees healthy, walking more, and using less energy spent running elevators as much - 'GREEN'. Horizontal spread means more roof area for 1) gardens for A) greenery B) cafeteria seating C)exercise area and D)parking (cover with greenery to allay pollution)- GREEN. Might even matter to security, to have all these within the footprint of the building, in these days of random, not only disgruntled-former-employee, shootings. Aesthetics don't need to be forsaken to be greener. A lower height would make the seasonal tending to the building's greenery cover easier. Dan from Brooklyn: Intelligent architecture can focus the airflow through the shape of a building's open spaces, and relating openings to the regular wind pattern of the area it's in. More heat if horizontal? Maybe try Korean traditional floor heating, beginning to be used by some here (with pipes,not burning coals).

Jun. 23 2014 03:22 PM
RUCB_Alum from Central New Jersey

Hey...Nobody is stopping LG from building down. That is digging a hole big enough to keep their friggin' building out of sight. It would cost a lot more but it gives LG a market-friendly justifier for higher prices across their product line. How's that for a win-win?

Jun. 23 2014 12:36 PM
Mark in NJ from NJ

Why is Scenic Hudson negotiating a tree line height limit? Korean LG knew they purchased a property with a 35 foot limit. If they were promised something else, they should produce evidence. With 27 acres, meeting their capacity requirements should be easy at 35 feet.

Jun. 23 2014 12:16 PM
Amy from Manhattan

Stephen Polinsky, I am so tired of people characterizing this as an issue only for "wealthy Manhattanites." Public parks are open to everyone, regardless of income. There are plenty of poor & middle-class (& no, I don't mean 6 figures) people in Manhattan, & the parks across from NJ are some of the places we can go for free & enjoy the view, the trees, the fresh air. This is not an elitist issue.

Linda, thanks. I hadn't even heard about the FreshDirect subsidy.

Jun. 23 2014 11:09 AM

This is the beginning, folks. Chinese firms will be here soon enough, now that they have money but no air to breathe.

Instead of boycotting LG, better to leverage public attention -- which is usually about as sustained as a gnat's life -- toward creating laws that protect your position. Democracy.

Jun. 23 2014 11:04 AM

@Steven Polinsky from New Jersey

"Your coverage of this matter continues to lack the most basic context as to what happened, how it happened, and why the opponents realize they have little basis for attacking this action, except that a bunch of wealthy Manhattanites feel a special privilege for their view."

Not really...This is the third show on the topic that I can recall. Gov. Whitman, the tool from LG, and this guy- Who if asked point blank would probably admit he's not the world's best interviewee. At this point a lot of 'gisting' can be expected. It was clear that LG had the legal right to build what they want but that they would be the first building - and others would likely follow - whose building would break the tree line. LG was originally unresponsive and are now trying to paint a better picture for the public. They are, after all, a consumer electronics company.

My position isn't changing. I will boycott the goods and services of any company whose buildings break the Englewood Cliffs tree line. There are many, many other companies already in that space and I can see no real need to break what had been a "gentleman's agreement". The NJ legislature should go ahead and codify this so the next fight can be avoided.

Compromise, indeed.

Jun. 23 2014 10:58 AM
Larry from Nyack

I think that if hundreds of homeowners and renters like me, who are planning to buy new refrigerators, TV's, air conditioners, etc., send a letter to LG Electronics, 1000 Sylvan Ave, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 stating that because of tLG's lack of concern for the environment, we will --not-- consider LG brands when we purchase appliances, then maybe they'll get the message.

Jun. 23 2014 10:58 AM

If LG is the property owner and there is no zoning or other law against LG's plans, this conversation is simply like a rich people crying NIMBY.

Buy the land!

Change the laws!

Otherwise you're out. Welcome to America.

This is nothing. Greed, corporate interests, ignorance and corruption has raped the once-gorgeous state of NJ nearly to the bone.

Jun. 23 2014 10:50 AM
Jeanne from hastings

that caller about the hypocrisy of open space institute and nature conservancy is spot on though

Jun. 23 2014 10:47 AM
foodaggro from Brooklyn

Let's go for the "win-win!!"

Jun. 23 2014 10:47 AM
Leonardo_A from NJ

If the guest says win win one more time I might shoot myself. The building has been approved by the township, how do they have any legal basis to stop it?

Jun. 23 2014 10:47 AM
dan from brooklyn

I don't support the project, but it is cheaper, and generally more environmentally responsible, to build up than to build out. There's far more energy costs and lot more space wasted on circulation as gross versus net square footage, in a broader building.

Jun. 23 2014 10:45 AM
Mason from Queens

Has the possibility of a 'green facade' with plantings been considered as a compromise?

Jun. 23 2014 10:41 AM
Ernie from UWS

Your guest seems to be saying nothing. What is his position again?

Jun. 23 2014 10:37 AM
Steven Polinsky from New Jersey

I'm listening to the interview live. Your coverage of this matter continues to lack the most basic context as to what happened, how it happened, and why the opponents realize they have little basis for attacking this action, except that a bunch of wealthy Manhattanites feel a special privilege for their view.

Perhaps someday you will start with the basics, including how the New Jersey Municipal Land Use Law works and effects LG's proposal, and the fact that all of these opponents have no legal basis for challenging LG's building.

Jun. 23 2014 10:36 AM
Amy from Manhattan

Isn't another aspect of the compromise that more trees will be *cut* to make room to build horizontally? What are the environmental concerns about that? Will trees be planted elsewhere to replace them?

Jun. 23 2014 10:36 AM
Linda from Bronx

I support the protection of the views, but it is astounding the time and attention this issue gets, one of bucolic views, and not the dumping and rampant pollution in low income communities of color. For example haven't seen nearly the attention in the media for the Bloomberg era subsidies package offered to FreshDirect, one of the largest ever, to bring a fleet of thousands of truck trips to asthma alley in the south bronx with our own tax monies to the detriment of other businesses and without paying a living wage. DeBlasio hasn't killed the deal and worked to keep FD where they are now in LIC.

Jun. 23 2014 10:35 AM

This seems a typical corporate/institutional strategy: propose something outside the norm and then say you are compromising, not getting exactly what the proposal was for, but nonetheless defying the norm.

Keep the northern side of the bridge clear of development as long as possible. There is room for LG below the bridge.

Jun. 23 2014 10:35 AM

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