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Alice Waters on the Art of Simple Food

Friday, November 15, 2013

Alice Waters talks about the important links between taste, cooking, gardening, and taking care of the land. She also discusses her new cookbook, The Art of Simple Food II, which includes new recipes for the many varieties of vegetables, fruits, and herbs that you can cultivate in your own kitchen garden or find at your local farmers’ market.

Guests:

Alice Waters

Comments [18]

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:27 PM

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:27 PM

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:27 PM

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:27 PM

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:27 PM

real estate values and urban sprawl killed local farming in NJ NY CT PA

Dec. 14 2013 03:26 PM
bkyuk

[[I agree with bkyuk, poor people should not be allowed to spend their money on clothing or accessories. Instead they will be issued standard uniforms from the state (prison uniforms would work nicely), and anyone making under $30,000 a year caught wearing store-bought clothes will be immediately jailed. Then and only then will the poor people in this city be able to afford nutritious meals. Nov. 15 2013 02:21 PM]]

Poor people can do whatever they want, but they cannot ignore the reality that their choices are making them unhealthy. Ms. Waters is an idealist and a fanatic for fresh food, but she is right that people have to make healthy eating a priority.

To put it another way, if you have limited financial resources, then every dollar you spend on hair extensions, fake nails, and cigarettes is money that's unavailable for healthy food.

That's not being judgmental, that's being realistic. Suze Orman would tell poor people to first get control over their small expenses and indulgences. In my case, two cups of coffee a day adds up to a thousand dollars a year....twenty bucks a week times fifty weeks.

Nov. 15 2013 04:30 PM

I have to agree with Jennifer. I'm on Ms. Waters' side in general but really she comes off as clueless and condescending sometimes (George Packer has a really sharp profile of her in The Unwinding.) Poor people do like green markets and fresh vegetables when they can afford them.

And we're not all dupes of the fast food mentality. Many of us (even us educated folk) work a couple of jobs just to get by and don't always feel like doing something creative with organic kale when we get home from a long day at work.

Nov. 15 2013 04:15 PM
John Z.

I agree with bkyuk, poor people should not be allowed to spend their money on clothing or accessories. Instead they will be issued standard uniforms from the state (prison uniforms would work nicely), and anyone making under $30,000 a year caught wearing store-bought clothes will be immediately jailed.

Then and only then will the poor people in this city be able to afford nutritious meals.

Nov. 15 2013 02:21 PM
meat

[[jennifer from princeton
when will food and nutrition commentators understand that poor and working people don't need more kale. they don't need lessons and classes. they need meals on wheels, like we provide for the elderly, of nutritious cooked food. Nov. 15 2013 12:27 PM]]

Yes, they absolutely DO need more kale and other dark leafy greens, sauteed with garlic and served over brown rice, which they would learn how to do in "lessons and classes."

Your idea that "poor" people need to have meals brought to them is absolutely wrong. People can and should cook for themselves.

The "Chinese food" that people pay for...it's just veggies and meat stir fried and dressed with soy sauce thickened with corn starch.

Why not use less beef of a higher quality and add more bell peppers, snow peas, baby bok choy, kale, and green onion?

Feeding yourself is the first step to freeing yourself.

Nov. 15 2013 01:52 PM
bkyuk

[[Eli from East Village
Ms. Waters response was that these kids and their families should spend less money on sneakers and cell phones. I wonder if Ms. Waters' views on this topic have evolved since then, or if she's made any greater effort to understand the day-to-day realities and circumstances of the families that her programs are supposed to help. Nov. 15 2013 12:15 PM]]

Her statement may have been politically incorrect, but it is accurate and true.

Go to black Brooklyn and observe how many young women have ridiculous hair weaves, fake nails, and colored contact lenses. Wasted money.

Nov. 15 2013 01:38 PM
Amy from Manhattan

The price of brussels sprouts went up to 3 or 4 times what it used to be several years ago. I don't buy them anywhere near as often as I used to because of the increased cost (& I actually like brussels sprouts!). Does Ms. Waters know why this happened?

Nov. 15 2013 12:30 PM
jennifer from princeton from Princeton

Eli from East Village: right on! I was listening to her say how we need to get away from fast food culture and thinking, the reason people don't garden and take time to shop and cook like europeans is we work twice as hard as europeans especially the women in this country, and single moms, most especially. she is very out of touch with the real world of most americans, who work many hours if they do have a job and work two jobs if they can't get enough hours at one.

sigh. when will food and nutrition commentators understand that poor and working people don't need more kale. they don't need lessons and classes. they need meals on wheels, like we provide for the elderly, of nutritious cooked food.

Nov. 15 2013 12:28 PM

You know, I thought the same thing about roasted Brussels sprouts being delicious and not gross but our local restaurant started roasting them and the whole block smells like sewage when they do it.

Nov. 15 2013 12:27 PM
jennifer from princeton from Princeton

Eli from East Village: right on! I was listening to her say how we need to get away from fast food culture and thinking, the reason people don't garden and take time to shop and cook like europeans is we work twice as hard as europeans especially the women in this country, and single moms, most especially. she is very out of touch with the real world of most americans, who work many hours if they do have a job and work two jobs if they can't get enough hours at one.

sigh. when will food and nutrition commentators understand that poor and working people don't need more kale. they don't need lessons and classes. they need meals on wheels, like we provide for the elderly, of nutritious cooked food.

Nov. 15 2013 12:27 PM

cardoons grow well here in NJ. my immigrant italian family picks them regularly

Nov. 15 2013 12:17 PM
Eli from East Village

Several years ago I attended a talk by Ms. Waters on her Edible Schoolyard initiative, presented as part of a "Food and Politics" lecture series at UC Berkeley. Toward the end of the talk an audience member asked how low income students who participate in her educational programs might be expected to bring those healthy eating habits home with them considering the higher costs of local, organic produce and healthy natural food in general. Ms. Waters response was that these kids and their families should spend less money on sneakers and cell phones. I wonder if Ms. Waters' views on this topic have evolved since then, or if she's made any greater effort to understand the day-to-day realities and circumstances of the families that her programs are supposed to help.

Nov. 15 2013 12:15 PM
Say cheese!!!

I want to tout my favorite foodie website, which coincidentally features a recipe for brussels sprouts on its home page.

Simply recipes. http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/brussels_sprouts_gratin/

Love food Fridays, love Lenny.

Between you and simply recipes, I may actually be prodded to eat brussels sprouts!

Nov. 15 2013 02:06 AM

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