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General Handicapping

Friday, September 17, 2010

Liz Benjamin, host of Capital Tonight, blogger, and Daily News columnist, and Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist college poll preview the general elections in New York.

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Comments [20]

g.e.Taylor from Bklyn., NY

This sick disease of ridiculing our president is threatening the economic recovery. Maybe we could get a Supreme Court Judge to issue a temporary injunction under the "Yelling in a Theater" Fighting Words Doctrine?

http://bullfrogs-pad.forumotion.com/entertainment-fun-and-games-jokes-and-humor-f19/classic-movies-redone-t982.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EcC0QAd0Ug&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fatlasshrugs2000.typepad.com%2Fatlas_shrugs%2F2008%2F08%2Fobamas-benefact.html&feature=player_embedded

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/05/when_rick_lazio.php

Sep. 19 2010 01:13 PM
Jack from Bronx

Re: Liz Benjamin's comments about Espada being popular in the 33rd District (where he was a 1 term Senator, by the way) -- as a resident of the district I disagree. He was never very popular. Sure there are about 30% of the voters who support him. He got 1 term because he ran against Efrain Gonzalez, indicted at the time (now convicted). This primary displayed his true support in the district. We are very proud to have rejected his corruption and style of politics.

Sep. 18 2010 10:03 AM
Aneece aka Eruch from Brooklyn

Sorry for the name confusion. My computer is filled with autocompletion gremlins. Those two pseudo names are my actual names, so I guess that makes me a "pseudo" person?

Anyway, Taylor, I refuse to grant your multiple change of venue requests. Indulge me in a little role playing. I'll be you, and a conservative version of Cuomo has just been pulled over with a "dead h**ker" in the trunk.

Taylor: I've seen no evidence of anything other than buying sex, something you 3rd wave feminists advocate teaching in our public schools. Why the double standard, betraying your bias, wnyc?

(Multiple liberals respond that he didn't just hire a pro., and that killing h**kers isn't any sort of liberal value)

Taylor: Link please.

(Link provide, and another, and another...)

Taylor: I see that the supposedly reliable source at this alleged "NY Times" has a degree in communications. A trained, accredited propagandist, methinks.

(You, playing my part, call you/me on your/my refusal to face the facts, and constantly changing the terms of the debate. I/you then try to get me/you to admit that there was never any bias in this particular report, which was, after all, your/my original assertion.)

Taylor: Look, for the record, I've never thought killing h**kers was justified. In the name of bipartisanship, can't we all just agree that it's immoral, already? Speaking of depraved behavior with the dead, let's talk about the real issue, taxing bereaved family members just because they've inherited a billion dollars.

http://seattle-times-picayune-dispatch-post-new-york-washington-republic.com/archives/2010/06/how-libruls-ruin-the-rich-folks-buzz:spoiling-a-new-generation-of-high-end-funerals/

Sorry, Taylor. This is yet another typical wingnut move: defending the charge that some preferred politician did something wrong by dragging in totally unrelated issues/problems with some liberal politician. The real Cuomo, not my conservative hypothetical, could be guilty of all kinds of malfeasance, but what does that have to do with your complaint of bias by wnyc and your pretense that Paladino hadn't done anything an amoral liberal could be offended by? If someone accused you of stealing a cookie, would you defend yourself by pointing out that Charles Manson was a really awful person?

Sep. 17 2010 05:33 PM
Bill from Brooklyn

Forgive me - this comment has nothing to do with the show per se. I've been trying, without success so far, to find out what has happened to WNYC (FM & AM) & WQXR HD. Are they gone forever, or is this a temporary situation?

Sep. 17 2010 11:58 AM
g.e.Taylor from Bklyn., NY

In the spirit of "can't we all get along together" - can't we all agree that the disgusting images of animal-human sexual interaction and stereo-typical tribal behavior re-published by Mr. Palidino via his e-mail account are disgusting to us all.
And those "pictorial images" are not the only kinds disgusting depravity and evidence of cruel callousness that can be seen via the Internet. While those pictorial depictions are easily understood by the child-like minds that inhabit most of the NYS electorate (especially the less educated tea party reactionaries),
less easily identified are the long textual fictions by hidden right-wingnuts who attribute improper motives and disgusting behavior to the rightful biological heirs of political advantage and power.
But rather than waste our time with such inflammatory gossip - why don't we continue to focus on the pictures.

http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/05/when_rick_lazio.php

Sep. 17 2010 11:53 AM
DangerWillRobinson

While I don't believe Paladino could pull off a win in NY, I have to question the intentions and mindset of those who voted for him in the primary.

Is this a man you'd want your kids to be like... or be around?

Sep. 17 2010 11:46 AM
Jim from Park Slope

I moved here from Chicago in 2004. I had voted for Blago in '02. At least Paladino shows himself to be loony before the election. I wouldn't be voting for him, even if I had a problem with Cuomo - which I don't.

Sep. 17 2010 10:43 AM
Edward from NJ

Dear Governor Pataki, if you're willing to endorse someone who thinks you're a degenerate idiot, you may be proving his point.

Sep. 17 2010 10:39 AM
David from Great Neck

Conversely: 1969 NYC Mayor. Lindsay re-elected as a Liberal; Marchi was Republican and Procaccino was the Democrat. Only in NY!

Sep. 17 2010 10:38 AM
CL from New York

Palladino is repulsive. He has no chance of being elected. Irrespective of what one thinks of Cuomo, Palladino is but a sideshow attraction. Freaks always get some attention. Liz Benjamin's comment that his candidacy is somehow "dangerous" to Cuomo is as dim-witted as Palladino himself.

Sep. 17 2010 10:37 AM
cwebba1 from Astoria

On 9/11 I started to examine the sources of threats and hate-messages directed towards @Park51 on Twitter and I found a highly organized community of Tea Party hate-mongers. They hate immigration, blacks, Muslims, gays, taxes, Obama (of course). They are organized, actively seek each other out and follow their opponents.

Sep. 17 2010 10:36 AM
David from Great Neck

Are you so sure Paladino cannot be elected? Assuming Lazio remains as Conservative nominee and campaigns, he could attract "respectable" Republican votes. Low turnout could hurt Democrats, so Cuomo could lose. Remember 1970 Senate? Goodell lost to Buckley's brother when Ottinger was weak Democratic candidate. Other reactionaries have been elected like Gov. Ed King (Mass.), Frank Rizzo as Philly mayor, etc.

Sep. 17 2010 10:36 AM

yes politicians lie. why?
because the people want to be lied to

Sep. 17 2010 10:33 AM
gaetano catelli from greenpoint, brooklyn

why are the 3 major-party candidates for governor all Italian American?

Sep. 17 2010 10:29 AM
Peg

Elect Paladino!!!
He's mad as Hell
and He thinks you're an idiot!

Sep. 17 2010 10:29 AM
antonio from park slope

I agree hjs, I wish though the other party was coming from the left...what happened to the greens?

Sep. 17 2010 10:28 AM
Marielle from Brooklyn

When I heard Paladino on his most recent NPR appearance, ranting about the mosque and the dustcloud, I dismissed him as a kook - and now this kook is the Republican candidate for governor? OMG.

Sep. 17 2010 10:26 AM
bob

Carl Palladino should have said "Gov Patterson judgement was really showing when he joined the Spitzer ballot on who's unfit for office."

Sep. 17 2010 10:25 AM
David from Great Neck

Good to hear Brian again. Where were you?

Sep. 17 2010 10:23 AM

is this a one party state?
is that good for us ?
is it time for a new party to compete with the dem's without all the crazy moral legislation stuff?

Sep. 17 2010 10:22 AM

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