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Inside Tea Party America

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Kate Zernike looks inside the Tea Party movement—where it came from, what it stands for, and what it means for the future of American politics. In Boiling Mad: Inside Tea Party America, she shows how the Tea Party movement emerged and explains that it’s important to understand the movement to understand American politics in 2010 and beyond.

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Comments [30]

KM from Brooklyn

If your guess does not recognize the racist elements of the tea party she is adrift on the river of denile! The fact of the matter about their present day 17th century movement is it paralells the ignorance of the Salem witch hunt!

Sep. 14 2010 10:01 PM
Albion from the Upper West Side

It is kind of scary that much of the Tea Party's ideological foundations is based on 19th century philosophies. I imagine that people who feel out of control of their lives, with one reason being the rapid advancement of technology and the rise of rights for all Americans would want to go back to a time when the railroad was being built and the nation west of the Mississippi was stilled owned and populated by the original peoples. The only positive thing about this movement is just that, it's a movement and like everything else in America, it will quickly fade away either with the end of Obama's last term in 2016 or with the eventual expansion of the economy and the are able to go back to counting their money. God Bless America!!!!!!!!

Sep. 14 2010 01:18 PM
Sandra from Astoria

Oh yeah, I can't wait to live in a country where the rich pay no taxes, the rest of us have to fend for ourselves, there is no social safety net, and the only government program is the military.

There'a already a place like that--it's called THE THIRD WORLD. Maybe the Tea Partyers should visit Haiti for a glimpse of what kind of country they are advocating for.

Sep. 14 2010 01:07 PM
BRAD HEBERLING from manhattan

I hope that her book is not as shallow as this interview. On those few occasions
that I have met with these Conservatives, I always ask for facts.
How are they being screwed? What point in time do they want the country back to? How is the government running their life now as opposed to 10 years ago? I rarely ever even get an answer, They may be "Boiling mad", but they also lack basic knowledge of the government and the Constitution. The media never confronts them and asks for facts.
I ask some one who wants President Oboam to be impeached, but when I asked for an impeachable offense he had committed, They couldn't come up with any specific "crime"
Morons.

Sep. 14 2010 12:46 PM
Phil Henshaw from way uptown

Cynicism may be enthralling, but tearing things apart is not an effective way of running them.

The whole reason we got a big government is our ever expanding society and business world with its exploding complexity (now stuck). That came along with our expansion since1800 by a factor of 1000. That we are now pushing the limits of conflict with nature, all over the world, and also the ability of people to comprehend how to make things work, Government has ever expanding failures of the market system to regulate itself to deal with. It might get a lot worse too.

Have you noticed the TEA party folk, like most everyone, promotes limitless growth, unaware that is exactly where the conflicts and complexity and erupting costs are all coming from...?

Sep. 14 2010 12:46 PM
DarkSymbolist from NYC!

Ms.Zernike is fairly typical of the low bar of the NYT

You are clearly biased Ms.Zernike; why don't you just go join the party, and while you're at it, learn how to be a real journalist and not drink the Kool Aid when reporting on your subject.

If you can't see that this movement is also motivated by a perception on the part of a certain part of the populace who feel they are losing their traditional place of superiority in the power structure of the country, then you really are a moron.

This is the problem with the media, too chickens%$t to face that issue head on.

Down with the New York Times!

Sep. 14 2010 12:38 PM
kent

COME MILES Just don't let rant away. Question something

Sep. 14 2010 12:32 PM
DarkSymbolist from NYC!

Blabety, blabety, blah, blah

She lost all credibility to me when she said we should ignore the obvious racism in this movement. We can understand all this other garbage about this disgusting movement without ignoring the very obvious and significant racist element.

Sep. 14 2010 12:30 PM
Norman from NYC

Media Matters

The New York Times' Tea Party convention coverage continues to be dreadful
February 06, 2010 2:53 pm ET

I'm getting the feeling that if Tea Party conventioneers told the Times' Kate Zernike that the earth was flat she'd run with it.

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201002060015

Sep. 14 2010 12:30 PM
Mickey from Woodside

Does Ms. Zernike disagree with the recent survey that said Tea Partiers are by and large older middle-aged, upper middle class, fairly affluent whites? I believe this, from all the video footage. I think Ms. Zernike is biased in favor of the Tea Party. She's giving them too much credit for knowing what they want and how to get it, and underestimating the influence of all that Koch brothers' and other super-rich, super-conservative money. Freedomworks and those other well-funded private organizations are doing the organizing and funding. And - lastly - why are all these older, affluent Americans so very angry? I'd say it isn't because they're suffering. How about that they just long for the way the U.S. used to be when they were in charge and when non-whites were not so major a part of the demographics of our country. And, oh yes! A black president. They don't like what they see, but they are also woefully ill-educated on why the U.S. is in so much trouble.

Sep. 14 2010 12:30 PM
Dylan from Manhattan

This is rather sophomoric analysis on Ms. Zernicke's part. She would like us to ignore the racism demonstrated at Tea Party rallies and in the rhetoric of its members because "there is racism in every movement?" This is a meaningless argument. So to the contention that the Tea Party leaders have intentionally taken a page from Obama's commuinity organizing strategies. Which ones? Specifically what do you mean or is this all simply supposition? Calling Glen Beck the Tea Party's Oprah is rather weak, pat pop culture analogy that lends nothing to serious inquiry or analysis. Surely one can't ignore the cognitive dissonance or hypocrisy inherent in the noise generated by this movement. How do you address this?

Sep. 14 2010 12:29 PM
The Truth from Becky

They say things like: "we want our Country back" and "we are the true Americans" what are the rest of us? Give me a real answer here.

Sep. 14 2010 12:29 PM
Juli from Skillman, NJ

Does the Tea Party movement not see that the stimulus spending is being done to save us from severe worldwide economic depression. It certainly has stopped our downward spiral, and though it is slow, our economy is actually growing, thanks to that stimulus programs that Obama has enacted.

Sep. 14 2010 12:28 PM
Lloyd from Manhattan

Kate is one of these talking heads who just talk to each other and are wed to the prevailing narrative. None of the tea party Senate candidates will win. Joe Miller in Alaska is a crackpot who will lose to Scott McAdam, the popular and reasonable Mayor of Sitka. Sharron Angle in Nevada, Rand Paul in Kentucky, abd Marco Rubio in Florida are all losing.

Sep. 14 2010 12:25 PM
Tanya from NYC

I appreciate what your guest has had to say about not underestimating the Tea Party movement because there may be racist among them. I would also appreciate if she and others who speak about the President would refer to him as the President or President Obama or President Barack Obama and not as Obama or Barack Obama. Thank you.

Sep. 14 2010 12:25 PM
The Truth from Becky

Very misguided statement to say racism is a non-issue with the tea party members.

I have never seen white people more out of control since President Obama took office. When have you ever seen Americans burn a President current or former in effigy?

Sep. 14 2010 12:24 PM
Norman from NYC

The Tea Party itself will be more successful if they don't talk about what they really stand for.

Sep. 14 2010 12:24 PM
Norman from NYC

These people want to end Social Security. They're crazy.

Isn't that a problem -- a mass (Koch-bankrolled) movement of crazy people who want to end Social Security?

Sep. 14 2010 12:21 PM
Camille

I do wonder whether there is a formal relationship between the Tea Party and any Christian right groups. It seems like the Tea Party has either usurped them or absorbed them...

Sep. 14 2010 12:21 PM
kent

What do you mean we have to understand the Tea Party. No we don't. Your guest makes it sound like she is issuing a warning. Get to know them or else. She also stated firmly that we will have some tea party senators this fall. Well if and when she is wrong will she come back on the show. I bet not. What we have is just another book hawker.

Sep. 14 2010 12:21 PM
Brendan from Upper West Side

Your guest mentioned that the Tea Party was imitating the Left -- I'd say the intraparty division and infighting that the Tea Party has spurred proves her right!

Sep. 14 2010 12:20 PM
kent

What do you mean we have to understand the Tea Party. No we don't. Your guest makes it sound like she is issuing a warning. Get to know them or else. She also stated firmly that we will have some tea party senators this fall. Well if and when she is wrong will she come back on the show. I bet not. What we have is just another book hawker.

Sep. 14 2010 12:20 PM

These people don't seem to be well baked or formed and you cannot deny that the bulk of the people who are attracted to this movement IS racist. Just look at the people who turned up at the Glenn Beck rally.

http://digg.com/news/politics/new_left_media_interviews_participants_at_glenn_beck_s_restoring_honor_rally

Sep. 14 2010 12:19 PM
DarkSymbolist from NYC!

Death to the Tea Party

Your guest is an idiot to dismiss the racism issue completely; it is clearly an element of this disgusting "movement"

Sep. 14 2010 12:19 PM
Sam from Chelsea

As far as I can tell, the Tea Party is just a re-packaged version of the far-right of the Republican Party whether they realize it or not. Can your guest name one specific set of policies where the Tea Party greatly differs from the GOP?

Sep. 14 2010 12:18 PM
The Truth from Becky

Sarah is a quitter. Who needs her. The tea part is with out a doubt a racist movement.

Sep. 14 2010 12:18 PM
Liam from East Elmhurst

Well, the MOB through Organized Labor does it's social contribution, often to Democrats...hmm?

Aye!

Freedom of Speech!

Sep. 14 2010 12:17 PM
Norman from NYC

What about the Bass brothers -- the billionaires who pay for it? http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/opinion/29rich.html

Sep. 14 2010 12:17 PM
Rina from Queens

Please ask your guest who she believes backs a large portion of the Tea Party's financial funding.

Sep. 14 2010 12:14 PM
Liam from East Elmhurst

Keep it simple...Sarah Palin.
Can't get simpler than sweet beautiful Sarah!

In the age of information, it might behoove the Tea Party to see beyond the tip of their noses, though.
I think that American politics are a little too regional.

Eh, it's still good to see active people in politics.
Good luck to them!

Sep. 14 2010 12:12 PM

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