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Who Made It to the Top?

Thursday, August 26, 2010

Maura Walz, reporter at Gotham Schools.org, and Lisa Fleisher, statehouse bureau reporter for the Star-Ledger, discuss why New York will get $700 million in federal "Race to the Top" education funds, while New Jersey lost out.

Guests:

Lisa Fleisher and Maura Walz

Comments [16]

Ed from Larchmont

Christians are not anti-science, the universities were started by the Christians.

Aug. 26 2010 11:23 AM
NYC Teacher from Queens

More data collection and analysis. More pressure on teachers for standardized test scores. Fewer resources. More bureaucracy. I need a new job. I need a new job!! I NEED A NEW JOB.

Aug. 26 2010 10:42 AM
Stephen from Manhattan

Christie is a total hypocrite. Had he lost the election, he'd be out there ranting about the incompetence of government bureaucrats. Suck it up, crybaby, and move on.

Aug. 26 2010 10:32 AM
Josh from Rego Park

Competitive grants is apart of the public funding. NCLB has a mix of formula and competitive money. NSF also has competitive mechanism.

Aug. 26 2010 10:28 AM
Yolande from Staten Island, New York

It sounds to me like this money is going to be wasted on tests, surveys, studies, hiring consultants to give advice. How about providing better books and school supplies ? Building new schools to alleviate crowding ? Provide foreign language instruction beginning in elementary school rather than waiting until junior high or high school.

Aug. 26 2010 10:28 AM
JT from LI

To the caller that just said under Bush's No Child Left Behind every state was eligible: Wasn't that an unfunded mandate? Every state had to comply and no money was given to do it.

Aug. 26 2010 10:26 AM
Laurie from The Upper West Side

Please address how this money represents a paradigm shift in education. I am a parent who came into the system 12 years ago. I currently have four children in NYC public schools. Before mayoral control when my two older children were in elementary school, the teaching model in our school was an enrichment model with attention to skill building contextualized within the curriculum.

I worry that my two younger children, who attend the same elementary school that their older siblings attended, are destined to be products of the drill and kill model. I cannot even keep track of all the testing, assessments and standards data gathering that they are subjected to (even with Aris).

It does seem that the tests take precedence in the schedule over all other instructional time, including IEP mandated services. Special education teachers are not always able to see their mandated students when they are needed for testing.

Aug. 26 2010 10:25 AM
RLewis from the bowery

I agree with Erhard. This doesn't past the smell test. Was NJ trying to pull a fast one? No doubt.

Aug. 26 2010 10:18 AM
kitov from Jersey City

It's standard practice in evaluating grants to make sure that the "I"s are dotted and the "T"s are crossed. This is an indicator as to organizational competence.

But there were bigger problems with the state's application. Race to the Top winners by and large were successful because they demonstrated a political/policy coalition for carrying out the reforms Race to the Top requested and the state applications promised.

Gov. Christie's "slash and burn" approach to his first six months - combined with NJ's historic failure to transcend home rule divisions - is what sunk the application.

Aug. 26 2010 10:17 AM
Inquisigal from Brooklyn

So, NJ didn't proofread their application? They deserve what they didn't get.

Aug. 26 2010 10:17 AM
Phil Henshaw from way uptown

It's so odd, that the declared and legitimate purposes of the "race to the top" have almost nothing to do with what the press and spokespeople for the competitors are talking about. Maybe that's why the decision making seems more about trickery than strategy.

The purposes were not supposed to have anything to do with giving a boost to states doing the best, but to give a boost to states with the most promising experiments others might learn from. The idea was to raise all boats by an efficient means, not play favorites.

Maybe the failure of our education system is demonstrated in that apparent misunderstanding too...

Aug. 26 2010 10:17 AM
Bowery Boy from bowery

NJ's mistake is exactly what you get with Smaller Government.

As population keeps growing and the "haves" keep screaming for smaller govt, there will be much more of this kinda stuff.

NJ's continued under-education is no big deal, but let's hope that it doesn't get to the point where it costs lives.

Aug. 26 2010 10:17 AM
Erhard from Harlem

Brian, could you please ask if whether New Jersey was trying to gain an unfair advantage by submitting 2010-2011 data instead of the required 2007,2008 budget data

Aug. 26 2010 10:11 AM
RLewis from the bowery

"Pick up the phone" ? -Republican's are absolute in the oppostion to special favors... until they need one.

Had he gotten that phone call and had a chance to fix the numbers, then the state that beat out NJ would cry foul.

Christie and his staff should have gotten a better education, and maybe they wouldn't have made such a glaring mistake. Maybe they should've considered a school outside NJ.

Christie blew it. He should just suck it up and move on. Isn't that what republicans keep telling the rest of us to do? Where's the personal responsibility?

Aug. 26 2010 10:11 AM

NY still pays out a lot more to other states. why?

http://www.taxfoundation.org/UserFiles/Image/Blog/ftsbs-large.jpg

Aug. 26 2010 10:10 AM
JRB from Jersey

Gov. Christie's bellyaching is too hypocritical.

As Assembly Speaker Oliver said, “We don’t do that in our own state, allow special dispensation for people who made a mistake when applying. If in our own process there are no do-overs, how can we want one from Washington?”

Aug. 26 2010 10:03 AM

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