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60 Minutes' Benghazi Apology

Tuesday, November 12, 2013

CBS News chief Jeff Fager has called the 60 Minutes report on Benghazi "as big a mistake as there has been" in the program's history. Media Matters for America Senior Fellow and author of  Bloggers on the Bus: How the Internet Changed Politics and the Press (Free Press, 2009), Eric Boehlert, explains why, and describes what was missing from Lara Logan's apology over the weekend.

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Comments [32]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

At least it's not BSNBC.

Yes, that is a "B".

Nov. 13 2013 01:15 AM
david

at least it not Fox News

Nov. 12 2013 10:09 PM
jawbone

CBS with Scott Pelley in the lead seems to have become the Yellow Journalism representative of Getting Our War on Against Syria.

I don't think I can recall Pelley ever referring to the government of Syria as anything other than the "Syrian regime." Our vaunted free press seems to almost always adopt the vocabulary of the administration in power when referring to the kinds of governments the enemies du jour or de l'annee are. Invariably, the chosen term matches that of the power in the WH.

However, while I believe we have not been given the actual story behind what happened in Benghazi --such as the strong possibility our ambassador was also acting for the CIA in arranging to send weaponry and fighters from Libya to Turkey for easy transit into Syria-- I do not believe what Lara Logan reported and I do feel she is a deeply committed cheerleader for getting our military into yet more wars. She is an example of what Christopher Hedges meant by the title of his book, "War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning." (And, no, that is not a good thing.)

I think it is, perhaps. a crime for our administration to have fomented a civil war in Syria. That is surely a huge and lamentable action on the part of our Nobel Peace Prize president.

Nov. 12 2013 07:17 PM
scott

Brian,

You should be nominated for an Oscar or whatever the equivalent radio personality award is for your portrayal of a journalist.

A real journalist would not waste more than a minute attacking another hack journalist over a single source that turned out to be a fraud but would rather look at the story and its unanswered questions. The source for 60 minutes seemed a little shady but the report still raised quite a few questions that George Soro's boy seemed to gloss over quite easily while protecting the administration.

A few questions I would like to see answered include:

Why was there insufficient security for our Ambassador?

Why were his requests for security not taken seriously?

Why did we not do everything in our power to help these American citizens survive the attack when first notified?

Where were Hillary and Obama during the attack? If they were sleeping, who was making decisions? Was this event not important enough to get out of bed for?

Were their phones down during the entire event?

Why were we told that a crappy little movie caused widespread riots for 5 straight days?

Why was the movie maker arrested?

Did the fact that this occurred on 9-11 have any influence on how it was reported to the media? Would the term "terrorist attack" have had a negative impact on the President's reelection campaign?

Would making an honest effort to save our people instead arranging a damage control strategy session been the better thing to do?

Why have the witnesses to the event not been allowed to be interviewed by your crack team of not for profit , totally unbiased, team of journalists?

Have any of your crack reporters tried speaking with any eyewitnesses?

Scott

Nov. 12 2013 04:25 PM

Edward from Washington Heights

Actually context is important in determining offensiveness
Whore is a legitimate English word, of course

Nov. 12 2013 01:14 PM

It seems that the left-wing, journolist, "Amen" choir is attacking Ms. Logan like a wild Tahrir Square mob.

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/12/must_see_morning_clip_sam_waterston_and_stephen_colbert_parody_erroneous_60_minutes_report/

(must be my 1960's PTSD)

Nov. 12 2013 12:39 PM

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights\:

"geTaylor, I thought that a dboy, a boy, calling a woman a "whore" is just the sort of comment that WNYC would find inappropriate."

Are you so sure that "dboy", mentally challenged as his arguments demonstrate, was calling her a "whore" - I thought he called her a "war whore"?

But the comment of "mark from nyc" at Nov. 12 2013 10:43 AM seems to hurl what is, in the absence of any offer of evidence, the most empty of meaningless accusation, I think it's from the same playbook used by Richie Incognito for his "How To Motivate Rookies" course. Even the Washington Post is criticizing her in the most prurient and ignorantly stereotypical ways. (see my comment below at Nov. 12 2013 10:44 AM)

Nov. 12 2013 12:22 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights\

geTaylor, I thought that a dboy, a boy, calling a woman a "whore" is just the sort of comment that WNYC would find inappropriate.

Nov. 12 2013 11:31 AM

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights said:

"I hope the moderators take appropriate action with the post from dboy @ Nov. 12 2013 11:09 AM"

I'm thinkin' that a "Thumbs Down" is sufficient (although I too was hasty in giving it a "red flag".

What I'd like to know is whether the "Press Corp" that covers war uses that term, "war whore", to refer to reporters, of either sex, who seem to overly enjoy the subject of their coverage?

Nov. 12 2013 11:27 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

I hope the moderators take appropriate action with the post from dboy @ Nov. 12 2013 11:09 AM

Nov. 12 2013 11:14 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

RUCB_Alum said:

>>@Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

>>"The Obama adminstration and Hillary Clinton DID blame the Benghazi attack on the idiotic mohammed video."

>WHICH IS WHAT THEY AND SUSAN RICE WERE TOLD TO SAY BY THE INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS!

Sounds like YOU hold Lara Logan to higher standards than you hold Hillary Clinton AND Susan Rice.

Why is that?

Nov. 12 2013 11:11 AM

RUCB_Alum

@Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

"The Obama adminstration and Hillary Clinton DID blame the Benghazi attack on the idiotic mohammed video."

. . .

. . . Where is your anger over having been lied to for years by BushCo over WMD in Iraq? . . . "

And while we're totally off the subject, how did you feel about the "obstruction" call against the Red Sox during this year's World Series?

("What difference, at this point, does it make?")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3bOmey-BE

Nov. 12 2013 11:05 AM
rose-ellen from jackson heights

Lara Logan is not a journalist. She's an anti Muslim war mongering propagandist. The only reason her false narrative was exposed is because the right wing [her cohorts actually]are obsessed with Benghazi[Obama won in spite of their failed attempt to use Benghazi to defeat him but they're still fixated and now want to bring him down by in addition to harping on Benghazi, making a mountain out of a mole hill about the health care web site still under construction]and were hanging on to every word of that piece. All she cared about was that this guy was an Islamophobe war monger and he was good looking. Either factor is sufficient for her to want to do a piece and when both converge as they did in that story, that for her is real success. If CBS does not fire her you can expect more false propaganda from her in the future.

Nov. 12 2013 11:05 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

RUCB_Alum said:

>>"The Obama adminstration and Hillary Clinton DID blame the Benghazi attack on the idiotic mohammed video."

>WHICH IS WHAT THEY AND SUSAN RICE WERE TOLD TO SAY BY THE INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS!

Just following orders?

>Do you really wanna go there?

You bet.

>Where is your anger over having been lied to for years by BushCo over WMD in Iraq

No WMDs in Iraq????????????????????????

Tell that to the Kurds of Halabja Iraq. 5,000 dead in that poison gas, a WMD attack. That was Sadaam Husseins Iraq in 1988.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_chemical_attack

Assad's Syria - 1,000+ dead in another poison gas attack.

Nov. 12 2013 11:04 AM

@Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

"The Obama adminstration and Hillary Clinton DID blame the Benghazi attack on the idiotic mohammed video."

WHICH IS WHAT THEY AND SUSAN RICE WERE TOLD TO SAY BY THE INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS!

Do you really wanna go there? Where is your anger over having been lied to for years by BushCo over WMD in Iraq? You wanna frame the President and the SecState as serial liars over this? Really?? Then you should want to see Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Tenet and Powell drawn and quartered.

Nov. 12 2013 10:55 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

I too watch 60 Minutes. The person I can't stand is Scott Pelley.

I don't watch his segments and he is the reason I no longer watch the CBS Evening News. I now watch NBC.

Nov. 12 2013 10:50 AM

Another front in the "War on Women"?

" . . . Logan’s feminity often attracts as much attention as her reporting; virtually every profile of her mentions that she was once a swimsuit model. On Halloween, people who live in Logan’s neighborhood were startled to see the famous TV correspondent trick-or-treating with her children while dressed in a hot-pink bodysuit costume, set off with high heels. . . . "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/cbs-news-and-reporter-lara-logan-face-brutal-criticism-on-flawed-benghazi-report/2013/11/11/b2f55d8c-4b1f-11e3-ac54-aa84301ced81_story.html

Nov. 12 2013 10:45 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretenious Hudson Heights

The Obama adminstration and Hillary Clinton DID blame the Benghazi attack on the idiotic mohammed video.

Nov. 12 2013 10:44 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Hey, Boehlert, go find that "hurtful video" that little Barry Obama lied about in front of the UN, almost apologized for......when he knew it was a made-up story.

Nov. 12 2013 10:44 AM
mark from nyc

I was in the military and if you want a SCOOP you should investigate what Lara Logan did to get ACCESSS to people and units in-country (AF) !!!

You would not believe it!!! Just find anyone in SF and they will tell you she's legendary (and not in a good way)

Lets just say she sucks up to the military way took much. She's a military groupie. Ask her about the helicopter ride!!

Nov. 12 2013 10:43 AM
antonio from baySide

The media are mostly drones for the corporate state... EVEN NPR.

The Iraq war was based on lies, and the media has never taken the government to task about that...

The melt down. Does anybody really believe a few house flippers and people who couldn't afford some mortgages brought down the economy?

Yesterday, I heard how lobbyists write most legislation which gets voted on in congress...

Nov. 12 2013 10:42 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

"We at Media Matters are in the business of fact checking."

LOL,LOL,LOL,LOL.

Nov. 12 2013 10:41 AM

Oy!!!

The Cole was attacked in 2000 and the embassy bombings were in '98. Not sure how good I feel about her grasp of facts.

Nov. 12 2013 10:40 AM
Robert from NYC

I never liked Lara Logan. I am a 60 Minutes viewer but never watch her stories, I turn it off for her stories. She, like all journalists (ok most), does spin but her spin is dizzying and her voice is as irritating as the voice who does those little "supporters' commercials" on WNYC in the morning between segments. I think she should be fired. I think she should go back to wherever she originated.

Nov. 12 2013 10:40 AM
Jim

The guest thinks that it was incomprehensible that CBS would stand by their story for twelve days. Fair enough, but what about the President sticking to his ridiculous YouTube Video story for 12 days? Here is a link to Obama misleading the UN General Assembly 12-days after he knew that the Benghazi incident was a pre-planned al-Queda affiliated terrorist attack: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcXjhikIz6o.

Nov. 12 2013 10:40 AM

I know the topic is pretty much beyond the pale, but -

Why is the curiosity of "THE MEDIA" only insatiable when the current Fakir-In-Chief or his minions are not the focus of the story? Who can tells us the name of the person who ordered the "stand-down" from any attempt to send aid to the Benghazi diplomatic personnel? Where was the POTUS when that decision was made, and what if any input did he make on that course of action? Contrary to the administration's "pooh-poohing" there is a great deal of interest in what presidential flack catchers seek to hide under the dismissive "nobody wants to know about the tic-tock" mantra.

I am still unclear about what Ms. Logan's journalistic "Faux pas" has to do with "right wing" biases. Are those bogey-men somehow trying to maximize their profits on the sales of the book (or its Netflix rights) that the poser was hawking?

Or was this prior statement her actual "crime":

"“When I look at what’s happening in Libya, there’s a big song and dance about whether this was a terrorist attack or a protest,” she said. “And you just want to scream, ‘For God’s sake, are you kidding me?’ The last time we were attacked like this was the USS Cole, which was a prelude to the 1998 embassy bombings, which was a prelude to 9/11. And you’re sending in the FBI to investigate? I hope to God that you are sending in your best clandestine warriors who are going to exact revenge and let the world know that the United States will not be attacked on its own soil, its ambassadors will not be murdered and the United States will not stand by and do nothing about it.”

". . . then they came for WNYC but no one was left to help"

[Did I just hear the guest abandon the entire hyped premise of the story before launching into a rant comparing Logan to the Dan Rather (which he continued to defend as "inaccurate but true" even after he was forced to "retire"?)

Nov. 12 2013 10:38 AM

Are mercenaries generally trustworthy ?

As for CBS, the marketplace loves this hair on fire stuff. When will the public demand better information or do most of us just don't care any more.

Nov. 12 2013 10:37 AM
BERNIE from NYC

I happen to like Lara Logan but on has to wonder if the attack she experienced in Egypt several years ago hasn't colored her objectivity as to terrorism.

Nov. 12 2013 10:34 AM

Lara Logan, "journalist"…

pathetic.

Nov. 12 2013 10:34 AM

@Jim

Really don't see how the President's overstating the continuation of coverage and doctors that would occur under Obamacare compares to a lie about WMD in Iraq but apparently you do...so be it.

Nov. 12 2013 10:20 AM
Jim

@RUCB

Are you going to give the Whitehouse a "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval" for its relentless obfuscations and misstatements? Jay Carney makes Ari Fleischer look honest.

Nov. 12 2013 10:02 AM

1)Please cover three or four things that a modern consumer of media reporting *should* do before accepting a story as 'the truth'.

2) Which outlets have proven themselves to be the most/least accurate? FoxNews/MSNBC? NYT or Wall St Journal? Breitbart/Daily KOS?

3)What sanctions are appropriate for organizations that consistently misreport or misrepresent stories? Is there an equivalent to the 'Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval' that an organization can lose? Does the FCC have a role to play in journalistic truth-telling or is this a First Amendment area?

Nov. 12 2013 08:56 AM

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