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Friday, September 11, 2009

John Farmer, 9/11 Commission senior counsel, explains how the truth of 9/11 was obfuscated by a false version of events that the government presented to Congress, the 9/11 Commission, and the media. Drawing on newly released records, Farmer gives a comprehensive account of the events of that day in The Ground Truth: The Untold Story of an America Under Attack on 9/11.

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bruce

More on Israel clandestine operations in US are revealed in a recent book by Mossad turncoat Victor Ovstrovsky,By Deception Ye Shall Wage War.
Minimum US should do is put ALL these mideast countries in one catagory of "HOSTILES",and register the Israel Lobby AIPAC as an agent for a Foreign country.
Countries do not have friends,ONLY interests!

Sep. 14 2009 09:37 PM
bruce

Getting kinda bored w/#33 Edward from Washington Heights

I recommend interested parties to vist: www.ussliberty.org
An attack on the US in another era.34 Americans dead 171 wounded.Earlier Israel attempt to trick US into war.

Google search the Lavon Affair or Operation Susannah.US targets firebombed by Israel operatives in Muslim countries.
Both black flag operations intended to influence US MID EAST POLICY.

Finally how much this has cost the US TAXPAYER:

According to the Christian Science Monitor,the cost of Israel to the American TAXpayer has been over $1.6 TRILLION since 1973.http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Sep. 13 2009 12:59 PM
bruce

#33 Edward from Washington Heights
Only you are obssesed with Saudis,Syrians,Iraqis,ect..
Gives us a number of Israeli casualities in Twin towers attacks.I believe there were Israeli firms in towers..It's a curious thing!
I bring this up because none can bring to the forefront their losses like Israel.Usually repeated into infinitum...That little "guy" Ahmadiniajad really gets to you.Gays?? well see Orthodox Judaism,Hassidim lets say.What are their views on the subject??Their woman have to sit in DA Back of De bus for Pete's Sake!!...Double standard on tolerance seems to me...,Getting bored zzzzzz

Sep. 13 2009 12:40 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

#31 bruce,

You asked how many Israelis died in the 9/11 attacks.

You seem to be unfamiliar with the Internet.

Try this...

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memorial/lists/by-country/page110.html

After reading the page, please tell us how many Saudis (not counting the hijackers), Syrians, Iraqis, Iranians died in the 9/11 attacks.

Sep. 13 2009 04:28 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

More bad news for you bruce...

Last week in the UK, 3 men (Abdulla Ahmed Ali, Assad Sarwar and Tanvir Hussain) were found guilty of plotting to blow up passenger planes with liquid explosives. Don't worry bruce, they'll probably get out of jail after a few years on "compassionate grounds" (oil contracts and money), as scotland did for the 1988 bomber of Pan Am 103 who killed 270 people (189 Americans).

A messianic, fundamentalist state with nukes?

The Ayatollah controlled iranian regime is hell bent on bringing back their messiah, the "12th imam" ASAP, no matter what the price, hence their nuke program.

The bit of bad news for you is that the Iranian people are clearly unhappy with the Ayatollah regime.

Remember when the little president of the iranian regime spoke at Columbia University and said that there are no gay people in iran as there are in the West, and the entire audience laughed in his face? Maybe he meant there are no LIVE gay people as the iranian regime routinely executes gay people.

I'm glad that you acknowledge that hamas and hezbuallh dress as civilians. How many "civilian" deaths are REAL civilians and how many were hamas/hezbullah combatants? The Geneva Conventions have a bit to say about
combatants who do NOT wear uniforms.

Does al qada respect or target REAL civilians?

Sep. 13 2009 04:17 AM
bruce

Edward from Washington Heights
Wants to know:
BTW bruce, are any of the 19 identified hijackers of 9/11 still alive?

I believe the 19th is in prison.
Ok, more intersting.
Israel conducts extensive spying in US.
Aided by homegrown sympathisers(AIPAC
's Rosen and Weisman were brought up on espionage charges recently).Israeli operatives had some of 9/11 hijackers under surviellance and lived in apartments nearby.Never was any information passed on to US Officials.Why?Scores of Israeli nationals were quickly deported after attacks.How come?
Judith Miller formerly of NY Times and a major instigator for attack on Iraq turns out to have had Israeli intelligence opertives stay at her home overnight .Is that worth looking into or what?.Boston's airport security was run by an Israeli firm.Have they been investigated???How many Israelis died in the twin towers? Many countries have stated the number of lives lost.
How come not Israel???
Maybe Edward can gives us a number....

Sep. 12 2009 07:46 PM
bruce

#23 Edward from Washington Heights:
"Sadly for the enemies of Israel, the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of WW2 Europe"
You said a mouthful,and finally waving the blue and white.
Nothing like a messiahnic fundamentalist state with 200 WMD and a persecution complex!
JESUS!!!(Is that offensive??)
Where to start.......
First.
India and Pakistan did not have a Nuclear war. They had a conventional war over Kashmir.
Oh, yes Hamas,Hizbollah do not wear uniforms,no army,as in Hagganah,Irgun,Stern Gang.Israel kills civillians nevertheless.
Using phosphorous shells in a densely poulated area like recent attack on Gaza in 2008 is a war crime.You might rationalise,but it's still a war crime. Israeli military doctrine always targetted the non Jewish poulation.That is the best way to get them to flee.Do some reading,Benny Morris,Israel Shahak.Both Israeli.Or you can still buy into mythology.
Iran Iraq war.Instigated by US.
Children clearing minefields,shame.
I betcha it does not bother you that the IDF has a directive to shoot Palistinian boys over the age of 13.Uniform or no uniform.

My problem is the US taxpayer has been *underwriting this belligerent ethnocentric(others would call superamcist) behavior that is going rabid,has spied on the US and has even killed Americans.The Israel lobby has been too eager openly and covertly to spill US blood and treasure for a foreign country.This is undue influence.

According to the Christian Science Monitor,the cost of Israel to the American TAXpayer has been over $1.6 TRILLION since 1973.http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Sep. 12 2009 07:21 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

BTW bruce, are any of the 19 identified hijackers of 9/11 still alive?

Sep. 12 2009 05:30 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

bruce of #26 and #27

You also forgot the near nuclear war between India and Pakistan, another deadly dispute over land - Kashmir.

You forgot the brutal 8 year Iraq/Iran war and the Iranian regimes use of children to clear mine fields

You forgot the death fatwa against Salman Rushdie for writing a book of fiction "The Satanic Verses"

The death fatwas against Hirsi Ali, the murder of Theo Van Gogh, the deadly riots over Mohammad cartoons.

BTW bruce, what uniform do hamas and hizbullah wear to distinguish themselves from REAL civilians - or do hamas and hizbullah purposely wear civilian clothing to hide amongst REAL civilians? And is a dead "civilian" a
REAL civilian or a terrorist dressed as a civilian?

If Israel has 200+ nuclear bombs, that is something the neighboring enemies of Israel should consider before attacking Israel with WMDs.

Sadly for the enemies of Israel, the Israelis are NOT the unarmed Jews of WW2 Europe.

Sep. 12 2009 05:17 PM
bruce

#23 Edward from Washington Heights.

Hey if you are looking for "WMD" in mideast there are about 200 in this place called Dimona.
About 20 years ago turncoat US Navy anylyst stole top secret US targetting coordinates for the former USSR and other European capitols.

Hmmm, recpient country weren't Iraq,no,no, not Iran either!!!
Well that country says they will not be first to introduce WMD.
Phew!!! What a relief...We can ALL sleep well,ZZZZZZZZZ

Sep. 12 2009 04:17 PM
bruce

#23 Edward from Washington Heights.

You keep proving my point,thanks.
What you bring up has never been not been in the forefront.
Mideast suicide bombing came out of Israel's 19 year occupation of Southern Lebanon(20,000 dead)IDF routinely used US made
cluster bombs against the civilian
poulation there.A violation of the US Arms export Act.You see Israel ignores
US Laws.
See The
lobby stranglehold on this nation's mideast foreign policy.There was no Hizbollah before that point.They are here now Pal! If you think they just apeared out of
thin air,well you know the rest.

Hey, Praise THE LORD,
and pass the Amunition..........

Sep. 12 2009 04:05 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

#24 bruce, I can not explain your forgetfulness regarding the bombing of the USS Cole, Khobar Towers, 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center, the bombing of the buses and the Underground in London, the bombing of Pan Am 103, the WMD poison gassing of the Kurds of Halabja - 5,000 died.

Can you?

Sep. 12 2009 03:41 PM
bruce

#23 Edward from Washington Heights.
How can any of what you state be forgotten???
It's has been brought out for the public more often than not.What the American taxpayer should be curious about is the info. that is not being discussed.
BTW,are we all ready for the next premtive attack.2 wars and the same Lobby pushing for a thierd.US taxpayer will be footing the bill.....
It's WMD?...Again Folks!
Reports from an undisputed middle east "source"

Sep. 12 2009 12:56 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

#19 bruce, you forgot to mention a few things.

Ramzi Yusuf
The 1993 truck bombing of the WTC resulted in Life sentences for several people, among them the "blind sheik" and Mr. Yusuf.

The August 1998 bombings of two US embassies in Africa resulted in the deaths of hundreds of Africans.

The October 2000 suicide bombing of the USS Cole in the Yemen port of Aden resulted in the deaths of 17 American sailors.

Zacarias Moussaoui - the 20th hijacker of the 9/11 attack
In April 2005, Moussaoui pled guilty to six charges against him related to his participation in the 9/11 conspiracy. In May 2006, he was sentenced to life in prison. I doubt that Moussaoui will be freed early on "compassionate" grounds ($$$) as our "friends" in scotland did.

FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/fugitives.htm

BTW, what's the deal with the 9/11 "Truthers"? How many theories do they dream up? Radio controlled planes, planes with no windows, planes with bomb pods under the wings, NO PLANES (CGI)!, seven still "alive" hijackers.

Before 9/11, when a plane was hijacked, passengers expected to end up ALIVE in Cuba, or Lybia, or some other dumb country - not as hostages on a suicide mission. The passengers on flight 93 found out what was happening on 9/11 thanks to cellphones/Airphone and did whatever they could to thwart the hijackers jihad. Sadly they all perished but their heroic deeds saved the lives of hundreds elsewhere.

Sep. 12 2009 02:41 AM
Mike from MADhattan

Jason... you have done your homework. Be careful with spreading these truths... you might be charged with a hate crime under the proposed Hate Crime Bill about to be passed!

Sep. 11 2009 03:46 PM
R Gillis from Brooklyn, NY

Am I the only one who remembers the notebooks from the two Columbine "Trenchcoat Mafia" kids? How they wanted to hijack a couple of airliners and fly them into the World Trade Center towers and drew several pictures depicting this scenario?

Sep. 11 2009 01:51 PM
Vic from Chester, NJ

How could these 2 massive towers collapse at nearly free-fall speed neatly into their own footprints... Misdirection?
I don't believe I'll be reading,
"The Ground Truth."

Sep. 11 2009 01:35 PM
bruce

One of the 19 September 11 hijackers was a Lebanese named Ziad Al Jarrah.
Recently reported by the National in the gulf state of the UAE,Lebanese security officials arrested Ali Al Jarrah for spying for Israel for the last 25 years.
Interesting here Y'all,is Ali Al Jarrah was the cousin of Ziad Al Jarrah..Man! what are the chances....?????
Furthermore,the Lebanese were able to arrest this longtime Mossad operative using new equipment provided by the US.What?
Another tidbit rarely mentioned is that security in Boston airport was handeled by an Israeli firm.Muslim profiling is the staple of Israeli security services.Private Israeli security companies are started by ex Israeli state security "experts".Hmmm...!!Then there's that horrible quote or slip of the tongue by Bibbi Netanyahou,that: "9/11 worked for Israel"
We can go back to the 1967 Israeli attack by unmarked planes,on the USS Liberty which slaughtered 34 US servicemen.
The primary reason was to sink the unarmed American ship with all hands and pin the blame on Egypt ensuing into a US attack on that country.US planes were scrambled and recalled????You can go back to the 1950's Israeli black flag operation Susannah.It can be goggled......

My contention is there are outside actors.
Especially when all the pieces fall so neatly into place.
Two wars with a third in offing Folks!!!

Sep. 11 2009 12:43 PM
hjs from 11211

Jason 15
good one!

Sep. 11 2009 12:42 PM
Mike from MADhattan

John Farmer, 9/11 Commission senior counsel, explains how the truth of 9/11 was obfuscated by a false version of events that the government presented to Congress, the 9/11 Commission, and the media.

That sentence alone implicates the gov't perjured itself. Lock it up!

What about all the private sector videos of the pentagon "attack" that were immediately confiscated, have been held and not released since? What is being hidden?

Sep. 11 2009 12:35 PM
Ted from NJ

As if NPR would risk losing their funding by asking hard questions. I'm disappointed, but not surprised

Sep. 11 2009 12:35 PM
Jason from Midtown

i wonder who would be labelled crazier... someone that believes there may be some sort of conspiracy to the 9/11 attacks, or someone that believes an imaginary being talks to him at night and can perform miracles like preventing 9/11... only that this imaginary being doesnt prevent things like 9/11.

Sep. 11 2009 12:34 PM
Ted from NJ

Operation Northwoods?

Sep. 11 2009 12:32 PM
Chris from LES

Operation Northwoods.
Lack of debris at the pentagon.
Lack of BODIES in Shanksville, PA.
Controlled demolition of WTC.
Building #7 falling hours later.

Come on - give us a valid explanation.

Sep. 11 2009 12:31 PM
Ted from NJ

What does Farmer have to say about the 700+ architects and structural engineers that say that there's no way that those building collapsed due to fire?!

Sep. 11 2009 12:30 PM
Mike from MADhattan

How can this guy say that no one could've imagined the scenario as it played out?? He sounds like Condi Rice. The are NUMEROUS gov't docs that prove that they HAD thought of these scenarios and had exercises previously!!!

Sep. 11 2009 12:27 PM
Jared the Tour Guide Goldstein from Lower East Side

Also, I've counted about 30 Military Drills scheduled or rescheduled for 9/11/01 according to the Complete 9/11 Timeline at

http://www.historycommons.org .

Sep. 11 2009 12:24 PM
Gerald from Queens

Thats not true Leonard .there was the revelation of a plot to fly a plane into the Effil Tower in 1995

Sep. 11 2009 12:24 PM
Peter from New York City

The 9/11 Report said that the two F 16's that were launched on 9/11 headed toward the Soviet Union, as they had been trained. On a flight from Paris in June I met a woman whose daughter is a senior Air Force officer, her specialty being nuclear weapons. 50 years of Cold War seems to have left us totally unprepared for Bin Laden.

Sep. 11 2009 12:24 PM
Jared the Tour Guide Goldstein from Lower East Side

I'm curious if Operation Able Danger is discussed on air or in the book. Also, Sibel Edmonds has some interesting things to add.

It seems to me that blocking the investigation is felonious, yet no one has been held accountable for the failures on 9/11/01.

Sep. 11 2009 12:21 PM
hjs from 11211

leonard sounds like a "truther" and there's no place for people like that!!!!!

Sep. 11 2009 12:21 PM
Harvey Bernstein from Yonkers, NY

Is the author aware of John O'Neill? He was an ex-FBI agent in the counter-intelligence branch with wide contacts in the Terrorist community. He was hounded out of the FBI for sounding the alarm.

Ironically, he took the job as head of security at WTC. He told a friends that he expected to be attacked. He died at his post on 9/11

Sep. 11 2009 12:20 PM
Arthur from Edison, NJ

I cannot shake my belief that flight 93 was shot down. I have this impression because of a news story I watched on a BBC newscast shortly after 9/11 which stated this and which showed a radar map of the flight of the plane which veered sharply after it was hit by missiles. Obviously I have never seen this news report again. The early report of this by VP Cheney further makes me wonder. I guess I will go to my grave harboring doubts.

Sep. 11 2009 12:19 PM
stuart from nyc

I'm waiting for the discussion on the vaildity of conspiracy theories, and what the public has yet to be told...

Sep. 11 2009 12:16 PM
Gerald from Queens

I am sorry but they have been hijacking and using planes as weapons since the 1960's . There were more sophisticated security and theft prevention systems on a $20,000 car then on a multi million dollar airplane. only AFTER 911 did they spend the money to harden the doors and put a peephole into the cockpit doors? NO money for video surveillance in the passenger cabin but they had the money to install flat screen TV's on ever seat?
Give me a break

Sep. 11 2009 12:16 PM
Jason from Midtown

hm. he lost all credibility when he said the 9/11 report was "excellent."

Sep. 11 2009 12:09 PM

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