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Just wanted to add weight that there is a singluar proper noun Internet but there are indeed many internets. Technically defined, an internet is two or more connected networks. In particular sensitive military and government computers that are networked but not with the outside world can said to be part of an internet.
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Not necessarily pertinent, but in French, "moment charnier" (hinge moment) is very, very common.
Re "internets", it is indeed always used tongue in cheek. As are "interweb", "interwebs", "intertubes"...
Rick Warren did mean to say hinge-point, not lynch-pin. When I was in Guatemala last year the tour guide, who was very well informed and articulate, told us many times that the culture of the indigenous people was at a "hinge-point" of its history because evangelist christian missionaries were moving mayan religion away from catholicism, which had allowed indigenous traditions to persist. "Hinge-point" waas the term she used. It stayed in my mind because I had never heard it before.
To Sophie. Had Hillary won Bill would probably still have been Mr. President for the most part but the term most likely would be "First Gentleman". This seems pretty obvious once you've seen or heard it used. I'm embarrassed to admit it but I got that from looking at the Cast credits for this season of 24. They have a woman President this season.
Rick Warren definitely said hinge point and it made sense in context. I don't think he meant lynchpin-- a device that is integral to holding things (ie., the status quo) together. Rather, I referred to the inauguration as a moment when we were are bending toward the future. The term is used in physics and there are hardware screws called hinge points.
BTW I am in my 30's, and I still know when to use "me," and not "I" or "myself." People hear sloppy language, and then they pick it up, and then language becomes sloppier.
Thank You Mrs. Helen Greene, English teacher, Kansas City, MO. (i am sure she is deceased by now). She taught us this simple method to use personal pronouns, etc. as subjects and objects. "You and i will go to the store". Both pronouns can be used as subject, you can construct two sentences that make sense. "Bob gave the tickets to Roger and me" both objects of prep. can be used separetely in sentences that make sense. singer/song-writers like to say you and i, or, you and me -- Mrs. Greene said this was artistic/poetic license when used incorrectly, but not for us !!!
Re "hinge point," the phrase "hinge event" is in use, meaning, as far as I can tell, "a key moment/cause of change."
I love this segment. The term hinge pin was discussed today. I think I can add to the discussion. Its meaning is "to go in 2 different directions" as seen in the hinge of a swinging door. I believe that was what was meant.
The WNYC "most unique" blurb drives me crazy too.
What about Obama's use of a construction like this? The goal of the American people is is to xyz. He frequently adds the second IS, I think as a means of deformalizing his speech. Surely he doesn't write this way.
Unrelated to Obama, I also note the rise of the expression BACK IN The DAY, instead of BACK IN THE DAYS when ...
Rev Warren certainly meant "hinge point" not "lynch pin" as the context suggested the moment of change -- a notion for thinking about history made popular by Thomas Cahill's series "Hinges of History", including How the Irish Saved Civilization and others.
The Con Ed ad phrase "On It" that I see often on the subway makes me feel crazy. Sometimes I think I know what it's supposed to mean and sometimes, when I ponder it, i understand nothing.
There are hundreds of internets. Companies, Universities and State Governments all have their own networks that by themselves are classified as an internet. When they are all linked together they are considered the internet but could also be classified as internets.
Obama is good, but not perfect: he said "enormity" instead of the correct "enormousness" in his victory speech on November 4, 2008, and he said "can't help but" instead of the correct either "can't but..." or "can't help" in his Inauguration oration yesterday.
@Steve , perhaps the intelligence/military communities also have access to an internet (or internets) that the rest of us don't have access to. So yet another internet, or internets.
just one nit-picking point - it's BarAHK Obama
not BARRack obama - re Pat
One that writes columns is called a ... (ist or nist)
The I/me/myself thing is deeply irksome to me! As is the "is is" thing. Ugh.
But I wanted to mention my delight in hearing Obama use the word, "swill" in his address. Good word!
Did I really just hear Patricia O'Conner pronounce the President's first name as BAIR-uk -- BBC-style -- three times in the course of about 15 seconds?
I myself can't bear the use of the inappropriate term "myself" when "me" is indicated, and I am more or less in Barack Obama's generation. If it has to do with generation, I am "old school!"
FYI, Ms. O'Conner,
President O'Bama's first name is pronounced with the stress on the second syllable, in which the a takes the "ah" sound. It does NOT rhyme with barrack as in military barracks (the way certain conservative talk radio hosts and commentators pronounce it).
Alas, "decider" has entered the language. I frequently hear people use it with no irony.
It is now the Internets. I exclusively use the internets now. Not only as a Bushism but because the internet is too big to be singular. It should be plural and be the internets. Go Obama!!!
(I believe the singular for miscellanea is "This thing here.")
There are in fact more than one Internet! There's a new Internet called Internet2 that's being used solely by research institutions et al to bypass the bandwidth clogging of the original Internet, so one can, indeed, speak legitimately of "Internets."
Patricia T. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ask Leonard to get that WNYC funding blurb OFF THE AIR.
The announcer says:...Time Magazine says it is most unique. I say: Time Magazine said 'Most Unique' Where are the editors? Why does WNYC repeat theis poor useage?
Do waht you can.
Love your monthly segment.
To me, the most annoying word that it seems George W. Bush has popularized during his 'realm' is the simple word 'tuh.' Of course, this is the word 'to' that has been brought down to the level of finding a dog hair on ones tongue and politely spitting it out. It would be fine with me if only Mr. Bush used it but 'tuh' seems to now be everywhere including spat out by NPR reporters and anchors.
Meanwhile, my favorite political word is 'mugwump'. I won't elaborate here, it's in the book...
Have you noticed the construction I hear frequently: "The problem is, is that....", or "The reason is, is that...."? Is this another way of filling a pause, like 'um'?
N.B. "Internets" is always used sarcastically.
What is the difference between the hyphen and the dash - since they look the same - and where is the dash well used?
Wasn't it Lincoln who said "with chalice towards none"? (And you thought Leonard's puns make you squirm....)
If past presidents have added new words to the English language, can't one argue that Bush invented new uses for old words?
The translation of Madame Bovary that I read seemed very Flaubertian in its crystal clarity, but its generous use of hyphens was distracting. "Ash-tree," for example.
The derivation of the word augur is uncertain; ancient authors believed that it contained the words avi and gero --Latin for "directing the birds"--but historical-linguistic evidence points instead to the root aug-, "to increase, to prosper."so says Wikipedia
A horrible usage took hold during the campaign -- "growing" the economy. Even Obama, when commenting on dividing the economic pie, said he would "grow the pie." Much as I love Obama, I wanted to scream, "No! Pies don't grow on trees!"
The sentence "These are the indicators of crisis, subject to data and statistics" sounded awkward to me. What he meant by that phrasing is clear, but it seemed an inartful way to put it.
Indicators ARE data.And data are subject to "statistical analysis."
Auger means to drill a hole in the ground to set a pole or post. Perhaps inaugurate is related in the sense of "setting the pillar" or to "establish".
is "emboldened" a bushism? I really hate that word, sounds fake like "embigens".
Sorry, I got another call I had to take.
My question is when did we stop saying "in any event," and start saying "in THE event"??
Leonard's on today; psyching out that the quotee meant chalice instead of gauntlet was really slick.
I have young children
1 child uses the word "fullhanded" instead of hands are full (opposite of empty handed)
also now kids use verses as a verb
"Who are we versing today??"
Instead of playing today
I think George W. Bush reintroduced the work "folks." I noticed him using it in the beginning of his presidency and the next thing you know it seemed everyone was using it.
Is there a word for when you hear a word, or a name, or a song 2 or 3 times in a day or 2 when, previously, you have not heard that word for years?
With all the references yesterday to the First Lady, I wondered what Bill Clinton's title would have been, had Hillary won the election.
Did you notice how little Barack Obama used the word "I" and "me"? Even going so far as to thank his listeners for the "trust bestowed."
It's not word coinage, but I bet in the long-haul his linguistic style makes a huge difference in society...
would being handed a wet gauntlet be a slap in the face?
Good thing Leonard got his pun in early!
I've noticed the use of "unchartered territory" instead of "uncharted territory" including in an ad spot on the News Hour with Jim Lehrer broadcast on WNYC AM at 11pm. Is it just a mispronounciation?
The President's insistance on speaking in full sentences is clearly elitist.
Am I imagining it, or is Obama droppin' the'g' more than usual. I just read that writing without the terminal 'g' is called a 'lipogram'.
What is the oral form called?
So, now that Obama's catch phrase "Yes, We Can" has been adopted into "Yes, We Did", I have been hearing that it is grammatically incorrect. Instead, it should be "Yes, we were able to". Is that true?
I would like to hear Patricia's thoughts on the slip up in Justice Roberts' delivery of the oath...when he moved the word "faithfully" was the grammar still correct?
At the end of the swearing in of President Obama, the Chief Justice asked, "So help *you* God?" with emphasis on the you, so Obama was not thereby supposed to repeat Roberts but rephrase with the first person "me," even though the rest of the oath is in the first person on both sides... wasn't that somewhat strange, especially given the other slip-ups in the oath? Or a perfectly legitimate flourish to round things up? N.B. not in the original oath, but an ab-lib by Washington, I believe, and subsequently repeated by most (but not all) Presidents traditionally. So perhaps the incoming President-elect should always "ad-lib" it, so at least he/she has the choice whether or not to invoke a God he/she may or may not believe in.
Tim Geithner is so sure of confirmation as Treasury secretary, he's organizing an Obama Administration baseball team--the Tax Dodgers.
Can Ms. O'C comment on the following?
Amongst other peeves that I cannot recall at the moment, one that bugs me and hurts my ears is the recent tendency of people to refer to themselves as "myself" instead of "me" or "I".
Also -- a smaller word choice complaint -- the lazy use of "hard" instead of "difficult" and "whole" instead of "entire."
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