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Many of America's forests, coasts, and valleys have given way to strip malls and subdivisions. Bruce Babbitt says we need to think about the future of land use in US. He served as secretary of the interior from 1993 to 2001, and his new book is Cities in the Wilderness.

Music: Knuddelmaus, by Ulrich Schnauss; Fallout, by Euphone, and "Pole Tricks" by Japancakes