Earth Month: Offshore and Cap and Trade

Thursday, April 01, 2010

Earth Day turns forty this month, and The New York Times writer for the Dot Earth blog and author Andrew Revkin joins us every Thursday to discuss the environment.

Today's Topic: The Obama administration's decision to open up offshore drilling, the future of Cap and Trade, and the move to the Opinion Column of the Times.


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Comments [8]

Douglas from Newark, NJ

How delightful is it that the Supreme Court just handed you your April Fool's Joke!

Murray Hill all the way!

Apr. 01 2010 11:54 AM
Phil Henshaw from ny ny

Andy's asking the right question with wondering why people can't relate to climate in the same way they relate to other risks and choices. I've studied aspects of that for many years. Part of it is a cognitive gap in our minds between things we think of as being changeless and things we think of as changeable.

Everything but everything in the physical world is in a process of evolutionary change, though, so thinking of anything as changeless is an "error" in a sense. There's still a huge conceptual challenge to understand the different kinds of change on such a wide range of scales.

One thing I found, to base a general systems physics of change on, is that the organization of systems at all scales changes by different processes, but following the same basic sequence of beginning and ending progressions, ¸¸¸.• ¯ ¯ •.¸¸¸ which can be followed as a natural narrative of change, a "classic story line".

Apr. 01 2010 11:13 AM
Misa from Goshen, NY

The rate of reinforcement that we humans receive isn't strong enough to maintain the behaviors of recycling, consuming less, and buying vehicles that are more fuel-efficient. Well okay, maybe that last one is more reinforcing as long as one likes doing math to calculate MPG. Slogging through and sorting out my recyclables isn't "fun" for me and it's a challenge to keep the long view in mind if I'm not rewarded for my efforts.
Perhaps the media could chip in and let us know how we're doing. If Pat Kiernan cheerfully kept us up to date every morning on how we're doing re: eco-issues, I'd bet things might turn around. People need to want to contribute!

Apr. 01 2010 11:09 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

To clarify my comment above, blogs are nothing more than lazy journalism for casual readers and if Mr. Revkin wants to be taken seriously and wants the state of the environment to be taken seriously (especially with all of the naysayers we have), then denigrating it to yet another blog just trivializes it and buries it in the noise of trend media.

Apr. 01 2010 11:02 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

So eventually the Times won’t be a journalistic document, just a (in the words of the guest) cobbled together blog and opinion site?

I think hard news with journalistic integrity is needed more than someone’s opinions…

Apr. 01 2010 10:58 AM
kai from NJ-NYC

Either a real cap, as Revkin states, or possibly an inescapable tax could work. Of course, call anything a tax in the contradictory and foolhardy USA of 2010, it won't pass.

Questions for Revkin: Has the Earth Blog moved to the Opinion side in part due to America's increasing denial and disputation of science?

Apr. 01 2010 10:55 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn NY

Maybe Andrew Revkin can comment on the stories that the science writers/editors at the Times are skeptical about climate change.

Apr. 01 2010 10:53 AM
JP from NJ

If the US government does not actually drill for oil and the oil is 100% privately drilled because the US oil is not nationalized (say like Venezuelan oil is) and all the oil drilled in the US goes right into the international oil commodities market, please ask how more drilling could even remotely reduce our dependence on foreign oil? Would we not have to increase our oil production like 10 fold or even a crazier amounts to flood the oil market to even begin to reduce our dependency? When drive up to a gas pump you have 3 buttons of octane levels to choose from. Where’s the “gasoline from US oil wells only” button? So how can it not be that more drilling will just make Exxon and the likes more money and nothing else? Or are Republicans advocating we nationalize our oil which would clearly be advocating for a more socialist policy?

Apr. 01 2010 10:27 AM

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