The Brian Lehrer Show Published by The Brian Lehrer Show The Ravitch Plan Listen 35 min Queue Download this audio Want to embed this player? Use the code below. More info. <iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="130" width="100%" src="https://www.wnyc.org/widgets/ondemand_player/wnyc/#file=/audio/json/32735/&share=1"></iframe> Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Email a Friend Senior fellow for Tax and Budgetary Studies at the Manhattan Institute and director of the Empire Center for New York State Policy, E.J. McMahon and deputy director and chief economist at the Fiscal Policy Institute, James Parrott discuss Lt. Gov. Richard Ravitch's plan to borrow money to solve current fiscal problems, as well as his long-term reforms for the budget process.