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NY State Police: A History

Tuesday, March 09, 2010

WNYC reporter Bob Hennelly helps place the scandal around Governor Paterson in the context of the state police's rocky history.

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Comments [18]

DAT573 from torresd268@hotmail.com

The only ones, that should put Paterson out,
are the voters.

Paterson should run for governor in November,
and let the voters decide whether or not they
want him or not.

Not Mortimer Zuckerman,
not Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr.

Not Cuomo, with his conflict of interest
investigation.

There seems to be a parade of wealthy,
politically powerful people out for
Paterson.

Nothing, revealed so far, should be
enough to force Paterson from office,
or prevent him from running again.

Under Mayor Koch, the City was for Sale,
according Jack Newfield.

I didn't hear the NY Daily News, nor
the NYTIMES calling for Koch to get kicked
out.

Mar. 09 2010 11:55 AM
aliveinNJn from New Jersey

It is noteworthy that today's host is so palpably dismissive of Governor Paterson and Bob Henley has sounded personally aggrieved. To Peter from Sunset Park's point, "African American leaders" from New York have called for the governor's head and non-"African American leaders from New York" have. . . . Well, I don't know what they have done. Peter, do they have the same obligation for give a knee-jerk reaction, or is that a restricted requirement?

Mar. 09 2010 11:11 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Alive,

I am still waiting for your response to what I have actually said. See post 10.

Mar. 09 2010 11:00 AM
Serena from UWS

If Paterson has an honorable bone in his body he will resign. It is one thing to be an ineffectual chucklehead and quite another to intimidate a woman who has been brutalized from pressing charges against her attacker. Shameful. Throw the bum out.

Mar. 09 2010 10:59 AM
aliveinNJn from New Jersey

Pardon me, Peter, you obviously KNOW the FACTS of the case. On the other hand, I have only heard the misinformation spewed by the press! Please share your insight!

Mar. 09 2010 10:56 AM
Fuva

UNFORTUNATELY, I suspect that some part of Natalie from Park Ave's comment above is true.

Sounds to me that Paterson's aide - David Johnson - was going through a dramatic break-up, and manhandled the lady. And if he did so, it was wrong. But the Times piece went too far in pulling up his sealed youth records, which were immaterial.

AND if Paterson somehow gave the lady the impression that she should not pursue charges against Johnson, then that was wrong. And if he got World Series' tickets that he didn't pay for, that was wrong. AND these things warrant an investigation.

BUT, unfortunately, these are the kind of transgressions that the public assumes politicians commit all the time. This doesn't mean they should not be investigated and dealt with; Albany/ American politics need to be cleaned up. BUT, in context, they simply do not amount to HIGH CRIMES, so to speak.

Which begs the question: Why is the media so overzealously calling for Paterson's resignation BEFORE an investigation about alleged transgressions that took place in a political environment where worse things regularly transpire?

What's going on here? Is there more to this story? Or is the media's frenzy basely motivated? The recent Siena College poll suggests the public thinks they're overreaching and it's backfiring.

Mar. 09 2010 10:54 AM
g.e.Taylor from Brooklyn

Suggestion for a show:
How much money has the city council allocated for attorneys to represent each individual, past (since 2008) and present members of the city council or their staffs in criminal and/or civil litigation or investigations arising out of this alleged embezzellment.
It would be informative if the attorneys and their firms were identified; how much money was allocated for each council member or employee.
I can't seem to find that information in the published budgets.

Mar. 09 2010 10:50 AM
aliveinNJn from New Jersey

Charlene from Boston raises a good point. What is the intent of the dismissive and negative reporting on the governor? Even Bob Henley has come across as personally angry at Governor Paterson! What is really going on in New York and Albany? This is so much uprorar over innuendo, rumor, conjecture and speculation! There has been such little truly good reporting on the 1) dysfunctional legislature, 2) legal problems of the governor's aid, 3) the behind-the-scenes jockeying for elective position. I must confess that if my son were accused of a domestic violence offense, I would not step down because of it! What kind of nonsensical analysis to hold the governor responsible for the actions of his top aid! Did he tarnish his image a bit by not suspending the guy? Perhaps. Is that cause for demanding his immediate resignation? Only by the Albany- and New York press- juntas, obviously!

Mar. 09 2010 10:49 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Alive,

I am unclear what is outdated about expecting politicians and organizations to support the rights of an abused women to safely report the abuse. I think it is outdated to support people who abuse women and use power to intimidate women.

Mar. 09 2010 10:49 AM
Dorothy from Chelsea

Whether the governor is going to run again or not, he can't do anything without some modicum of support from the legislature -- and the legislature has already proven its negative worth earlier in the session.

I wonder how it is that we got an African American president and all of a sudden there are exposes of Rangel (whose abuses have gone on for years) and Paterson. Funny coincidence. Whoever is governor should have season tickets to Yankees, Mets, Knicks, Rangers, Bills, Islanders, etc. games. I'd like to know what he said to the woman who was abused before I take part in lynching anyone.

I'd vote for Paterson, even if just to be contrary. I think the media has gone on a witchunt. And I'm disgusted. (BTW, I'm white.)

Mar. 09 2010 10:46 AM
aliveinNJn from New Jersey

Say, Peter, the "woman issue" is more gendered than raced. What have you heard from the "women's organizations? Are political leaders expected to speak out on any and every issue? Why would you expect that kind of reflexive reaction? Maybe it is time you ride yourself of these outdated notions of what constitutes public response!

Mar. 09 2010 10:44 AM
Martha from Manhattan

One of the issues with Paterson is that when he came in, right or wrong, he was generally viewed by the rest of the state government (both democrats and the republicans) as politically weak - hence the whole debacle with control of the senate (they would never have dared do that under Spitzer). In a perfect world I would say that he should step down if it becomes clear that he interfered with a domestic violence investigation. However, then we would have a governor (Ravitch) whose appointment is viewed with skepticism by those who want more power for themselves. This would be a real recipe for disaster and continued inaction in a situation already dire.

Mar. 09 2010 10:44 AM
Dwight

How come I never hear the idea of Eliot Spitzer being appointed to serve as Lt Governor now so that he'd go back to being Governor in the event of a Paterson resignation. Especially since Ravitch has expressed an unwillingness to ascend to governor if Paterson should resign. At this point I'd love to have Spitzer back, especially as Paterson is beseiged by scandals himself. Spitzer turned out to be propehtic on Wall St, Albany insiders and so many other things.

Mar. 09 2010 10:43 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Natalie,

I bet when all the information comes out there will be a list of women complicit in trying to silence this victim of domestic violence. It is crazy that anyone would have tried to silence the women who was abused, but I really think there is a good chance that women were also involved in this disgrace.

Mar. 09 2010 10:42 AM
charlene from boston

Doesn't it seem weird to say things like "he didn't want this job"? If you want to be Lt. Governor, then by default you accept that there is the chance that you will become Governor.

Mar. 09 2010 10:33 AM
Natalie from Park Ave

Gov's a smart guy. Even Obama looks bad here - he could learn something from Paterson's speaches (i.e. not saying trite things like "I'm fired up") instead of asking a fellow democrat to step down.

This whole mess is just Albany wanting to get back to normal (i.e. corrupt white men taking kick backs, not getting anything done, and business as usual).

Mar. 09 2010 10:29 AM
g.e.Taylor from Brooklyn

Why don't we handle the witness tampering allegations against Governor Patterson and his administration the same way we handled the admission by city council president Quinn that she and a majority of the city council embezzled city funds by surreptitious allocations to non-existent agencies and programs which were later distributed to political supporters and relatives.
I couldn't find any WNYC programs in the above "Related Content" listings; but you can google ""NYC Council Slush Fund" or look here: " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOqecrHyzko&eurl=http://www.observer.com/2008/quinn-holding-taxpayer-money " OR " http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDPoNgcIwBY&feature=related "
OR " http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/17/nyregion/17council.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=diane%20cardwell%20%20%22NYC%20Council%22&st=cse ".

Basically, ladies and gentlemen, it is clear that the so called watchdogs of this corrupt circus are only interested interested in lurid, partisan "gotchas".

Mar. 09 2010 10:04 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Governor Patterson and those involved in using the State Police to intimidate a battered woman should face a criminal trial with the possibility of real jail time. Using the state police to physically intimidate a citizen is an act of tyranny and should be severely punished. Every police officer involved (even those who may have waited in a car) should be immediately put behind a desk and also face criminal charges.

It is interesting that many NY African American leaders have showed support for Governor Patterson but I have not heard the same support (or any support) for the African American woman who was beaten. It almost feels like some African American leaders are suggesting by their actions that "This is a black thing, stay out." If that is the case, it strikes me as very sad for the woman who was beaten.

Mar. 09 2010 08:13 AM

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