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Healthcare's Cost to NY

Wednesday, December 23, 2009

When healthcare reform takes effect, New York State will have to pick up more of the tab for Medicaid funding. Hon. Eliot Engel, Democratic congressman from the 17th district (parts of the Bronx, Westchester and Rockland counties) discusses what healthcare reform will cost New York and how he's trying to get a better deal.

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Hon. Eliot Engel

Comments [12]

anon from NJ

John F: How many fat Japanese and German people have you seen? Americans are unhealthy largely (pun intended) due to our own behavior.

Gee, I'm really looking forward to paying my tax increase to further subsidize these unhealthy people. Outrageous!

Dec. 23 2009 11:20 AM
plp

I think a prerequisite for becoming a politician at any level is the ability to respond to a question and completely sidestep away from it and rant on about something else they apparently did. The better you are at this sociopathic skill the farther you will go, and add charisma for higher office.

This health bill is a complete clusterPhuck, is Massachusetts really going to be the national model?

Dec. 23 2009 11:20 AM
Dorothy from Chelsea

I copied this from a post on www.fool.com (The Motley Fool). I can't vouch for its absolute accuracy, but it's worth checking into.

"I am not shocked that all Senators/Congressmen make deals for support of various bills, so his securing 100% reimbursement for the extra medicaid cost does not surprise me....

Here is what I find surprising (maybe not!)

I was watching John McCain and two other Republicans screeching about this inequity. Baucus (D) was the only Democrat in the Senate at the time. He asked if he could clarify... which they allowed him to do..

Here is what he said... According to the bill...

All 50 states will get 100% reimbursement for the extra medicaid cost until 2016.

After 2016, where the average government reimbursement is 57%, all 50 states will receive approximately 90%. Nebraska will receive an extra 10%.

The Republicans had no knowledge of this and acted surprised.

With all their rantings of read the bill, don't you think they should have done their homework and read the bill?

This does not suggest whether the deal is right or wrong, but it does suggest the extra dollars is not in the magnitude that is being reported. The way it is reported, one would think that the rest of the states were not getting a healthy chunk of change.

As an aside... can anyone tell me of any bill passed in the last 10 years that did not have sweetners? "

Dec. 23 2009 11:20 AM
Shelly from Albany

Congratulations to Nelson. Now everybody knows his name. I guess being a senator in Nebraska everybody needs their name in the headlines beyond the local yokel news every now and then.

Dec. 23 2009 11:20 AM
Francis Zuccarello from NY, NY 10011

Why do you let Mike Bloomberg have it both ways? If he doesn't like the current bill, then let him pick up the phone and make some calls: to Joe Lieberman and say, "Support the public option"; to one of his beloved Republicans like John McCain and say, "Make this bipartisan"; or to the managers of his TV networks -- and let's not be naive -- to say, "Trumpet a healthcare plan that's good for NYC."

Dec. 23 2009 11:20 AM
Pliny from nyc

Nebraska USA
Population, 2008 estimate 1,783,432 304,059,724

Dec. 23 2009 11:19 AM
Bobby G from East Village

1. The U.S. government subsidizes production of high fructose corn syrup.
2.Then Food Stamps buys the high fructose corn syrup (two liter bottles of Pepsi).
3.Then Medicaid pays to treat the diabetes caused by the high fructose corn syrup.
4. Then Medicaid pays too much for the drugs to treat the diabetes.
A more inefficient, for profit system, is beyond conception.

Dec. 23 2009 11:09 AM
Hugh from Brooklyn

Bloomberg whining about those places that were irresponsible getting money .... That's rich. Bloomberg didn't complain when Wall Street was rewarded for its vile misconduct.

Dec. 23 2009 11:08 AM
anon from NJ

I'm a lifelong Dem but am ashamed of the way this process was conducted. Nelson is an extortionist and it should have never been permitted. (plus he got a clause that will deny women LEGAL health care, i.e., abortion)

How can a Senator vote on a nationwide bill with major cost implications and then negotiate ZERO impact for his state? This should not be permitted. For once in my life, I agree with Lindsay Graham.

Dec. 23 2009 11:06 AM
JK from Midtown

why does ny always get shafted by the feds? another example of this was homeland security funding, where states like nebraska and iowa demanded and received EQUAL amounts for anti-terrorism as new york and nyc.

Dec. 23 2009 10:50 AM
Katherine Jackson from lower manhattan

On what study is Mr. Moore basing the claim that the US has "the best health care in the world." Haven't there been myriad studies that show quite a different picture.

Dec. 23 2009 10:44 AM
John P. Crowley from Brooklyn, NY

RE Healthcare ... Japan & Germany, who spend less than half of the percentage of their GDP on HC that we do, first and foremost, set out to a) reduce costs b) standardize the cost of such treatments. In the US a particular treatment, in a place like Minnesota could cost half of what it does in Florida. More Doctors in Florida particpate in partnerships that offer the testing services than in Minnesota. Get rid of the conflicts, get rid of the ridiculous costs dictated by companies like Big Pharma, that are rewarded for failure, and we can begin to talk about a Not-For-Profit system that works and delivers HC to all of its citizens...Without bankrupting the country !!!

Dec. 23 2009 09:31 AM

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