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Guantanamo Decision and Terror Trials

Monday, November 16, 2009

Attorney General Holder's decision to try terror suspects in federal courts marks a turning point in the approach to combating terrorism, and the future of the Guantanamo base. Karen Greenberg, executive director of NYU's Center on Law and Security and the author of The Least Worst Place: Guantanamo's First 100 Days, puts it in context.

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Karen Greenberg

Comments [8]

DAT from Nathan Straus Projects

Why have some people feel that these
people are guilty, right off the bat,
prior to trial?

They stand accused of a terribl crime,
not convicted of that terrible crime.

Nov. 16 2009 01:52 PM
Calls'em As I Sees'em from Langley, VA

Mark,

When the terrorists are freed because they were captured as military combatants and then mistakenly tried as common criminals for political reasons, can they live in your apartment or house?

I'm sure that they will get a job with ACORN and maybe moonlight as foreign language Census Takers. Soon they will have lots of "friends" as the Obama admin is spending lots of hard earned US taxpayer money to bring thousands of Gazan "refugees" to our country.

Yes, that's a good idea. Perhaps the terrorist Gazan doctor who murdered all those soldiers at Fort Hood will be released to help create a fifth column of traitors and terrorist in our midst. Perhaps they can become part of the "civilian" army that Obama briefly talked about during the convention and in several other prominent speeches. What great ideas this administration has.

Who knows, perhaps one of them will run for President someday, now that you don't have to prove that you are a US citizen. Lol.

Nov. 16 2009 11:30 AM
Calls'em As I Sees'em from Langley, VA

The “lie” that this decision is Eric Holder's and not Barry Hussein Obama is the joke of the day. Nothing gets done in this admin without the approval of the axis of evil, i.e., Obama, Emanual and Axlerod. They are constantly triangulating the political considerations, implications and consequences.

With their poll ratings down and health care socialization and the rest of their evil plans for destroying America stalled, the Obama boys need a big distraction and fast, hence a show trial in Manhattan, where the guilty get a worldwide “soapbox” (something WNYC took away from it’s listeners and contributors) and a chance to go free and also get the opportunity to denounce America (giving Obama a rest on that front) and reveal security secrets. “Heck of a job, Barry.”

This is of course the same Eric Holder who was responsible for murdering dozens of American children at Waco, TX. He should have been disbarred, arrested, tried, convicted and imprisoned for life for manslaughter or negligent homicide. What a wonderful man to have in this administration. What a shining example for today’s youth. What B---S---!

Please note that this trial is being brought to you by the same group of incompetent and mischievous Bolsheviks, Maoists and fanatic Muslim apologists in the Obama administration who despite their promises to the contrary, have not closed Gitmo, because after the election they realized it is necessary; have not pulled out of Iraq because they are afraid of the country’s collapse and have not reinforced US and NATO troops in Afghanistan which is causing our troops to be killed and wounded on a daily basis. Again, “heck of a job, Barry.”

Nov. 16 2009 11:10 AM
BrettG from Astoria

For those who see only downside, please check out:

Glenn%20Greenwald%20-%20Salon.com.webarchive.

Also, the relevant sections in 18 USC sections 2331, 2332/a/b/e & rest of the section defining terrorism, jurisdiction & venue, penalties, etc. The statute separates both terrorism & sabotage from acts of war. It acknowledges that both such acts can occur during a state of war or an armed conflict. But it does not specifically call terrorism a war crime.

Whether the decision was arbitrary, the criminal action in district court seems to conform to the statute.

But that's my reading as a past jury member only.

Nov. 16 2009 10:59 AM
Alex from Queens

What advantage do we actually get from trying this man? He is going to be convicted and then executed how does that help us in the eyes of the world, be it Muslim or European? I see nothing but downside on this one.

Nov. 16 2009 10:40 AM
Mark

I'm so sick of these conservatives that don't want to give these guys a real trial but then want Obama to lecture the Chinese on human rights. Now with a torture program like guantanamo we are in no position to tell the Chinese anything about human rights. We can't tell them anything about the economy either but that's another story. We want the Chinese to give some Uigur seperatists a "fair trial" but we don't want these guys to have one because all the torture might not hold up in court. I'm glad my mandarin sucks so I can't read what a joke the Chinese think we are on their internet sites.

Nov. 16 2009 10:31 AM
hjs from 11211

as for the death penalty.
I'd like to say it's a get out of jail free card let them sit in a dark room for 60 years. better than the free pass that the death penalty is

Nov. 16 2009 10:28 AM
Alvin from Manhattan

Our legal system makes an arbitrary distinction between a state-sponsored military and terrorists. A militant group should not be exempt from military justice just because they are not part of a national army. The legal system is not prepared to deal with groups that are based in weak or failed states, or groups who do not believe in modern nation-states, but believe themselves to be part of a caliphate or other non-national structure.

Nov. 16 2009 10:28 AM

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