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30 Issues Day 10: World Trade Center Development

Friday, October 02, 2009

New York City Development Week concludes with a discussion of the World Trade Center site. Charles Bagli of the New York Times updates the latest re-development plans, and breaks down the Bloomberg and Thompson positions on the project.

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Comments [9]

Gregory P. Mango from Brooklyn, NY

Too bad Mr. Bagli didn't talk about how the WTC Memorial jury scuttled Libeskind's master plan by picking Reflecting Absence. Had he done so, he would have been able to explain to the public why the development has been so slow. For example, Arad's design had his gallery around the north side of the north footprint sticking out into the newly created Fulton Street. Of course, this was not acceptable, so Davis, Bond & Brody had to redesign his plan multiple times to fit within the master plan. This is why when you enter a memorial design competition, you need to look at the blueprints and elevations so that the design COMPLIMENTS, not destroys, the master plan.

Oct. 05 2009 03:10 PM
hjs from 11211

and the chinese made them change the name

Oct. 02 2009 12:36 PM
David from NYC

There are so many other places in the city that need help. Why aid this area? I hope that the taxpayers wont have to pay for these ideas. What about aiding the other boroughs - The Bronx? Hunts Point? Yankee Stadium Area?

Oct. 02 2009 11:57 AM
Caitlin from Jersey City

Where did the businesses that had been in the WTC relocate? Are most of them still in lower Manhattan? How many would be interested in returning?

Oct. 02 2009 11:44 AM
Michael D. D. White from Brooklyn

BTW: One thing Bloomberg did with his control over the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation is divert $2 Million in federal disaster recovery money into his pet Waterfalls project.

See:

Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Self-Congratulation “Befalls” a Man Who Would Know No Limits

http://noticingnewyork.blogspot.com/2008/10/self-congratulation-befalls-man-who.html

Oct. 02 2009 11:43 AM
Michael D. D. White from Brooklyn

For more about how Bloomberg stalls his own developments with a Bloombergian style of (usually mega-) development that focuses too much on developers who are looking to maximize their own interests see:

Wednesday, September 23, 2009
Getting Bloomberg Out of The Way to Honor Moynihan
http://noticingnewyork.blogspot.com/2009/09/getting-bloomberg-out-of-way-to-honor.html

Oct. 02 2009 11:29 AM
Michael D. D. White from Brooklyn

The World Trade Center redevelopment is taking a long time partly because no one wanted to rebuild what was there before, an acknowledged failure. What is now proposed will in some ways be better with the reestablishment of a lot of the street grid. However, it is also taking much longer and the new designs will not be as good as they could have been because of the primacy being placed on private developer/owner (Silverstein) interests and maintaining substantial density at the site no matter the dictates fo better design.

Ironically, the new design is therefore going to incorporate repetition of some of the same mistakes as the original WTC design.

See:

Tuesday, August 5, 2008
TWO, AND FRO?
http://noticingnewyork.blogspot.com/2008/08/two-and-fro.html

Further, in addition to the attempt for the redevelopment to replicate the density of the original WTC design the density surrounding the area is being pushed up. Right across the street the density of the ultra-large Goldman Sachs building, which received all sorts of special benefits, overrode the highly commendable Battery Park City master plan. Instead of such disrespect for the BPC master plan, te WTC site should have been redeveloped taking cues from, paying greater deference to and interweaving with that master plan

Michael D. D. White
Noticing New York
http://noticingnewyork.blogspot.com/

Oct. 02 2009 11:24 AM
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Oct. 02 2009 10:02 AM
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