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NYPD News Round-up

Friday, August 30, 2013

Murray Weiss, columnist and Criminal Justice Editor at DNAinfo, talks about the confusion surrounding a new law passed by the City Council. Some officers and police unions think it will make individual cops liable in court in discrimination suits. Plus, he'll discuss how murder rates are still low despite the sharp drop in stop and frisk implementation; and the future of the force as retirement looms for many cops who joined 20 years ago.

 

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Comments [11]

Van from Harlem

I am a daily subway rider, live in Central Harlem, and work in Washington Heights. I have never felt threatened or bothered by the subway performers or entrepreneurs. The homeless or the intoxicated, on the other hand, is threatening, especially in terms of the verbal abuse practiced by some of these individuals.

Mar. 14 2014 10:10 AM
Michael from Brooklyn

As someone involved in drafting the legislation with the City Council, I have to point out that the otherwise-excellent Murray Weiss repeated a myth about the Community Safety Act that he was asked to correct candidate Joe Lhota on. Individual officers (and even the NYPD) are NOT liable for damages. Period. Regardless of whether or not the City is representing them.

The attorney who called in was correct in that there are a number of other laws that allow a suit for monetary damages and that the city provides attorneys and pays damages in 99.9% of city claims against officers. However, this law does NOT allow damages. Only injunctive and declaratory relief to remedy the policies that lead to discriminatory policing actions.

Here is the text of the legislation. 14-151(d)(2) says:
"The remedy in any civil action or administrative proceeding undertaken pursuant to this section shall be limited to injunctive and declaratory relief."

14-151(d)(3) says:
"In any action or proceeding to enforce this section, the court may allow a prevailing plaintiff reasonable attorney's fees as part of the costs, and may include expert fees as part of the attorney's fees."

Full text of the legislation:
http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=1444267&GUID=BCB20F20-50EF-4E9B-8919-C51E15182DBF&Options=ID|Text|&Search=1080

Aug. 30 2013 04:09 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Malcom from Harlem,

Everyone knows that black people can be racists too.

Look at Louie Farraklan.

Aug. 30 2013 11:19 AM
Malcom from Harlem

Problem for the soon to be minority "majority" ( and their wanna be's) how to maintain economic and political dominance ... in the south and Texas figure all sorts of ways to disenfranchise them as voters .. in the NorthEast... use the "support the cops mentality" to intimidate and drive out the upcoming masses of brown and black people ... it has no affect on crime but sure makes a racist feel good ... listen to Katsimatidis (where he got this CATS thing I don't know) comments during the debate with Loda on people looking like hoodlums to get an idea of where this mentality is at... but like CATS this mentality is older and heavy .. will not be around long......

Aug. 30 2013 11:05 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

I believe a police officer's actions are covered under the Law of Agency, so up until now, at least, they could not be personally and individually sued.

While I don't believe that they should be sued personally and individually, I do think that the possibility of that happening will act as somewhat of a deterrent to illegal or irresponsible actions on the part of the officers. For whatever reason, police officers often succumb to gang mentality when it comes to perpetrating violence on members of the public; but if they have on board cameras and the threat of law suits, they might think twice about their actions.

To the caller who said that police officers are not well paid, I beg to differ. I work full time in a professional position and earn less than half the starting police office salary.

Aug. 30 2013 11:00 AM
bernie from bklyn

get ready to revert back to dinkins-era nyc!

Aug. 30 2013 10:59 AM
GE from SI

IF crime is low ...it's not ONLY because of the police... the police are to be supported blah blah blah ... but do the police need rigorous over sight? Of course they do... these people are not saints.. they are PAID and PAID quite well if they get thru the beginning years to do a job, they are not drafted, they do it by choice.. if they don't like the oversight .. go get another job.

Aug. 30 2013 10:59 AM
Pablo Alto

The PBA, following the lead of the mayor and the commissioner, refuse to acknowledge--let alone understand--that treating select citizens of our city as suspects AT ALL TIMES.

Stop and Frisk is a REAL problem for people of color. I respect the NYPD and the work they do. Yet to be seen as a potential danger just walking down the street by being a man of color (I am 53, but look much younger) is so hurtful. I makes me feel that the police are the enemy, rather than an ally.

Aug. 30 2013 10:57 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Let's keep it real: Part of the job's appeal to cops is (in addition to the gun) the power.

We have the nerve to ask that they not abuse this. In response to this check on their power, are they now throwing tantrums?

(Side note: 'Minority' cops often turn blue. Sad but true.)

Aug. 30 2013 10:57 AM
Clif from Manhattan

I agree with Mr. Weiss about the police thinking twice about what they do. I think that they should think twice. It seems that for too long the NYPD has gone unchallenged when they take action against innocent civilians. There's nothing wrong with being personally accountable for ones actions.

Aug. 30 2013 10:54 AM
Amy from Manhattan

"Citizenship status"? Does that mean *presumed* citizenship status based on appearance, which goes back to race? You can't tell if someone's a citizen by looking at them.

Aug. 30 2013 10:48 AM

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