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Queens Terror Plot

Tuesday, September 22, 2009

James Gordon Meek, Washington correspondent and security writer for the New York Daily News, talks about what he's learned covering the alleged terror plot in Queens for the past week.

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Comments [36]

Peter from Sunset Park

Brucey,

What, you got tired of name calling? No worries, you can probably start again. Liberals can get away with that much more then anyone else at WNYC.

I like that your Jewish hate is based on lefties like Chomsky - that really lets everyone know what you are about.

Keep up that name calling, you are a lib and have nothing to worry about at WNYC.

Sep. 23 2009 06:45 AM
bruce

It's not your views that worry me!

"Right of center folks"have gotten away with quite a bit.
History speaks volumes.
You know what they say:Dems that forget history are doomed to repeat it.
Terrorism is the killing of Inocent civilians,NO EXCEPTIONS.

Here's another example,right of center you say?:
They asked Dan Halutz chief of staff during Israel's 2006 attack on Lebanon how it felt to drop a 1 tonne bomb on an apartment bulding with civilians including children asleep in Gaza several years prior.
He said there was a slight jolt in the plane as the US made bomb was released.
He was was carring out an assasination of some Palestinian that was known to be sleep there.He was killed and scores of civilians including children in their beds.

That be Terrorism!

Sep. 22 2009 09:34 PM
Peter from Sunset Park

Brucey,

Glad you brought up Benny Morris, he supports the moral country of Israel's self defense against terrorism.

Keep sharing your anti-Jewish views, they only make my views stronger.

It is interesting that you call names. WNYC will probably tolerate your liberal name calling. Us right of center folks would never get away with that.

Take care Brucey.

Sep. 22 2009 09:09 PM
Peter from Sunset Park

Brucey,

Glad you brought up Benny Morris, he supports the moral country of Israel's self defense against terrorism.

Keep sharing your anti-Jewish views, they only make my views stronger.

It is interesting that you call names. WNYC will probably tolerate your liberal name calling. Us right of center folks would never get away with that. WNYC's long arm of the censor would never allow a personal attack against Obama.

Take care Brucey.

Sep. 22 2009 09:09 PM
bruce

Terrorism is part and parcel of Israel's foundation.You know you are on a slippery slope when killing is justified by Morality.

See Israel historians Benny Morris and Israel Shahak for background on IDF record of non jewish civillian killings.
The USS Liberty slaughter in which 34 Americans were killed in cold blood by the IDF on june 8,1967 followed the execution of 300 Unarmed Egyptian POW'S in the Sinai coastal town of El Arish.The IDF Shaked recon. unit under future housing Benymin Elizar committed that war crime.Liberty attack was ordered by def. minister Moshe Dayan.In previous 1956 war the IDF killed unarmed Egypt POW'S (in Sinia's Mitla pass)captured by units under Arik Sharon,a man with much blood and terror.This would qualify him for the office of PM in Israel.
Sharon architect of invasion of Lebanon in eighties,would leave 20,000 Lebanese non combattants dead during brutal 19 year occupation.He would order his troops to surround 2 Palestinian refugee camps(Sabra and Chatilla)inorder for Lebanese Phalange on IDF payroll to carry out massacres under Israeli flares that lit the night sky.
That Israeli occupation produced the radical group Hizbollah and mideast suicide bombing as we know it.The fat SCHLUB Sharon was midwife for that unholy birth.

Read the Fateful Triangle,by Lefty Noam Chomsky for more info. on terrorism.
Also visit ussliberty.org and ask American survivors about terrorism before it got to these shores.

Sep. 22 2009 08:57 PM
Peter from Sunset Park

Wow Brucey,

So, Obama is worried about Iran and you blame, well of course, Israel.

You wrote, "IDF military doctrine has always targetted civillians"

Is that your comment, or did you get it from a Jimmy Carter book?

Please keep sharing your left wing anti-Jewish views. The more you talk, the more you support the great moral country that is Israel.

Thanks for sharing Brucey.

Sep. 22 2009 07:06 PM
bruce

BL,Much obliged.
Multiple personalites methinks!

State Terror vs Non State Terror
is Terrorism.
IDF military doctrine has always targetted civillians since it's inception.Using US supplied arms has been a continuous violation of the US Arms Export Act and has always fed the fires of Islamic terrorism.
US foreign policy has been manipulated by special interest groups,with the consquences coming to it's shores.These policies have been disastorous and expensive in American blood and treasure.
It's time to question.
Keep an eye on these folk as the drum beat to attack Iran gets louder.
Geez, how are these Persians going to react?

"If you see 2 parties fighting,look for a third(The instigator)"..Winston Churchil

Some reading ref.
By Deception Ye Shall Wage War.
Mossad turncoat Victor Ovsrovsky spills his guts...

Sep. 22 2009 03:06 PM
BL Moderator from Varick St. Studios

[[BL Moderator Writes: We've only now been able to get to comments moderation. Apologies. In general, please try to remember to be on topic and courteous to your fellow listeners/posters. We've removed a couple of the direct name-calling posts, but ultimately ask that you do your part to maintain productive and civil discourse. Thank you.
-BL Show-]]

Sep. 22 2009 01:58 PM
Peter from Sunset Park

Brucey,

You are da man! I love it when the left is so off topic and so anti-Jewish. Keep talking Brucey. I love it when you change the topic of the thread to the great moral and human rights respecting country of Israel. I love that you blame terrorism on Israel. You are like Jimmy Carter, keep talking Brucey! Pretty soon you are going to say that Israel is disproportionate in its military action – that would be the biggest joke of all. Thanks Brucey.

Sep. 22 2009 12:38 PM
bruce

Mike,"Da TRUTH" will set you free!

The topic is terroism.
Israel is in forefront.
Nes Pas??
The Origins..
The Stern Gang,for example predessor to the Lehi movement during WWII aproached the Italian Facists and Nazis to collaborate.Member,Itsackh Shamir was a great admirer of both groups. He would be a future PM of the "Moral" STATE of Israel.His road to premiership was bloody like all PM'S save Olmert.Shamir involved in 1940's assinations of UN mediator Folke Bernadotte and UK high commissioner Lord Moyne.
Israel inorder to create a country exclusively for Jews had to undertake Terror under guise of war to clear non jewish populations.It has cleared many Christians and Muslims but created a constant state of war and Islamic terrorism which the US is now saddled with.
Terrorism has come to America not only 'cause of the unconditional funding and political support for Israeli extremism,but it was always the intention of their Policy makers and their supporters in US to engage in Israel's war.
The Attack on USS liberty by unmarked Israel planes was but one attempt.Ship was meant to sink with all hands and blame to be pinned on Egypt.It did not.Some survived,
Visit Liberty survivors site to see if that was not a terror attack on an unarmed communication ship flying the American flag in International waters.It left 34 Americans dead and 171 wounded.Highest casualy rate since WWII on a USN ship.
www.ussliberty.org
Terror bombing by Israel recruited Egyptian jews against US/UK targets in Egypt in 1950's is another.
It goes on with the spimiesters close behind.
US Taxpayer pays comiNg and going.
Register AIPAC lobby as a foreign agent for Israel.At point it was just funnelling money.Now this special interest bunch are planning out war for the US.

According to the Christian Science Monitor,the cost of Israel to the American TAXpayer has been over $1.6 TRILLION since 1973.http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

Sep. 22 2009 12:25 PM
Peter from Sunset Park

Bruce,

I love that Obama and America give boat loads of cash to the great moral Isareli empire! I also I love it when libs like you go off topic. It confuses the WNYC censors. If they accept your off topic rants, they have to accept my response! Thank you Bruce.

Bruce, are you talking about Jimmy Carter syle aparthied? I think Carter took a minute away from his anti-Jewish hate speech to play the race card. That was funny. Man, the dems shut Carter up fast!

Thanks Brucey, you da man!

Sep. 22 2009 11:49 AM
hjs from 11211

Mike
but recent research says "Torturing 'does not get truth' " http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8267633.stm

Sep. 22 2009 11:35 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Mike,

The great moral and compassionate and human rights respecting country of Israel has made all torture, in all situations, illegal. That is relevant too.

Sep. 22 2009 11:33 AM
Mike

Peter-

It may have been facetious, but it wasn't irrelevant. They have this guy in custody who apparently had a plan. I'm surprised the Republicans aren't screaming about this. This is their dream torture scenario.

Sep. 22 2009 11:20 AM
Sonia Jaffe Robbins from Manhattan

It sounds to me like the NYPD panicked or it wanted/needed to show it is accomplishing something against terrorism. But it also sounds like they've jumped the gun and possibly messed up the investigation. The caller who asked if Zazi might be a decoy raises a very valid question. Why can't security officials wait and WATCH? Are they so unsure of their own abilities to keep an eye on these suspicious people and wait until they do have evidence of imminent action?

Sep. 22 2009 10:38 AM
jess from brooklyn

I think every September in New York there will be a heightened sense of paranoia and fear of terror attack... Who can blame us. We are all dealing with varying degrees of PTSD, right?

Sep. 22 2009 10:38 AM
Anthony Pellino from New York

Your guest suggests that people may be complacent about terrorism nowadays, but if he had been in midtown the day of the steam pipe explosion a couple of years ago he would have seen how quick New Yorkers are to panic in the face of what they think is an attack. People outside of the areas near Grand Central did not take that event as seriously as those of us who saw the crowds running up avenues to get away.

Sep. 22 2009 10:38 AM
Peter from Sunset Park

Mike wrote,

"Too bad Cheney isn't in office so they could pull this guys fingernails out and find out what he was really up to."

Odd that libs get to change the topic on these boards with no moderation. We right of center people are treated very differently by the WNYC censors.

For example, if I were to mention Obama's poor policies towards Israel in this thread, I would probably get moderated by the WNYC censors. So it goes. Different WNYC standards for different political views I guess.

Sep. 22 2009 10:34 AM
Josh from Washington Heights

I agree with "the truth from bkny" about complacency. Backpack bombs aren't (relatively) that difficult to make and deploy and they'd wreak a hell of a lot of damage in a subway. I'd rather our taxes be used in counter-terrorism over here with real intelligence and warnings before the terrorists strike (and they will strike again because NYC is just way too appealing of a target) than spending billions in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Sep. 22 2009 10:31 AM
Mike

I hope those patriotic Republicans will now stand fully behind President Obama and support him in his fight against terror! Because if they don't, they should just find another country to live in.

Sep. 22 2009 10:29 AM
ivan from nyc

JAMES
Let me see how smart you are..why the IRA cease their actions..and why they did not go after them when since the war on terrors started.

Sep. 22 2009 10:28 AM
Vince from brooklyn

Is this pro bono for Kuby?

Sep. 22 2009 10:28 AM
GL from NJ

I'm watching this as a test case of what happens when we handle this as a criminal matter. We saw what happens when we handle this as an military matter, let's see if we can deliver the goods using our justice system. I will be very disappointed/disillusioned if all we get these guys on is a pejury charge.

Sep. 22 2009 10:27 AM
Kathy from Wantagh, NY

I would feel better if there were many more
K-9 dogs - they would be able to sniff out any potential plastic explosives -- I don't care how many Nat'l Guardsman you have - we need more of a preemptive approach - MORE DOGS!!!!!!

Sep. 22 2009 10:26 AM
Mark from Dobbs Ferry

Aren't the Feds pissed off at the NYPD for blowing an ongoing FBI investigation into the same people?

Sep. 22 2009 10:24 AM
David from Astoria, NY

Sounds to me like a good job is being done by the NYPD. That's why New Yorkers aren't getting freaked out. Because we've got the best security in the country, hands down.

Sep. 22 2009 10:23 AM
the truth from bkny

We are falling back into complacency and that is how they get us!!

Sep. 22 2009 10:22 AM
Caitlin from Jersey City

For the people asking about Port Authority, there was a "suspicious package": http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/22/bus-terminal-evacuated-after-suspicious-package-found/

Sep. 22 2009 10:22 AM
Ann from Manhattan

How did they find these guys? What prompted the arrest?

Sep. 22 2009 10:20 AM
Norman from Manhattan

Does he have any sources that *aren't* in the Department of Homeland Security?

Who might be a little skeptical?

Sep. 22 2009 10:20 AM
superf88

So the FBI is looking for 11 people who have purchased bulk fertilizer in cash?? Have they set up a toll free number for said purchasers to call? Point being that it's too bad that 8 yrs after 9/11 the Denver FBI would feel compelled to blow their whole investigation rather than risk keeping it open and make that phone call to their colleagues in NYC Homeland Security or other local officials.

QUESTION

Is it correct to assume that based on the way this investigation is playing out reflects on basic dysfunction at Homeland Security -- Still?

Sep. 22 2009 10:18 AM
Norman from Manhattan

Did James Gordon Meek talk to any of the civil liberties people, or anybody else who could look at it skeptically?

Colin Powell also made a very convincing argument at the U.N. that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't.

Sep. 22 2009 10:15 AM
Justin from Manhattan

This sounds just like another hoax. The limo driver is laughable.

Sep. 22 2009 10:13 AM
Mike

Too bad Cheney isn't in office so they could pull this guys fingernails out and find out what he was really up to.

Sep. 22 2009 10:11 AM
Laura

Yes, I was just there! They shut down the port authority. They made anyone who arrived on a bus exit immediately. Is it a terror alert? Will it be safe to travel back to NJ tonight? Why is there so little news about this?

Sep. 22 2009 10:08 AM
Josh from Washington Heights

My wife just called from Port Authority and they shut it down completely. What's going on with that?

Sep. 22 2009 10:04 AM

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