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Election Results

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

Michael Saul, New York Daily News city hall reporter, Azi Paybarah, reporter for the New York Observer, and Bob Hardt, executive producer and political director for NY1 news, discuss the results from yesterday’s primary election.

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Bob Hardt, Azi Paybarah and Michael Saul
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Comments [31]

Ken from Soho

As a registered Democrat, I voted in the primary for all my choices EXCEPT the Mayor, as I intend to split my ticket to vote for Bloomberg. I wonder how many others left the Mayor line unselected.

Sep. 16 2009 05:17 PM
Jackson McFlynn from Upper East Side

maybe this would help...you can read for yourself about John Liu and his ties with the CCP:
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/t/john-liu-china-connection/

Sep. 16 2009 03:18 PM
Jackson McFlynn from Upper East Side

RE: your segment this morning on John Liu...I've read some of the articles from The Epochtimes and hope you can do some further reporting. I've followed the Epochtimes for some time and find their knowledge of China issues to be excellent.

Sep. 16 2009 12:33 PM
Canonchet from Brooklyn

Errata: That's 2013 when Bloomberg's legally last term end, not 2015. But given the precedent maybe it will be 2017, or 2021!

Sep. 16 2009 10:49 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

HJS
The Times doesn’t even have a basic list of decided, runoff, undecided. It’s pretty pathetic local coverage. WNYC will probably get their info from partner New York Times when they decide full local results are important.

Sep. 16 2009 10:43 AM
Canonchet from Brooklyn

The five-borough backlash against the City Council support for overturning/extending term limits demonstrates Bloomberg's somewhat surprising vulnerability, but Bill Thompson sill seems too modestly civil-servant a figure to lead a credible mayoral challenge. Last night's speech doesn't change that. An upstairs-downstairs Bloomberg-rich-and-out-of-touch message won't bring around the swing voters who were attracted by Bloomberg turning the page on Giuliani with a welcome combination of technical competence, non-megalomaniacal self-assurance, and the sound instinct to try to put an end to the divisive racial and socioeconomic polarization that had for much too long characterized New York City politics. But that somewhat bland technocrat-autocratic has hardened into something more imperious, as crystalized by the term-limits reversal, and raising anew legitimate concerns about the political power of unbridled wealth that Bloomberg had previously tamped down. What is to prevent Bloomberg's succession in 2015 by yet another strong-willed civic-minded Times-endorsed billionaire backed by his peers and the great and the good of the Upper East Side, as opposed to the hoi polloi of the 'outer boroughs'? Maybe Liu, Quinn or DeBlasio will stand in their way. Maybe.

Sep. 16 2009 10:42 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

Hugh,

Class anger is an ugly thing. How much of your own money do you resist giving to the city in the form of taxes?
Don’t be jealous, go out there, start a business, and make money for yourself.

Sep. 16 2009 10:35 AM
hjs from 11211

for some reason the WNYC web page doesn't have the results? so i guess i'm off to NY!
once again this website lets me down

Sep. 16 2009 10:32 AM
hjs from 11211

Monty Burns
fix ur web site it doesn't load correctly

Sep. 16 2009 10:31 AM
Cathi

Brian- please also talk about district 19 (flushing) and the diversity of the candidates who ran for positions this year- historic landmarks for numerous ethnic communities, especially within the asian american communities!

Sep. 16 2009 10:29 AM
antonio from park slope

Brian, Question where will the other candidates throw thee support now its a two man race in the comptroller and pa race?

Sep. 16 2009 10:27 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

Wow Marissa (#5), you said it better than I did. Thompson didn’t say what he would do, and unless he does, he will not get my vote. He’s acting like the Republicans on health insurance reform. Say’s what he’s against, says no to everything, and is unwilling or unable say what he’d do differently.

Sep. 16 2009 10:23 AM
Monty Burns from NYC

No Third Terms! Vote For Burns! go to BurnsForMayor.com

Sep. 16 2009 10:23 AM
JG from NYC

Let's not forget Bloomberg's other unforgivable sin: the treatment of protesters both in the antiwar demonstration prior to the invasion of Iraq and again at the Republican convention in 2004

Sep. 16 2009 10:23 AM
ionlyeathotdogs

perhaps you asked the wrong question. may i suggest, "if you weren't intimidated, would you say that reporters are intimidated (to cover Bloomberg properly)?"

Sep. 16 2009 10:23 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn NY

With everything that's happened with Wall Street liars and thieves over the past two years, people still buy the absurd, obscene notion that being rich means that a person must be an 'expert'. Comical. Has any other people in human history so completely embraced the faith that Wealth Is Virtue?

Sep. 16 2009 10:22 AM
antonio from park slope

who is this guy?? I swear I thought wnyc made a mistake and played a Tony Avela clip..

If he keeps hammering that the mayor has ignored the rampant overdevelopment of the outer-bouroughs and the FACT that bloomberg basically bought the votes for extension on term limits and his tax giveaways to the financial sector.

I wonder if Bloomberg will summon a terror alert and skip one the future debates..
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D05EFDB163FF932A25753C1A9639C8B63

Sep. 16 2009 10:19 AM
Christopher Deignan from Middle Village

I don't know that much about Bill Thompson but he seems like a good, intelligent, suitable left leaning Democrat and I'm fine with that. Term limits is very much the issue and if Bill Thompson's acceptance speech is anything to go by, I am delighted to see him focus heavily on the issue of term limits. What MB did to engineer a third term run was fundamentally undemocratic and reminiscent of the worst excesses of back room politicking. For that reason alone, he must go. We citizens of New York are not for sale.

Sep. 16 2009 10:19 AM
hjs from 11211

i don't think i can vote for bill thompson. he's against bike lanes and parking tickets. does he hate the new trees also.

Sep. 16 2009 10:18 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn NY

How has Bloomberg helped New York in the financial crisis?! He's helped Wall Street. If you believe in Reaganoid trickle down economics, then I guess you think Mike has helped New York. Or if you believe the Mike Bloomberg "I am the State" attitude, then Mike helping Mike is Mike helping New York.

Sep. 16 2009 10:18 AM
Bill from New York

It sounds like Mr. Thompson hopes it will be the will of the people to limit Bloomberg to two terms. Sounds good to me. That's the electoral process.

Term limit laws are another matter. They may have been passed by the will of *a* people, but not by the will of the people whom it will effect in the next election cycle, when the electorate has necessarily changed. *The* people are not now the people who voted for term limits, a superfluous or underhanded way of influencing an election, the will of the people down the road be damned.

Sep. 16 2009 10:18 AM
ionlyeathotdogs

i wouldn't say the press is intimidated, would you? nooooo iwouldn't say the press is intimidated. would you? noooo i wouldn't say the press is intimidated, would you?

Sep. 16 2009 10:17 AM
Beowulf from Beijing

listening online from work in Beijing. I'm a democrat who voted for Bloomberg last time, but not thrilled with his running for a 3rd term, seems a bit of a benevolent dictator all of a sudden. I could be convinced by Thompson to vote against Bloomberg this time.

Sep. 16 2009 10:17 AM
Voter from Brooklyn

I didn’t hear Thompson’s full speech—and I did vote for him based on a friend’s recommendation and that of the NY Times—but based on that snippet, I was undecided, but he probably won’t get my vote in November.
First, he needs to remember that this city has improved in many ways over the past eight years and not all Democrats were opposed to term limits (especially since they were a relatively new creation created by politics, not angry citizens) . Second, he needs to stop saying what he’s against and say what he is for, what he will do, how he will accomplish it, and what makes him competent enough to govern 3% of the nation’s population.
Points that were a total joke from the snippet:
Homelessness… Um, Mr. Thompson, we happen to be in a recession
Unemployment… Again, Mr. Thompson, we are in a recession and unemployment nationally is at an over 20 year high.
Tickets… Tell your supporters to stop breaking the law. Otherwise you’ll be the pro crime anti-civility candidate.
MTA… If he actually controlled it, versus Albany, maybe you’d have a point
Water bills… If New Yorkers paid their bills, then maybe they wouldn’t be 100s of million in the rears

Sep. 16 2009 10:16 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn NY

Yes, the press is intimidated by, slavish to, and just plain dumb about Bloomberg.

Sep. 16 2009 10:15 AM
Hugh Sansom from Brooklyn NY

Here are some lines for Bill Thompson:

"We don't need no stinkin' billionaires."

"Mike, you can be mayor of Wall Street. Leave New York to the human beings."

"If Mike Bloomberg is such a believer in democracy, why's he trying to buy re-election?"

"If you're so concerned about New York, Mike, why don't you donate some of your billions to the city?"

"Mike, how can New Yorkers respect someone who never shows anyone worth less than a billion any respect?"

Sep. 16 2009 10:14 AM
Marissa from Manhattan, NY

I'm not at all impressed with Bill Thompson's speech - though a Democrat, I think his arguments are ridiculously superficial. Sure, the majority of the population wants lower tax rates and rent,better service from the MTA, more jobs, etc. but Bloomberg didn't cause those failures! The price increases are simply the residue from a lack of investment over time. At some point, we all have to pay the piper.

Sep. 16 2009 10:12 AM
Bobby G from East Village

"Eight is enough" makes me think of "Ocotomom Bill."

On a more serious note, the referenda on term limits was bought and sold by Ronald Lauder. If you think referenda is good democracy just look at California. Voting limits terms. Just look at how many City Council incumbents were ousted yesterday.

Sep. 16 2009 10:07 AM
Robert from NYC

Who cares what Koch thinks anymore. Personally I don't think he doe think!!

Sep. 16 2009 10:05 AM
Robert from NYC

And I think it's a shame that I could not vote in the primaries along with thousands of other because we are registered Independents!!!! An eight wasn't just enough it was too much. It's time to dump this guy we don't need a despot ruling the city and deciding what's good for us. The man buys his way everywhere and in everything and that's the fault of those of us who let him. Dump him, we have the chance now, let's do it.

Sep. 16 2009 10:05 AM
Bobby G from East Village

Question: How many people voted in yesterday's primary?

Comment: I think that it is shameful that Brian Lehrer, a concerned citizen if there ever was one, was not permitted to vote because election workers were late in opening up his polling station.

Sep. 16 2009 09:43 AM

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