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New Casino Coming to Queens?

Monday, August 31, 2009

Ken Lovett, Daily News Albany bureau chief, talks about the bidding process to run a casino at Aqueduct Race Track in Jamaica, Queens and, Lisa Fogarty, Queens Chronicle assistant editor, talks about the neighborhood's reaction to the casino.

Guests:

Lisa Fogarty and Ken Lovett

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Comments [9]

Barbara Greenberg from manhattan

My previous post has a typo - 26 MILLION visitors per year. Its business on conventions alones dwarfs that of NYC

Sep. 01 2009 03:09 AM
Barbara Greenberg from manhattan

My husband's 2 cents are in. This may be the sole topic upon which we agree.

Ishamael's comments are innaccurte. Vegas get some 26,000 visitors per year. Aprox. 30% of revenues come from hotel services including food, 30% come from shopping and the balance from gambling. While the machines are mmost profitable per capita, real money is made at table games which require shi,ts of full time employees.

Hotels without gaming facilities can no longer compete against those who do. New Yorkers and Jersians now regurlarly visty AC, Mt. Air
ty, Pocono Downs and the Sands. They come by car, bus and train. They come for the entertainment and a chance to go home with money. These adults seem to be able to manage their hard earned money appropriately. All this while the Borscht Belt and upstate NY is dead.

Gaming is a hobby of over 50,000,000 Americans. To ignore that simple fact is folly. A race track at Aqueduct would have the same beneficial effects that such racinos have had at Yonkers and nationwide. A vote against is a vote agains progress.

Sep. 01 2009 03:04 AM
Edward C. Greenberg from manhattan

Incredibly the discussion omitted even a mention of Empire City @ Yonkers Raceway. Their 5,300 machines have saved the track, New York horse farms, generate millions of dollars to government coffers and have created thousands of jobs.

We live in both Manhattan and Mt. Pocono, Pa. where the bankrupt Mt. Airy Casino was rebuilt and directly created 1,000 permanent jobs and millions of dollars in revenue for our county.Local businesses supply the casino with food, carpeting, linen, entertainment and on and on. There has been .no increase in crime attributable to the casino.

In Bethlehelm Pa.a long abandoned steel mill has been reborn as the Sands Casino and hotel. The racinos at Pocono Downs operated by Mohegan Sun and The Meadows in Pittsburgh have have energized their local economies.

When gambling is discussed please have at least one guest who knows something about the industry. Neither guest had any background in the gaming and/or hospitality industries.

Ask the people in Yonkers, Mt. Pocono, Wilkes Barre-Scranton and Bethlehelm what their actual experience with casino/racinos has been.

New York's resistance to such ventures is a major reason why New York is losing both tourist dollars and jobs. Casinos have multiplied throughout the United States because they have a proven record of improving the areas in which they are built.

I fought for 20 years for gambling in the Poconos. Invariably the opponents had little to no experience in or knowledge of, the industy. Many of those whose hysterical fears slowed the process now can be found dining,dancing, shopping and even gambling in the establishments they fought.

I am not now and have never been employed in the industry. My wife and I have gambled in over 150 casinos. We are baffled those New Yorkers who have not educated themselves on the subject yet have formed intransigent opinions based not on facts but rather myths.

Sep. 01 2009 02:48 AM
hjs from 11211

calls
not just poor people need the help of us northeasterns but also midwest farmers, rocky mountainer, alaskans and corporate welfarers

Aug. 31 2009 12:20 PM
hjs from 11211

why are u calling me a racist? my taxes support the whole country, white and black!

i sure would like to meet u one day! i could use a laugh also.

Aug. 31 2009 12:16 PM
Calls'em As I Sees'em from Langley, VA

HJS - don't you want to help the poor folk in Albany and Alabama? Are you a racist? Aren't we all brothers and sisters? Aren't we a global village? For God’s sake have a heart. You believe in God, don’t you?

Aqueduct is the perfect place for gambling in NYC, there are already lots of sleazy motels as well as drug dealers and prostitution in that Police Precinct, so basically all the "support services" for gambling are all in place. LOFL. You also have the “A” train and the Belt Parkway to easily bring the poor suckers into the joint. Then the money raised can be used by Bloomie to help Manhattan. LOFL (again). You NYers are so naive.

Aug. 31 2009 12:10 PM
hjs from 11211

great idea NYC needs more money so we can send more money to albany and alabama. we pay they take.

Aug. 31 2009 10:55 AM
Ishmael from Philadelphia

Brian -- your guest mentioned non-slot games - blackjack, etc. This is a red herring. The way casinos make money nowadays is purely through slot machines, by far the most addictive and predatory form of gambling legal in America.

I suggest you address the damning stats out there - which include a study by Professor Earl Grinols of Baylor University, finding that more than half of all casino revenues come from people who have serious gambling problems.

This industry is fundamentally predatory -- and that's really being under-reported.

Aug. 31 2009 10:46 AM
graham from UWS

Addiction, poverty, broken families and individuals, and profits for sociopaths. This is a terrible idea.

Aug. 31 2009 10:44 AM

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