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Qaddafi in Englewood

Friday, August 28, 2009

Mike Kelly, columnist at The Record of New Jersey, talks about the uproar over the Libyan leader's plans to pitch his tent in Englewood, NJ when he visits the U.N. next month. Plus, Congressman Steve Rothman(D-NJ 9th) talks about his efforts to prevent Qaddafi's stay in Englewood.

Guests:

Mike Kelly and Congressman Steve Rothman

Comments [22]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Alison, after serving only 8 years of a "life sentence" for murdering 270 people, why would an APPEAL of the conviction be so "shocking" that the only recourse for scotland is to release him while he is still alive?

Prisoners appeal their convictions all the time. Why would THIS conviction be treated so differently?

Anything to do with blood for oil? Oil contracts for the uk?

Plus it was a nice touch of the Welcome Home crowd in libya to wave the flag of scotland.

/sarc

Aug. 28 2009 07:40 PM
Alison from Inwood

Edward is dead wrong. Little compassion is on display; UK authorities released al-Megrahi in exchange for him DROPPING his appeal, although they deny it.

And when the new appeal was granted in Oct. 2008, the Foreign Office and Crown Office were very active in stalling the process. They were well aware at this time of his cancer diagnosis.

Could the ongoing manufactured press maelstrom be pressure on Scottish authorities? They still have the right to call a new Fatal Accident Inquiry.

As for oil money, are listeners aware that if the appeal had resulted in acquittal, Libyan payments to the victims' families could have been challenged?

The NYT claims Libya "acknowledged responsibility"; it did not. It accepted responsibility for the actions of its citizens. If no citizen stands convicted...

Aug. 28 2009 03:29 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The soviet military shot commercial airliner KAL 007 out of the sky in 1983. 269 died.

The soviets offered NO compensation. What do "progressives" have to say about that?

Aug. 28 2009 10:54 AM
Mike C. from Downtown Manhattan

As far as blasting the names of the Lockerbee victims, wouldn't that be disturbing the peace of the neighborhood? The reactions of the press and the media to a leftist despot who wishes to pitch a tent on a billionaire's property makes for hilarious satire.

Aug. 28 2009 10:50 AM
Ben Fraser from Lambertville, NJ

I was in Mali a few years ago when he pitched his tent in Timboktou. It was a crazy scene- many many transport planes, huge security presence, about 50 suv's. He likes to put on a show...

Aug. 28 2009 10:49 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

I would add read the names of the 270 who died in the Pan Am 103 bombing outside the BRITISH EMBASSY, because it seems that the BRITISH need to be reminded that 270 died.

The British feel compelled by the need for oil contracts, to show compassion to the murderer rather than to the 270 victims and their families.

Aug. 28 2009 10:48 AM
Mario from queens

It would be interesting see people being as active against another and bigger terrorist "George Bush" that killed thousands of innocent people all over the world or "casualty of war" and the carriers of his mission (American soldiers) and taking American Money!

What about innocent people around the world?? Are the Americans the only lives worth?

Perhaps we should be allowed to manipulate how and where friends and supporters of drunk drivers (that killed someone) to many this is not just accident but an act of terror against the life of others that lost someone they cared for!

Aug. 28 2009 10:47 AM
hjs from 11211

just last week congressman Wally Herger said "God bless you,” and “There is a great American" to a man claiming to be a “proud right-wing terrorist”,

Aug. 28 2009 10:46 AM
Allen McDuffee from Brooklyn

Kelly reporting that Qadaffi will have 30 virgin body guards is irresponsible and quite preposterous.

Kelly pointed out that he was unable to confirm as to whether or not the rest of the story is true, but was more than certain that the 30 virgin body guards was true.

Aug. 28 2009 10:44 AM
Gary from UWS

Hey, let Qaddafi stay at Charlie Rangel's place in Harlem. I heard Charlie has a couple of rent-stabilized apartments with plenty of room for Qaddafi and his retinue and traveling virgins, maybe even space for a camel or two.

Aug. 28 2009 10:43 AM
Mike C. from Downtown Manhattan

Can't help but be reminded of when Arafat used to come to the UN. Different despot, same old sensationalism from all sides.

Aug. 28 2009 10:43 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

What's the big deal?
He is free to come here....and people here are free to protest his presence.

Aug. 28 2009 10:43 AM
artista from greenpoint

hjs, yes, much ado about nothing, what else is new?
CAn we remember that the CIA opined after the bombing that IRAN was in fact responsible, as payback for our having murdered almost 300 people, including over 60 kids, in an civilian Iranian airliner just four months before (missile fired by the USS Vincennes, which won its commander a hero's welcome when he arrived back home in San Diego)?
(We were protecting Saddam Hussein in the Iran/Iraq War at the time)
Maybe, just maybe, Libya agreed to accept responsibility in order to lose its pariah status.
So yes, we need the oil, but a Libyan sacrifice may have been the route to get it.

(And i can't help remembering we killed one of Kadaffi's little children when we bombed his royal tents, trying to kill him)

we are sheep.

Aug. 28 2009 10:43 AM
Marc from East Village

The whole "pitch the tent" thing sounds like only slightly veiled racism to me. Is Qaddafi a jerk, and anti-American? Probably, so; one among many. Is he out to create a spectacle? Sure! Just like our politicians do, albeit in a different (Western) manner. If the guy's country owns the property, let him pitch a tent, or a fit, or anything he wants.

Aug. 28 2009 10:42 AM
hyderabadi from south orange

why don't you remind the listeners that american bombing killed k"s daughter?

Aug. 28 2009 10:42 AM
Smokey from LES

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

If we treat other leaders with disrespect, expect the same when we visit them. Imagine all the reasons why we would deserve such treatment from Iraq and Central and South America and on and on.

Aug. 28 2009 10:41 AM
olivier Marcon from brooklyn

what about the "noble" robert Mugabe, to some extent medviedev/putin(regarding Tchechnya) where do we draw the line..... I remember a similar situation in colleage when Louis farrakhan came to speak....

Aug. 28 2009 10:41 AM
Lazarus Chambers

Terrorism of all kinds should not be tolerated. The story of lockerbie is told often, but that it was a retaliatory bombing for the Iranian airbus is never stated. Should Libyans, prevent any US head of state from entering its territory or any other country that the US has purported to have committed a terrorist act against.

Aug. 28 2009 10:40 AM
kai from NJ-NYC

Most of the supposed national security hardliners are also hardcore property rights protectors: Which one trumps the other?

Aug. 28 2009 10:39 AM
plp from queens

How about the local the zoning laws?? Well since we don't enforce any immigration laws that are on the books then I guess this will slide too.

I totally agree with hjs!!

Aug. 28 2009 10:39 AM
Matt from Brooklyn

The US government proudly harbors terrorists, as long as they're terrorists that attacked our "enemies", like those that blew up cuban airplanes.

Aug. 28 2009 10:37 AM
hjs from 11211

much ado about nothing?

we do NEED the oil don't we??

u so can sit in that SUV!

Aug. 28 2009 09:51 AM

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