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Snowden, Surveillance, and Fixing the NSA

Thursday, August 01, 2013

Karen Greenberg, head of the Center on National Security at Fordham University discusses what practical changes to our government's surveillance systems that may restore a balance between privacy and security, from more oversight to limiting the number of people who have access to phone and email records. Plus: the latest on Edward Snowden, who has left the Moscow airport and been granted asylum by Russia.

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Comments [23]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Em said:

"Personally I do not want people looking into our personal information who are thinking solely about their bottom line. "

Err, what do you think Google/Gmail is?

Aug. 01 2013 08:47 PM
Em

So much that is so misleading in this segment, especially given the extremely small amount of time given over to this crucial subject over the past weeks by TBLS. I'll just point out the most glaring OMISSION from this discussion: the privatisation of National Security. Why isn't the reversal of this policy not more of a central issue? Our National Security should not be a for-profit cause. What message does that send to the "agents" themselves? The mendacious implications of this policy are so apparent and yet it has been barely touched upon by any Media outlet. Personally I do not want people looking into our personal information who are thinking solely about their bottom line. We have bred a generation of mercenaries, and if you feel these people are safe to trust, I have a Nigerian Prince I'd like to introduce to you. People seem to have forgotten the 2008 revelation by two NSA operatives of eavesdropping on intimate calls between military personnel and their spouses. If this is what the "officials" are doing for fun, what do you think the hackers employed by private "security" contractors are getting up to for all sorts of other motives? I have no idea why the business community isn't up in arms over this, since the potential for industrial espionage is obvious. This is only emphasised by the today's Guardian article about XKeyscore, which you also managed to avoid talking about in this segment.

BTW, the ludicrous suggestion that the Black Hat conference is some civil libertarian love-fest and not just a trade show for how to make tons of money out of information technology, (most of the big bucks coming from the government and it's contractors) is pathetically out of touch with reality, although you did conveniently manage to cut out of your clip a couple of very nice heckles General Alexander was responding to. I'm sure the NSA appreciates WNYC's support in this difficult time.

Aug. 01 2013 05:16 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

John, pun aside. That's rather disappointing.

Aug. 01 2013 11:04 AM
BK from Hoboken

Yes, John from the office of intolerance used the same cheeky lines the other day on here- attacking Mr Greenwalds private life to somehow make up for indisputable facts. NSA keeps denying allegations, until factual documents are presented and ten they backtrack. And supporters like John attack the reporters private life.

Aug. 01 2013 10:57 AM
john from office

Sheldon, that was just some red meat.

Aug. 01 2013 10:49 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

Ah - John, so you are indeed bringing up people's sexuality for no reason. Previous apologies retracted.

Aug. 01 2013 10:34 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Edward from Wash Heights----

Great point (as usual) about a prisoner spy swap that gets Snowden back, LOL.

Aug. 01 2013 10:34 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

One of the reasons this issue became larger and larger by the day is that the NSA has been monitoring important members of the political, corporate establishment. It’s not just me or many of the listeners, average Americans, but elites in our society. Much like the Stasi of Communist East Germany spying on all.

Aug. 01 2013 10:32 AM
BK from Hoboken

Sorry. *pulled over for speeding. Autocorrect really has a mind of its own regarding Trayvon tragedy.

Aug. 01 2013 10:30 AM
Oscar from NY

The only reason America is angry at mr Snoden is because he's unintetionally working for the bad guys, you see George W Bush a while ago infiltrated the phones so he and others can find out the moles that are working against America, even from 911 the good guys were already and have always been one step ahead of the terrorist within, even mr Spitzer scandal was purposely caused by mr Bush and friends and so the bad guys sent Snowden to snoop around and find out who knows what , so that's why he's a spy in the American system, or do you think that Russia is saving him for now so they can get the info too..

Aug. 01 2013 10:29 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Anyone who thinks KGB Putins Russia is a civilized, progressive place,

Remember Alexander Litvinenko - Poisoned by the KGB.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko

Aug. 01 2013 10:28 AM
BK from Hoboken

I can't believe the lack of coverage on this. CNN had George Zimmerman being killed over for speeding over this! Where is the outrage?!

Aug. 01 2013 10:28 AM
Patriot from NYC

In my opinion, Snowden is a traitor whose citizenship should be revoked. He'd rather see our country's enemies have an unfettered hand and doing harm to the lawful citizens of this country.

If he was true American and believes in the rule of law, he'd come home and face the music for his actions. Instead, he cowardly hides behind Putin and that country of rouges.

The only thing fitting for this guy is the Gallows Pole.

Aug. 01 2013 10:24 AM
Louis from Jersey Shore

For a Security Guy, he should of plan his own security better.

Aug. 01 2013 10:24 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

This was Obama'S "flexibility" that he whispered to Medvedev for Putin.... as in, "I'll let you do anything and keep my mouth shut."

BHO - "Peace through weakness"

Aug. 01 2013 10:24 AM
james L

To Peter from the Bronx.

Excellent points you made. Wish the rest of the US was as intelligent and thoughtful.

Aug. 01 2013 10:22 AM

@Peter...amen

Aug. 01 2013 10:21 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

It's official.

Edward Snowden is a spy for KGB Putins Russia.

All the US has to do is pick up some high value Russian spy in the US and do a prisoner exchange.

Snowden will be back in the US to stand trial for espionage.

Aug. 01 2013 10:20 AM
john from office

Greenwald is a frustrated sodomite that is upset the USA will not allow his boyfriend in the nation. I forgot, who named him our protector or is he a self appointed hero.

Snowden will now be easier to capture and or neutralize. I vote for neutralization, the fact that he is being helped by Putin should raise alarm bells in those who hold him as a hero.

Aug. 01 2013 10:19 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Hey, where's the reset-reset button with Obama's BFF Vladimir Putin??

Barry's foreign policy mantra- "Peace through weakness"

Aug. 01 2013 10:19 AM

Why are we even arguing if there should be some level of transparency in a Democracy? This is absurd...

Translucency? Really??? We have become so used to not having any transparency that we have to come up with a term that somehow justifies not having it at all.

Aug. 01 2013 10:19 AM
RLF from Yonkers

let's talk about the 23 CIA agents not given to Italy, our ally, who they want for kidnapping. We don't think they are criminals so we don't send them back. Why shouldn't other countries that think Snowden isn't a criminal do the same?

Aug. 01 2013 10:17 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

It's only natural and HEALTHY that when the nation feels genuinely threatened, it will accept greater government intrusion, but when the fear passes that it will not. This has always been true. It's good to live in a country where the people have a healthy but not overly paranoid distrust of power in general, and governmental power in particular. This is what makes America special. It is the job of the people to regulate its government.

Aug. 01 2013 10:14 AM

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