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The Rising Number of Older Immigrants

Monday, July 29, 2013

New York City has the largest number of foreign-born immigrants of any city in the U.S., which presents specific challenges for the city. Jonathan Bowles, director of Center for an Urban Future, talks about the changing demographics of New York's older residents.

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Comments [13]

Frank from NYC

This segment is blowing my mind. How can anyone justify increasing benefits to elderly immigrants? They've not contributed, so why on earth should they collect? It's the basic social compact. It's maddening to me to see one shopper after another in line in front of me, old, and unable to communicate in English, whipping out that EBT card to pay for groceries that I'm paying cash for. Wait until the 12 million undocumented workers are added under reform bill - this situation will get even worse! In Canada, you cannot become a benefit-receiving immigrant upon retirement if you arrive after 45 years old!!

Jul. 29 2013 09:58 PM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

"They come here and use services but do not contribute to the economy."

Cliff, have you taken a taxi or bought fast food recently, sat down at a restaurant, or stayed in a hotel? Chances are, you were served by an immigrant.

Ironically, most home care attendants who take care of elderly New Yorkers are immigrants themselves, who make low wages with little benefits or pensions.

I'm not going to defend people who game the system but please don't paint with such a broad brush.

Jul. 29 2013 11:49 AM
Christine from Westchester

Why is it that no matter what is done, it's never enough to guys like this? What are we doing for our non-immigrant populations? Feels like we are more focused on those who have come in than those who were born and raised here.

What is the plan when we're out of funds: in that we have just over spent and over spent? It's not an unlimited funding source.

Jul. 29 2013 11:44 AM
Ralph from Manhattan

I am as blue as they come, but this segment is leaving me shaking my head.

Jul. 29 2013 11:43 AM
The Truth from Becky

I am sure the aging immigrants are aware of the benefits available, same as they were when they arrived.

Jul. 29 2013 11:40 AM
Olga from Queens

I do not mind helping the elderly and needy. But i know in the Russian community the fraud, especially in the medical system is hard to overlook.

It's way beyond benefits, it about the uncontrolled fraud that upsets me.

Jul. 29 2013 11:40 AM
Clif from Manhattan

I can't help but feel that immigrants get better services than citizens, yet we pay for it. They come here and use services but do not contribute to the economy.

Jul. 29 2013 11:39 AM
Jake M from Nassau County

This exposes the fallacy of the pro-immigration economic arguments: The businesses got the benefits of the cheap labor when these folks were young, now that they're old and because they never earned enough, the the taxpayer get to pick up the real costs.

Jul. 29 2013 11:39 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

So the Panamanian person pays Virginia her taxes and New York foots her bill?

Jul. 29 2013 11:38 AM
john from nyc

I think most immigrants know about the benefits available better then most people that listen to this radio station.

Jul. 29 2013 11:35 AM
Christine from Westchester

I have sympathy for those who are elderly and in need but let me ask how one expects to come into a country (legally or otherwise) and then be handed things. Foodstamps, healthcare, social security that they have not contributed to. Is this what the tax payers are expected to have as a safety net? That those who come in just expect to be taken care of? What's the role of their families in caring for them? I know others have said this but when my family emmigrated, they were looking for jobs, not handouts.

Jul. 29 2013 11:34 AM
Edna from Manhattan

And this segment is why immigration reform is dead in the water. There just isn't the money - even for the citizens who have been paying into the system their whole life.

Jul. 29 2013 11:34 AM
Ramona from Bronx

The city hasn't done enough?!! What about the person themselves? I think the taxpayer is tapped out. Sorry.

Jul. 29 2013 11:30 AM

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