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Secretary Kerry in the Middle East

Tuesday, July 23, 2013

The Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem (israeltourism/flickr/flickr)

Aaron David Miller, Middle East analyst and vice president for new initiatives and a distinguished scholar at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, discusses Secretary of State John Kerry's push for a Middle East peace process. Plus: updates on the U.S. role in Syria.

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Comments [21]

Orange Julius


Why doesn't WNYC report on what is happening in Gaza? There is NO occupation in Gaza. Hamas rules it without opposition. In fact, it now rules it without even allowing AL Aribiya to report: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-closes-news-media-outlets.html?_r=0

Sadly, WNYC and ON THE MEDIA do not report on what is going on in Gaza or about Hamas. WHY?

Jul. 26 2013 02:42 PM
John A

Just gotta love the idea of peace in the middle east, to continue to accept that as a possibility. Carl, Noach, thanks.

Jul. 23 2013 11:27 AM
Carl from queens

The most abused word in the dictionary used to be ''friend''. It is now second behind ''terrorist''. The most neglected word in the dictionary is WHY.Until we start to see what we do to others, instead of only seeing what others do to us, peace will be impossible.

Jul. 23 2013 10:44 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Independent Noach, do you have any insight as to why anti-Zionist "Jews" live in the State of Israel, and not in fellow anti-Zionist Gaza, Ramallah?

Would not your anti-Zionist "Jews" be welcomed with open arms by their political allies?

Jul. 23 2013 10:44 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Any European, African, Asian who lives in North America and claims to oppose occupation, don't look know but YOU are brutal occupiers of Native American land.

The same applies to Canada, Australia, and the products of Spanish cultural imperialism south of Texas.

No Double Standards please.

Jul. 23 2013 10:40 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To PJ

The Arabs were the brutal colonizers. The Romans were the brutal occupiers. The Crusaders were the brutal occupiers. The Jews of Israel are just people who came home, and were faced by violent occupiers who forced war upon war on them to this day.

Jul. 23 2013 10:34 AM
distingue

First, there will never be a peace agreement as long as the present Israeli government is in power. I can never understand how, by a miracle, there is a peace deal. it would be totally meaningless without the participation of Hamas.

Jul. 23 2013 10:34 AM
sanych

So, according to Mr. Miller, Kerry and Obama are trying to stir-up the only quiet area in the Middle East.

Amazing!!!

Jul. 23 2013 10:29 AM
PJ from NJ

Any country or people that brutally colonize and deny people basic rights of self determination is wholly immoral. Israel will never gain the respect it spends so much money gain until it stops this evil occupation.

Jul. 23 2013 10:28 AM

Let me note that theology aside, from a purely /secular/ perspective, I am not convinced that Zionism, /per se/ is so wrong or evil (at least not /inherently/ so).

I mean, I don't see why, nationalist and independence sensibilities and movements are lauded as noble and "progressive" when embraced by just about every other people but when its Jews, it becomes "racist", "imperialist" and "colonialist". Something seems wrong to me with this picture.

Jul. 23 2013 10:27 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Bernie of Brooklyn

First of all the US did NOT FUND the victory in 1948, 1956, nor 1967 ,and only began slightly to help Israel in 1973. So your premise is false.
Second, the US funded the war in Vietnam war, and LOST. Israel has lost no wars yet! Money does not buy victory. The victories were only due to the bravery and determination of the IDF, knowing that failure was simply not an option. Americans can always "go home" when they get tired or lose. Israel is home for the Jewish people. To lose a war means losing the nation.

Jul. 23 2013 10:25 AM
john from office

Brian, Israel keeps track of your show and NPR and all American media. It is a matter of survivial. I am surprised that you are surprised.

Jul. 23 2013 10:22 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

To Noach

The control of the rabbis, who took control after the fall of the Temple, is OVER! My "moshiach" was rabbi THeodore Herzl, the only prophet who in 1897 predicted a Jewish state within 50 years, and his prophecy CAME TRUE almost to the day! The Exile - the "Galut" - IS OVER! The rabbis, who told Jews like my grandmother to stay and that "Hitler will blow over" which led to her annihilation, have no say over ME. And shouldn't have say over anybody, because the rabbis were WRONG. These "ultraorthodox" anti-zionist rabbis are just as wrong today as they were in 1939 when they said that Hitler would "blow over."

Jul. 23 2013 10:22 AM
bernie from bklyn

there's nothing "miraculous" about the 7 victories when they were totally funded by the taxpayers of this country. if that aid was cut, what miracles would happen?

Jul. 23 2013 10:19 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

At least Kerry is trying.

Overrated, empty-handed Hillary Clinton ignored the whole conflict ... and Syria, and Egypt, and Iran, and.........

Jul. 23 2013 10:17 AM

The media uses the term "Ultra-Orthodox" indiscriminately, labeling everyone from the most fanatic and violent "religious-ZIONIST" settlers, to the most zealously ANTI-ZIONIST Orthodox Jews (such as Neturei Karta), under the same "Ultra-Orthodox" label.

"Ultra-/Zionist/" would better describe the "religious" parties in question.

The overwhelming consensus of Torah authorities have always opposed Zionism, from its inception, in all of its forms.

(Additionally, "Ultra-Orthodox" is altogether a highly problematic, tendentious term but that goes beyond the scope of the topic.)

Jul. 23 2013 10:16 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Leave to both the Left wing Jews and the so-called "Ultraorthodox" ghetto Jews, like our Noach here, to be the worst enemies of a secular, democratic JEWISH state. But that is nothing new. Didn't Joseph's brothers sell him to the Ishmaelite slavers, and didn't the 10 tribes eventually disappear? Israel will survive and its Left Wing and "Haredi" Jewish enemies will be the ones disappearing. One through assimilition, and other through irrelevance in the modern world.

Jul. 23 2013 10:10 AM
Nat from NYC

On Syria -- Rather than getting involved militarily, which will only cause us untold pain both in loss of life and vast sums of money, we ought to spend a fraction of what the war hawks would have us spend but on aid to refugees. If we spent some serious cash helping the innocent victims we would not only help people who are in great need, but we would keep the moral high ground without getting our nose into a regional conflict we cannot possibly understand or fix.

Jul. 23 2013 10:07 AM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

Kerry's Mideast Fool's Errand Ignores Reality - Jeffrey Goldberg, Bloomberg

"I think Kerry is on a fool's errand, and I think the collapse of these talks, which is almost inevitable, could have dangerous consequences..... years of violence, including horrific bus-bombing campaigns."

(http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-07-22/kerry-s-mideast-fool-s-errand-ignores-reality.html)

Jul. 23 2013 10:05 AM

1.) Is it not a fact that settlement expansion in the occupied territories has continued all throughout the past twenty-plus years since the Oslo accords?

2.) Does Mr. Miller see any justification for that?

3.) How can any Palestinian take what the Israeli government says seriously when they cannot agree even to something as minor as a mere extension of a /partial/, /temporary/ freeze on /new/ construction in the disputed territories for as little as an additional 60-90 days?

4.) I have seen at least two separate writers in HaAretz praise Mahmoud Abbas and others in his government for making serious efforts at dealing with incitement among Palestinians as well as for their cooperation with Israeli forces in cracking-down on terrorist threats and bolstering security for Israel.

What does Mr. Miller say about this?

5.) Is it not the case that the /existing/ settlement infrastructure in the disputed territories makes it impossible for there to be any viable Palestinian state in any reasonable sense of the word?

6.) Shouldn't the U.S. have long ago issued the following ultimatum to the Israeli government:
A /complete freeze/ on ALL construction and expansion in the disputed territories or a reduction in U.S. financial support will begin?

Jul. 23 2013 10:04 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

"Peace process?" The ongoing "let's crucify the Jewish state" process. No other state on earth but the only Jewish state would still be "negotiating" after being forced to fight and yet miraculous winning 7 wars. Instead of dictating surrender terms to its defeated enemies, Israel is treated worse than Germany or Japan after they lost WWII and being asked to surrender unconditionally.

Jul. 23 2013 10:00 AM

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