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The Changing Workplace

Tuesday, July 09, 2013

Co-Founders of Nextspace and co-authors of Rise of the Naked Economy: How to Benefit from the Changing Workplace, Ryan Coonerty and Jeremy Neuner, advise employees and employers on how to adapt to the changing workplace.

Guests:

Ryan Coonerty and Jeremy Neuner

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Comments [25]

Ken Reich from Modesto, Ca.

Their comment that employers would find greater efficiencies in the use or cost of their office space is very revealing. The question we should all be asking is, “are employers responsible for any of the costs of being in business?” If there are only profits and no risks, then we will truly have socialism, but only for those who own capital. They are saying oonly the workers at the bottom will have free enterprise.

Jul. 09 2013 04:43 PM
Bruce from nyc

Do have to admit that I am not so impressed. Won't dwell on that. It of course is "putting a happy face on workplace insecurity." It is putting a happy face, an optimistic face, because after all, because everyone now is supposed to be a "bourgeois optimist" after all. Right? You used to be supposed to value security, that's what made you bourgeois. Until offering you security didn't make the CEO 788 times what the worker made and there was no longer a viable political opposition. So don't be a Debby Downer, dude. Tighten your belts, and grin and bear being exploited on the ever decreasing chance that you might come out on top. That shouldn't come as a surprise. They're liberal capitalists. And you've gone along with their ever-changing agenda so far, are you really going to stand up and fight now? You've got 'gay marriage" and the assurance that some female managerial executive can make it to the penthouse suite, so all must be well, right?

Jul. 09 2013 12:29 PM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

These guys talk a lot about “freedom.” What freedom? Free to live in poverty? Illness, and with out a health care system? These guys are presenting HELL as being a good thing.

Jul. 09 2013 11:50 AM
rp from manhattan

Like a bazillion other (failed) futurist books, this one will fade away and gather dust on some bookshelves. These guys are COMPLETELY disconnected from the world, and seem to care nothing for human welfare. Their scenario benefits no one but employers (big, corporate ones especially) by offloading all of the risks of the marketplace on to individual (repeat, individual; unorganized; no voice) workers, and take all of the benefits. Wages go down, profits go up. Even the "benefits" to "be free" are illusory. Workplaces can be good, can get better, but only if the employer cares about the workers (and knows that happy workers make better workers).

Too much to say, but the all the other comments capture it.

Jul. 09 2013 11:50 AM
antonio from baySide

Are they advocates of a single payer system in the United States? They mentioned public policies....

Jul. 09 2013 11:49 AM
DOH!

Ex Mayor of Santa Cruz #@!@#!$ why didn't you lead with this?!

Doodze!!! Just.... Doodze!!!

Jul. 09 2013 11:46 AM
Jon from Jersey

I don't agree that remote/independent work is better than 'soul-less' cube farms. small teams always outperform disparate solo performers. I disagree that this ends in everyone is a free-agent culture - there will always be business driven imperatives to hire and staff full-time employees at a firm, be it public or private.

Jul. 09 2013 11:46 AM
Wendy from central NJ

He is wrong about IT contractors. By law, IT contractors have to be employed by someone so that taxes can be withheld.

Jul. 09 2013 11:45 AM
foodaggro from Brooklyn

Sorry, but not everyone works at a tech company, kicking around dime-a-dozen ideas all day.

Jul. 09 2013 11:45 AM
Philip from Brooklyn

I'm Curious - (not meant as a pejorative) how long have these guys been in the workplace? And what is their diversity of experience?

Jul. 09 2013 11:44 AM
Shanti from Jersey City

Brian, you and your guests ignored the previous caller's (Carol's?) important point about how this conversation ignores class issues - how people on minimum wage, for example, can be held solely responsible for their own retirement, etc. Even one of the guest's example about people working in coffee shops is a very privileged scenario.

Jul. 09 2013 11:44 AM

Ryan and Jeremy did not respond to the caller's observation that these "new workers" are paid at a much lower salary than they were in the old business model world. So we are lower paid, and need to rely on 401k or other saving vehicle that gyrates in value with the market fluctuations. Sounds pretty grim unless there isn't some sort of government (oh no!) safety net to take care of people who can't save enough or adequately.

Jul. 09 2013 11:44 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

The guests have a myopic view from their cyber/tech universe. Have they ever done anything else, I’d like know? How about the people who make the chairs the guest sit on, or the cell phones and other tech “things” his culture dream of, where are they suppose to work? At Star Bucks with a latte on the table?

Jul. 09 2013 11:43 AM
Pretzels from Reading, Penna.

I work in the environment the authors describe - basically a contract worker. It's great for people who don't want to be locked into a job for 35 years, kind of crappy in terms of building institutional knowledge and sense of pride and ownership in a position since, in another year or two, what does it matter, you're somewhere else.

Jul. 09 2013 11:42 AM
Mark

Just catching the tail end of this interview, but as a freelancer I don't know how people work in offices all day. My partner worked in the corporate world for 5 years and there were many times when she wasn't that busy. All the meetings, etc seem like such a waste of time. I also agree with a previous commenter that the savings on office rental seems like it would be worth it. Seems like companies just want to make sure everyone is in their seat working nicely:)

Jul. 09 2013 11:42 AM
fuva from harlemworld

(Meant to begin my post with "So,...")

Jul. 09 2013 11:41 AM

If 401Ks are on the way out (and I've never had a job that offers matching funds) can we raise the cap on IRA contributions? Five grand a year ain't enough to retire on, even if you start in your twenties.

Jul. 09 2013 11:41 AM
superf88

(Unless they want to sound like a book from 1994 they need to offer a few solutions to the death of unions.)

Jul. 09 2013 11:40 AM
C.E. Connelly from Manhattan

It think that the essential incoherence of the authors' argument about how this is good for workers is summed up in the phrase, "It's not going to come from them, it's going to come from you" (when referring to retirement funds). How is this better for anyone other computer programmers or internet entrepreneurs who make millions? This for not having to sit at a desk?

Jul. 09 2013 11:39 AM
fuva from harlemworld

Is this clueless/myopic/entitled/self-indulgent techie...nonsense?

Jul. 09 2013 11:39 AM
foodaggro from Brooklyn

No more employers? Everyone will become a contractor? Where did they get their information, and, more importantly, what are these guys smoking?

Jul. 09 2013 11:39 AM
superf88

In a word: Huh?

Jul. 09 2013 11:38 AM
Joe from nearby

These guys sound like cheerleaders for the heartless employment policies being pushed by conservatives these days.

Jul. 09 2013 11:38 AM
Fred from Brooklyn

This is just putting a happy face on work insecurity.

Jul. 09 2013 11:36 AM
Sally from New Jersey

Its also worth noting that real estate pressures have changed the workplace. One of the ways businesses are saving money is by not renting out office space. Its cheaper to give people a laptop or use virtual network from their own homes.

Jul. 09 2013 11:35 AM

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