The Brian Lehrer Show Published by The Brian Lehrer Show Dread Download this audio Want to embed this player? Use the code below. More info. <iframe frameborder="0" scrolling="no" height="130" width="100%" src="https://www.wnyc.org/widgets/ondemand_player/wnyc/#file=/audio/json/30343/&share=1"></iframe> Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Email a Friend Zarela Martinez, owner of Zarela Restaurant, talks about the reaction to the swine flu outbreak both in New York and back home in Mexico. Then, Philip Alcabes, associate professor of Urban Public Health at Hunter College and author of Dread: How Fear and Fantasy Have Fueled Epidemics from The Black Death to Avian Flu, offers a little historical perspective on the swine flue outbreak.