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A Terrorist’s Tale

Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Mark Danner, frequent contributor to The New York Review of Books and author of Torture and Truth: America, Abu Ghraib, and the War on Terror, traces the story of Abu Zubaydah and other U.S. detainees, drawing on a confidential ICRC report.

Guests:

Mark Danner

Comments [13]

douglas paulson from nyc

Thanks for covering this, Brian.

It's amazing that only Spain has the guts to prosecute these criminals.

We have got to do the same here - we have got to thoroughly reject the legacy that the Bush administration as left us with.

We need to establish a precedent of rejecting torture and Bush's subversion of the Constitution so this never happens again.

So please keep covering these stories!

Mar. 31 2009 08:54 PM
John from NYC

Geeze - my high school football coach was allot more tough on me than what these guys got in Gitmo - I hope the Spanish don't indict him!

I didn't here any glee in Brian's voice - thought it was a balanced interview, he actually asked some pointed questions of Mr. Danner. Like the way Brian makes us think.

Not a fan of torture, I still don't think the interrogation methods used can be defined as torture - sorry my opinion. Thought these methods had to be used at the time, but if there are intelligence and law enforcement people who say these interrogation methods really don't work then we need to re-evaluate.

Don't agree with Mr. Danner's comment that this has caused a radicalization of the Muslim world - that element has been there for a long time (1993 WTC bombing; the USS Cole; US Embassy bombings; and 9/11) until he includes this in his calculus of the situation I feel hi arguments are very week.

Mar. 31 2009 11:19 AM
Katherine Jackson from NYC

Hey Brian! Give Mark Danner more time!! This is a crucial story, and Danner is one of the best investigative journalists in the country. We need to hear this torture story as reported by so reliable a voice in much more depth.

Mar. 31 2009 11:05 AM
J Baez from Office

The constitution is not a suicide pact. These individuals have shown themself to be dangerious and without pity. I survived 911 and saw the result of inaction.

Isreal has the right Idea about what to do with those who seek to kill you.

Mar. 31 2009 11:05 AM
Karen from Westchester

thank you Brian for bringing this to us.
why so few comments? so little interest? or is everyone nauseated and speechless?
I had agreed with Pres Obama that we should move on. Now I agree with your guest.
Pls keep this alive.

Mar. 31 2009 11:04 AM
Hugh from Brookyn

We know conclusively who is culpable - we have the signed memo by Donald Rumsfeld.

Mar. 31 2009 10:58 AM
Hugh from Brookyn

With regard to comments from J Baez and Dubai-Boy:

1. Contrary to J Baez's tacit assertion, people remain innocent until proved guilty.

2. The US has indeed established the precedent of bring civil and criminal prosecutions in the US against third-parties. Manuel Noriega languishes in prison in the US to this day. Israel seized foreign nationals abroad -- most famously Adolf Eichmann, seized in Argentina.

It is sobering to hear people essentially offering a _defense_ of US atrocities by saying "Well, these other countries committed atrocities too"

Mar. 31 2009 10:57 AM
jk

This may have wide and strong economic ramifications because America is trying to convince European nations to enact stimulus packages.

These nations have to in turn convince their populations that they should follow American requests.

Mar. 31 2009 10:54 AM
Dubai-Boy from UK

Spain has a LOT of nerve charging Bush admin. DO they realise their own heinous history in torture and savagery?? (and I mean well beyond the "Inquisition" - they've done things that make that a cliche) ... Do we charge Spain, then?

Mar. 31 2009 10:52 AM
J Baez from Office

The Glee in Brian's voice at the prospect of American officials being arrested by a foreign power is an embarrassment.

Why shoudld we care what happens to people that want to kill us. Your priorities are scary

Mar. 31 2009 10:51 AM
Mark from Ocean Grove NJ

If these things were known about Gonzalez at the time of the vote, why did the Democrat-controlled Senate approve him?

Mar. 31 2009 10:50 AM
Hugh from Brookyn

If the lawyers can be prosecuted, so too can the war criminals who gave them their marching orders -- especially George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Condoleezza Rice.

The US will exert great pressure behind the scenes to kill this prosecution just as a spineless President Obama has pretty much made clear that there will be no prosecutions here in the US.

BUT, if the US does this and the Europeans cave, then we can say goodbye to any kind of prosecution of anyone. Other nations will never accede to international demands when the US and other nations that tout the law also flout the law.

By the way, these proposed prosecution makes no mention of American war crimes in Iraq -- bombing civilians, launching an illegal, unjustified war, etc.

Mar. 31 2009 10:47 AM
jk

Did our current vp vote for Gonzales?

The same one who is against tackling national health care this year?
The same one who's son is a lobbyist for the health care industry?

Oh, has Gonzales found a job yet?
He's been having a hard time.

Mar. 31 2009 10:47 AM

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