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Inside Counterterrorism

Monday, June 24, 2013

Philip Mudd, former deputy director of the Counterterrorism Center at the CIA and of the national security branch of the FBI, current research fellow at the New America Foundation and the author of Takedown: Inside the Hunt for Al Qaeda, talks about how the White House, the State Department and the national security agencies worked together.

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Philip Mudd
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Comments [40]

Phyllis from NJ

The smooth dance Philip Mudd did around all of Brian Lehrer's attempts to get a direct answer was scary to listen to. His offhand dismissal of the possibility that anything could have prevented 9/11 was insulting to any well-read American. We didn't have meta-data then but we did have astounding work by FBI street agents whose leads were put aside to our great misfortune. The need for whistleblowers has never been greater.

Jun. 24 2013 03:44 PM
John A

I used to work 'one degree of separation' outside the DoD and they happened to have a lot of coincidentally named employees there, EG Stonebreaker, Armstrong, Harmer... So this time it's: we need an explainer... Who do we send? How about Mudd? It'll be clear as Mudd.

Jun. 24 2013 12:04 PM
jgarbuz from Queens

What has 9/11 have to do with Israel?

Jun. 24 2013 11:51 AM
Louis from Jersey Shore

If you dislike everything our government has done since 9/11, then we cannot support Israel. You choose!

Jun. 24 2013 11:49 AM
David from Fredericksburg, VA

Am I comfortable with massive information in a government "lockbox" - NO!

"Trust us, we're here to protect you" NO, I will NOT take your word that you will properly handle unconstitutionally obtained information.

Jun. 24 2013 11:43 AM
John A

JF from the FUTURE,
JF you FOOL! It's 6,747,000,000
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You can't defend the current drone program in that civilians are killed without declaration of war or with apology. It has to be reviewed publicly.

Jun. 24 2013 11:38 AM
Say What??

"Just pass a law, it's that simple"?? Ask gun control advocates, who have 95% of the population's support, about that. NRA, NSA - vested interests are vested interests. He's right about one thing. It's our fault. We've been handed the evidence on a plate, but where is the protest? Our silence gives assent to our privacy being invaded. That's what these guys are depending on as the best defense for their heinous actions.

Jun. 24 2013 11:38 AM
Nick from UWS

This guy argument is based on the completely absurd idea that the courts and branches of this government have best interests of the people of the US at heart. While the truth is, those entities are 100% bought off by corporate interests that are committing absolute evil in this world. So I'm sorry that Mr Mudd is so naive.

Jun. 24 2013 11:36 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Pre-emptive war causes 'terrorism'.

Jun. 24 2013 11:36 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

All the Nazi's took a personal oath too, Hitler demanded it. Did that save them at Nuremberg? Should taking an oath make any difference if it means you will do immoral or illegal acts to preserve it - that is just fascist.

Jun. 24 2013 11:35 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Please. We KNOW the US Government spies on everyone, everything including businesses and personal lives. STOP LYING. It's not just military spying.

Jun. 24 2013 11:34 AM
Nick from UWS

This guy fully displays the brainwashing common to all government spooks.

Jun. 24 2013 11:34 AM
Taher from Croton on Hudson

This guy is a shill for criminals.

Jun. 24 2013 11:33 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

All three branches of government represent themselves, not the American people.

Jun. 24 2013 11:32 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

"Mistakes"?!?! I think you mean "war crimes". 80 Billion USD per fiscal year poured into the 16 US Intelligence agencies. That's more than the Combined GDP of all three Baltic republics (Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia) but this bleeding heart ex-executive of War Inc. wants us to believe he gives a damn about "extraordinary rendition"? Puhleeeze. His career is over, so it's time to moderate the rhetoric and get a "talking head" job. That is all.

Jun. 24 2013 11:31 AM
RJ from prospect hts

Mr. Mudd left out some key points when responding to the question about extraordinary rendition: People were kidnapped from airports and other neutral places--not in combat or within war zones--and sent to counties they had no relationship to. They have testified to the presence of CIA interrogators or CIA "coaches" to members of the "security" forces of other countries with questions. Other countries--i.e., Canada--have apologized for the outrageous treatment of these poor souls.

Jun. 24 2013 11:31 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Uh.. no one believes the CIA sends people to SYRIA not to get tortured.

Jun. 24 2013 11:29 AM
The Truth from Becky

The truth is that you/we will never know the truth.

Jun. 24 2013 11:29 AM

Phil Mudd was on a very informative Charlie Rose session on Edward Snowden and his revelations.

His read then...What secret(s) has Ed Snowden really revealed? That the US is listening to your electronic communications. BFD.

No abetting of terrorism, there...Prosecute for violating his pledge but not much else.

Jun. 24 2013 11:25 AM
Truth & Beauty from Brooklyn

Mr. Mudd:

Do you think the CIA and/or FBI have ever crossed the line from "intelligence"-based action to paranoia?

Jun. 24 2013 11:23 AM

Well we got his answer when he says 'his friend General Hayden', this guy has no credibility. He is fiction.

Jun. 24 2013 11:23 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

War = Tragedy. Well, that's true. But don't pretend you aren't pushing it. Guy talks like a drug dealer, "This stuff is bad for you, will mess up your life but man is it sweeeeet, how much you want?"

Jun. 24 2013 11:22 AM
Critical DC

Putting a "human face" on the CIA, eh Bri? LOL. How much are the CIA currently paying Snowden? Oh yeah, that's right, he doesn't work for you guys anymore. Since he's talking about our glorious success in Afghanistan, ask him about ex CIA agent Gary Berntsen's book on Tora Bora from 2005 and how good intelligence on the location of Bin Laden was ignored in Dec 2001.

Jun. 24 2013 11:22 AM
Isaiah from Philadelphia

Question for guest from a reporter: How do you remember everything you're not allowed to say, especially once ¸you're out and writing books, etc. --

Jun. 24 2013 11:21 AM
jf from THE TRUTH

CORPORATIONS KILLED 6,746,000,000 IN THE 20TH CENTURY. PROTECTS US AGAINST THEM. FEAR IS NOT THE DANGER, CORPORATIONS ARE.

Jun. 24 2013 11:20 AM

Does the guest have an opinion on Snowden acting as double or triple agent? Some have ventured that he is CIA.

Jun. 24 2013 11:19 AM
John A

Thank-You, FBI for standing up to the executive, et al, publicly on the subject of torture.
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Drones are super chicken in that when any offended want to take arms and get even, the responsible human to fight Mano-a-Mano is 12 thousand miles away hiding behind anonymity.

Jun. 24 2013 11:19 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

Jf, you are far from both reality and from truth. Jihad is REAL, and one doctrine of Islam is to divide the world into "Dar al Islam" and Dar al Harb," or the Abode of Islam (the peace of submission to the will of Allah) and the Abode of Struggle (the parts of the world not under the Law of Allah). Now Jihad can be conducted either peacefully or through violence, but the ultimate goal is to being the world under rule of Allah, as defined by Sharia, the Laws of Allah.

Jun. 24 2013 11:16 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

How many millions or billions of dollars has the CIA paid the Afghanistan leadership to stay on our side?

Jun. 24 2013 11:15 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

What a loser. Next guest, nothing to see/hear/speak (*corrected, pardon the Freudian quip), a couple dumb anecdotes, some defensive hedging, "I sleep very well, thank you." Interview over.

Jun. 24 2013 11:14 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

On 9-11, did the US military shoot down the plane in Pennsylvania?

Jun. 24 2013 11:14 AM

What is his opinion of the disgraceful Thomas Drake affair, Michael Hayden and does he believe that there is a path for whistle blowers.

Jun. 24 2013 11:12 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Did TWA flight 800 get shot down? And if it was shot down, was it terrorism or a US military mistake?

Jun. 24 2013 11:12 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

What a loser. Next guest, nothing to see hear, a couple dumb anecdotes, some defensive hedging, "I sleep very well, thank you." Interview over.

Jun. 24 2013 11:11 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Did the thrill of English Empire Lit tickle the same power-hungry impulse to join the CIA?

Jun. 24 2013 11:11 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Does Mr Mudd support the extra-judicial droning of people overseas? Does he support the extra-judicial killing of people here in the US?

Jun. 24 2013 11:06 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Please ask Mr Mudd about Snowden's allegation that CIA agents in Switzerland got a Swiss man drunk and arrested on purpose in order to gain intelligence on Swiss business deals. Is this standard procedure for the CIA? And why does the CIA treat foreigners so poorly and inhumanely?

Jun. 24 2013 11:03 AM
JF from TRUTHLAND

COUNTER TERRORISM HAS NO TERRORISM TO COUNTER OTHER THAN FORCING MENTALLY RETARDED PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THEY SAY AND ARRESTING THEM FOR TERRORISM. THE ONLY PEOPLE. ALL THEY HAD TO SAY TO THE BOSTON BOMBERS WAS: "WE WILL KILL YOUR FAMILY UNLESS YOU ADMIT TO THIS BOMBING". THE GOVERNMENT IS INVOLVED IN THIS TERRORISM BECAUSE THE TRUE HARM IN THE WORLD IS COMING FROM CORPORATIONS THAT ARE THEIR TRUE BOSSES. http://24.media.tumblr.com/68154540d7770d6b3d0773290557cd4a/tumblr_molq0bFjSN1qarbuho1_r2_1280.jpg

Jun. 24 2013 11:00 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

Let's talk instead about how the CIA used a Polio vaccine program in Pakistan to ID Bin Laden, which has resulted in the murder of 2 dozen people and a wide-spread distrust of Polio vaccine aide workers in that country, putting charities and doctors in danger and increasing the Polio epidemic in the AfPak region.

Jun. 24 2013 09:56 AM
Bob from Brooklyn

WHO CARES. The CIA is a terrorist organization to every non-US person. That's about 7 billion people, fyi.

Jun. 24 2013 09:35 AM

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