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30 Issues: Job Creation and Congress

Tuesday, October 15, 2013

It's Jobs Week on the Brian Lehrer Show's election series "30 issues in 30 Days." See the full 30 Issues schedule and archive here.

David Leonhardt, Washington D.C Bureau Chief for the New York Times and author of the e-book Here's the Deal (Byliner Inc. 2013), talks about how the two candidates in the NJ Senate race, Cory Booker and Steve Lonegan, would approach job creation - and what it says about both parties' approach to jobs on the federal level.

Guests:

David Leonhardt

Comments [63]

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

"Mr. Bad" from NYC, calling others a troll.

You don't see the irony in that.

Go whine to CAIR.

Oct. 16 2013 10:46 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

Denial. It ain't just a river in Egypt. Now start listing every USA sponsored coup/military intervention/terrorist/war crime/criminal regime the US of A has propped up with $ and political cover since Bretton Woods... Not enough space on this entire page.

Cost of calling out an autistic JIDF troll about 1/20 of a billable hour.

Hoisting him with his own petard. Priceless.

Oct. 16 2013 09:28 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Ms. Bad of NYC,

Yes, I am Islamofascist-phobic due to:

- 9/11
- 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103
- 1993 truck bombing of the WTC
- 2005 bombing of London buses and underground
- Boston Marathon bombing
- Sneaker bomber Richard Reid
- Underwear bomber
- Necessary checkpoints at airports to screen passengers and baggage
- Kenyan mall massacre
- Mumbai India massacre
- Fatwa on celebrated writer Salman Rushdie
- Fatwa on Danish cartoonists
- Threats against South Park TV show
- Murder of filmmaker Theo Van Gogh
- Beheading of captives like journalist Daniel Pearl and others
- 100,000+ dead in Syria - 1,000 dead from poison gas
- 1988 poison gassing of Kurds of Halabja Iraq by Sadaam Hussein
- 1998 bombing of two US embassies in Africa...

BTW Mr. Bad, have you read the news? The US nabbed your pal Nazih Abdul-Hamed al-Ruqai - accused mastermind of the Al Qaeda 1998 bombings of two United States Embassies in East Africa, which killed 224 people.

Oct. 16 2013 12:54 AM
Bill from New Paltz from New Paltz NY

Brian:

Why do you treat Mr. Leonhardt so respectfully when he speaks so cavalierly about the facts? In what possible way are we trending toward overextending government outlays in our society, save for a perspective that views taxes as exclusively bad and government policy as a tool for extending the wealth of the wealthy? How are current policies a movement towards Socialism, save in the nightmares of the far right?

Aside from his overgeneralization about the failure of socialist economies, without the slightest nod toward the modified capitalist socialisms of several very successful European economies, he made a special point at one, later juncture about the burden of taxation on American corporations. What about the burden shouldered by American free enterprise in the provision of health insurance to its workers. No European corporations are taxed in this fashion. (This is probably also true for their Asian counterparts.) Every overseas U.S. competitor starts out without the overhead of healthcare.

If we had a national health insurance plan -- i.e., SINGLE PAYER -- American business could compete on a more level playing field.

Where is Mr. Leonhardt on this? When is a tithe (i.e., health insurance) not a tax?

Your greatest failing, Brian, is your graciousness to your colleagues in journalism, especially from the big players like the NY Times. You gave him a free ride here.

Oct. 15 2013 11:01 PM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

You made the same dumb joke in this thread, only it was my mother not my grandmother:

http://www.wnyc.org/story/market-health-insurance/

Your wit is so fresh and cutting, is JIDF recruiting from the Catskills circuit now?

Take my wife please... what a charlatan you are and for who's benefit? Everyone knows you're a fraud. Just hang it up old man, time has left you a musty brain. Better call your nephew and ask him what the hip new put down is, amiright?

Oct. 15 2013 10:31 PM
Martin Chuzzlewit from Manhattan

@Mr. Bad-

Aren't YOU having fun with the computer that grandma got you for your birthday!!!

Oct. 15 2013 09:26 PM
sophia

Which dictatorships?

The overthrow of the democratically elected presidents of: Guatemala, Iran, Chile, Congo to name a few, and the support of the murderous dictators installed in their place with the support of the US:
The Shah, Pinochet and Mobutu.

Eisenhower, Nixon, Reagan and the CIA had an active hand in all those atrocities, while the regimes you name got nothing of the sort from the left. Nothing but your accusations of insufficient criticism.

Your mention of Iran is particularly hilarious, as the CIA itself admitted to overthrowing Mosadegh and installing the Shah, which led directly to the present regime.

Oct. 15 2013 08:18 PM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ sophia

Edward from Blah blah... is a virulent Islamaphobic Zionista for whom a Taliban is hiding behind every woodpile. He used to try and camouflage it but alas subtlety is not his forte. He is not writing back to you but instead answers to the voices in his head. Do not feed the troll.

Oct. 15 2013 03:32 PM

Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights:

You seem somewhat behind the times, my friend.
WBAI is almost totally "Out of Business", I think they let go of most of their paid staff and are making do with BBC wannabees, Amy Goodman, and Gary Null.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/12/business/media/wbai-fm-lays-off-most-of-staff.html?_r=0

I wonder what the failure of the "listener-sponsored" business model in the "BAI" context says about the anodyne WNYC? Does anyone know where to find a link to "NYC's" budget-expense-donations documentation?

Oct. 15 2013 03:17 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia

> When will your American Right denounce their ACTIVE support for dictators all over the world over their disgust with their mass-murder, torture, kidnapping, disappearing, etc.

Which dictatorships?

The Kim family dictatorship?
The Assad family dictatorship?
The 54 year Castro family dictatorship (Fidel to Raul)?
The KGB Putin dictatorship?
The Islamic Regime of Iran theocratic dictatorships?
The Hamas dictatorship?
The Hezbullah dictatorship?

These dictatorships have the backing of your pals on the Left.

Oct. 15 2013 01:51 PM
sophia

Oh. So your idea of "support", is having an actual news program which contains criticisms, as opposed to the Fox "News" idea of continual propaganda of bogeyman.

When will your American Right denounce their ACTIVE support for dictators all over the world over their disgust with their mass-murder, torture, kidnapping, disappearing, etc.

Oct. 15 2013 01:31 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Which host/show/special event on WBAI opposes Hamass, Hezbullah, Islamic Republic of Iran?, Muslim Brotherhood?

Which WBAI program focuses on the Human Rights violations of the Muslim Brotherhood?

WBAI has offered 9/11 conspiracy videos as "premiums" to encourage people to donate to the station.

WBAI presents itself as "progressive" but is in fact and action reactionary.

When will your American Left leave their comrades over their support of Islamism as you claim the American Left left the comrades over their disgust with Stalins pact with Hitler?

Oct. 15 2013 01:12 PM
sophia

Ask them yourself. Of the groups I'm familiar with: MoveOn, Chomsky and WBAI, they don't.

Unless you're conflating not bombing with supporting.

Oct. 15 2013 01:02 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia said:

> Why would the progressive left support groups which deny women their rights, and conflate religion and state?

Ask Moveon.org, ISM, ANSWER, SWP (Socialist Workers Party), Noam Chomsky, WBAI.

Oct. 15 2013 12:58 PM
sophia

Why would the progressive left support groups which deny women their rights, and conflate religion and state?

It's the right which shares those beliefs, not the left.

It was also the right which helped create groups like Al Qaeda by funding religious fundamentalists in Afghanistan in the 70's and overthrowing democracy in Iraq in the 50's.

Oct. 15 2013 12:48 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Mr. Bad from NYC said:

"our country of 450 million souls. Waiting with baited breath...."

450 million?

Wow! Socialist statistics.

Oct. 15 2013 12:43 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia

>> "Like the left recognizes the threat of Islamism?"

> Like the left has realized for a long time, the threat of fundamentalism.

Show us where the left, the "progressive" left, opposes fundamentalism like the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamass, Islamic Republic of Iran, Hezbullah, Al Qada, Taliban.

Oct. 15 2013 12:40 PM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ geTaylor

You wrote:

"Check you oxygen flow - I never said you were a Stalinist.
You are, however, undoubtedly a collectivist -
as are the Nazis and the Socialists."

As are those who believe in a Democratic Republic where the majority exerts political control over the government through a series of elections and the rights of individuals and minorities are respected with reference to a code of founding principles collectively enacted that "constitutes" the primary law from which the power to enact all other laws is derived.

So I guess I'm a collectivist. I suppose you are a Monarchist then, Anarchist, Corporate funded libertarian? Is it divinely inspired, the survival of the fittest where the strong rule the weak... etc. What is the name for your "individualist" political vision for the rule of our country of 450 million souls. Waiting with baited breath....

Oct. 15 2013 12:25 PM
sophia

"Like the left recognizes the threat of Islamism?"

Like the left has realized for a long time, the threat of fundamentalism.

Oct. 15 2013 12:24 PM
sophia

"Where did those who "left the party go?"

Some of them continued to work on political issues like anti-racism, some probably withdrew into private life.

"What about the Soviet communists did they leave the party too?"

If you mean the people living in Russia, that was hardly an option, as is not the case with socialists in modern day countries with socialist elements. So what's your point?

Oct. 15 2013 12:22 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia said:

> I'm not sure why you're repeating my points as though you were arguing against them.

> The American right wanted to leave the Nazis to go on their merry way, while the American left recognized it's threat.

Like the Left recognizes the threat of Islamism?

Oct. 15 2013 12:20 PM
sophia

I'm not sure why you're repeating my points as though you were arguing against them.

The American right wanted to leave the Nazis to go on their merry way, while the American left recognized it's threat.

Oct. 15 2013 12:10 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia said:

> 1)That was the point at which many American Communists who believed in Internationalism, unlike Stalin, left the party; unlike the American Right, which retained affection for Germany until Pearl Harbor.

Stal;in retained his affection for Germany until Germany invaded Russia.

Where did those who "left the party" go? What about the Soviet Communists? Did they "leave the party" too?

Oct. 15 2013 12:10 PM

My bad -

I forgot to post the link http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/14/obamacares-website-is-crashing-because-it-doesnt-want-you-to-know-health-plans-true-costs/

Oct. 15 2013 12:09 PM

This might be more appropriate for the "government by data management" thread from last Friday, but the collectivist thought exposed has relevance for the instant discussion.

"Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are"

"A growing consensus of IT experts, outside and inside the government, have figured out a principal reason why the website for Obamacare’s federally-sponsored insurance exchange is crashing. Healthcare.gov forces you to create an account and enter detailed personal information before you can start shopping. . . “Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.” (Emphasis added.) . . ."

(A case of having to sign up for your plan before you find out what's in it)

Oct. 15 2013 12:07 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The War which the right did it's best to stay out of, and the Germany it either sympathized with or wanted to stay neutral of until it got too embarrassing.

The FAKE "anti-war", isolationists wanted the US to stay out of the War, to benefit National Socialist Germany.

To set the record straight, the US declared War on Imperial Japan on December 7/8 in response to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Four days later, December 11, National Socialist Germany declared War on the US - first. The US reciprocated by declaring War on National Socialist Germany.

If National Socialist Germany did not declare war on the US, the US would have stayed out of the War longer - which would have given National Socialist Germany time to dig in and tighten its grip.

Oct. 15 2013 12:05 PM
sophia

No honor among dictators certainly.

It was the pact itself which was considered a betrayal by people who had supported Communist Russia prior to the pact.

Again, Soviet Communism is not modern socialism, no matter how much easier that would make it for you.

Oct. 15 2013 12:02 PM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The Great Betrayal?

Soviet Socialist Stalin was OK with his pact with his National Socialist comrades until Hitler sneakily broke the pact and invaded Russia.

Stalin was OK with Hitler until Hitler invaded Russia in 1941.

BOTH invaded Poland.

No honor among socialist thieves?

Oct. 15 2013 11:56 AM
sophia

Although I covered this in my previous post:

1)That was the point at which many American Communists who believed in Internationalism, unlike Stalin, left the party; unlike the American Right, which retained affection for Germany until Pearl Harbor.

Oct. 15 2013 11:56 AM

sophia:

That would also be the war that the Socialists signed a treaty with the Nazis to enable both of their early depredations against Poland?

Oct. 15 2013 11:47 AM

Mr. Bad from NYC

@ geTaylor

"Oh yes I'm a secret Stalinist. . ."

Check you oxygen flow - I never said you were a Stalinist.
You are, however, undoubtedly a collectivist -
as are the Nazis and the Socialists.

"Pulling together is the aim of despotism and tyranny.
Free men pull in all kinds of directions.”

Oct. 15 2013 11:45 AM
sophia

@GeTaylor

"how would I distinguish it from Socialism"

Maybe by the fact that the wealthy and corporations were fairly likely to side with Nazism, while being completely opposed to Communism?

"Oh, your right Germany lost the Second World War."

The War which the right did it's best to stay out of, and the Germany it either sympathized with or wanted to stay neutral of until it got too embarrassing.

Oct. 15 2013 11:41 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ geTaylor

Oh yes I'm a secret Stalinist. Once again you cut me to the core... I defer to your inimitable wit, as always.

Oct. 15 2013 11:35 AM
sophia

1) The point of Nazism was the Nationalism: Race; which was what distinguished it form the point of Internationalist Socialism: The Worker in any country.

2)Corporations love China, that's how Communist it hasn't been for, oh, a couple of generations. No safety net, no regulations. More a feudal system which is what corporations love and are working toward in this country with the help of the ignorant Tea-Party crowd.

The Nordic countries are hardly closed, and the if we can't find common grounds on basic needs because of race, maybe that we should work on combating the racism, instead of using it as an excuse.

3)The non-aggression pact with Germany, was considered to be a great betrayal, and the reason most American Communists left the Party.

4) Communism does not equal modern socialism, as should be obvious to any but the willfully ignorant.

Oct. 15 2013 11:30 AM

Mr. Bad from NYC:

Walter Duranty, a New York Times reporter from that era would definitely back you up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Duranty

Oct. 15 2013 11:30 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

Nazism rejected Marxism outright (the foundation or socialism) and instead substituted a dictatorship (political organization) under-girded by the NAZI racial/political ideology based on the Volk (people/state) struggle against their traditional political enemies. It has nothing to do with socialism as you or anyone else defines it.

Oct. 15 2013 11:30 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ Edward

All your labels are irrelevant and demonstrate a painful ignorance of history. NAZI Germany became a dictatorship under Adolph Hitler shortly after he came to power as chancellor in 1933. (Enabling Act). Nazi Germany was NOT a socialist county, "Socialist" had a different meaning in Europe and still does. The massive public works projects and economic reforms Hitler introduced were much more akin to the FDR era New Deal/social welfare programs than the communist USSR command economy.

Oct. 15 2013 11:24 AM

Sophia:

"Nazism, or National Socialism in full (German: Nationalsozialismus), is the ideology and practice associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party and state . . . "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

How would I distinguish it from the socialism practiced by its contemporary -
the Soviet Union under Stalin?

Oh your right, Germany lost the Second World War.

Oct. 15 2013 11:20 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

sophia said:

> 1) National Socialism is Extreme Right, as was universally acknowledged up until Lucianne Goldberg's idiot son decided to create new mythology for the right.

Nazi Germany called itself National SOCIALIST Germany back in the 1930's - NOT 2013.

> 2) The way the right proclaims any failing country "socialist" while leaving out the most socialist and successful countries of the Nordic region is further proof of it's willful ignorance.

How Multi-Cultural is the "Nordic" region, or China for that matter? Socialism may work in a closed society with common values.

For all the proponents of the glories of Socialism, don't sweep the 1939 National Socialist and Soviet Socialist AKA Hitler/Stalin non-aggression pact under the rug - and their invasion of Poland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact

Oct. 15 2013 11:17 AM
sophia

1) National Socialism is Extreme Right, as was universally acknowledged up until Lucianne Goldberg's idiot son decided to create new mythology for the right.

2) The way the right proclaims any failing country "socialist" while leaving out the most socialist and successful countries of the Nordic region is further proof of it's willful ignorance.

Oct. 15 2013 11:09 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

The greatest example of the evils of socialism is

national socialist germany.

Oct. 15 2013 11:01 AM

The concept of wise government authority progressively jump-starting, guiding, restraining, and growing economic enterprise to the efficient benefit of all citizens is well proven in the cybernetic revolution of the past 30 years. Wasn't it government policies that created and grew Apple Computer and the Internet's World Wide Web? Haven't government rules and regulations delivered the "first in history" National Healthcare Insurance Exchanges?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/robert-gibbs-health-care_n_4098398.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/10/14/five-thoughts-on-the-obamacare-disaster/

Isn't the NSA even now developing the databases that will be required for the socially safe networks of the future?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-collects-millions-of-e-mail-address-books-globally/2013/10/14/8e58b5be-34f9-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_print.html

Oct. 15 2013 10:59 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Socialism IS a failure. Look at Greece, Spain, Portugal, Cuba, Venezuela, the imminent collapse of the EU.

Oct. 15 2013 10:55 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

@ MorganPaar

"Socialist". You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. All those countries have market based economies, if a market sets prices (as opposed to command economy where govt. does) it is not a socialist economy by definition.

Oct. 15 2013 10:55 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

If the Minimum Wage was raised to $20 per hour, Inflation would skyrocket.

The market would be able to bear higher prices across the board.

Oct. 15 2013 10:53 AM
antonio from baySide

Ugh. So many interesting callers just got brushed aside in the sake of time... How can a guest be allowed to get away with such a myopic statement..."socialism failed." Both systems have to be unpacked...
On second thought what we have isn't capitalism anyway. it's is a feudalism.

Oct. 15 2013 10:52 AM

Socialism has failed? That will be big news to China, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Norway, Ireland, New Zealand, Belgium and many other Socialist economies.

Oct. 15 2013 10:51 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Bring jobs BACK to the US.

Incentivize companies to bring jobs BACK to the US with Tax breaks. End offshoring of jobs.

The US should end all importation of oil from OPEC and go 100% with domestic oil production. That will result in job creation, end the outflow of dollars for overpriced OPEC oil.

Oct. 15 2013 10:51 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

Simple economic plan:

1.) Cut military spending drastically.
2.) Introduce mandatory paid youth service (1 yr), offer alternate job service programs for those who don't want to serve in the military.
3.) Introduce single payer health insurance, raise limit on payroll taxes to ensure SSI is safe for next 100 years.
4.) Heavily tax the finance industry. I repeat heavily tax all financial transactions outside of individual retirement accounts.
5.) Incentive employer training/hiring through tax incentives. Don't hire the trainees? No tax break.
6. Raise Federal minimum wage to $10.00/hr.

Stand back and watch economy hit 5% GDP growth + annually.

Oct. 15 2013 10:49 AM

Socialism has been great for Scandinavia. It works in Germany auch

Oct. 15 2013 10:46 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

If the minimum wage were raised to $20, there wouldn't be a job left in the US to go to.

Oct. 15 2013 10:46 AM

Imagine if we raised minimum wage so high (maybe $20/hour) what savings we'd enjoy? We'd no longer have to subsidize so many lives in so many ways. No food stamps, no subsidized housing, on and on. And what pride we'd all have that we could take care of ourselves and not depend on government and charity. What a world!

Oct. 15 2013 10:44 AM
Edward from Washington Heights AKA pretentious Hudson Heights

Can anyone explain why the computers at the Census Bureau

http://www.census.gov/did/www/saipe/data/model/info/snap.html

are not able to return EXISTING webpages that contain information that people are looking for...

but are still able to say :

"Due to the lapse in government funding, census.gov sites, services, and all online survey collection requests will be unavailable until further notice.

Updates regarding government operating status and resumption of normal operations can be found at <usa.gov>.

Websites affected by this shutdown are all census.gov hosted websites, including:

Census.gov
American Factfinder
Public API
FTP Servers
FAQs
Blogs
Online Surveys
Federal Statistical Organization websites: FCSM, FedStats and MapStats
"

The computers ARE up to provide this notice but PREVENTED from returning existing information.

I wish obstructionist Obama and Reid and Pelosi went on notice that they are on furlough too. The country would start to recover.

Oct. 15 2013 10:44 AM

Unfortunately, Leonhardt toes the Pete Peterson / corporate-crat line of the NYT.

He neglects to mention his own & the NYT's acceptance & promotion of the GOP line as the only conversation worth having.

Another guest fails to allow consideration of outside-DC real life arguments.

Oct. 15 2013 10:43 AM
sophia

The Rs are not any more sincerely interested in "the size of govt", than the Rs on the Supreme Court are in state sovereignty or Originalism.

Those phrases are simply covers for shoveling the money to where they want it to go: the wealthy and their corporations.

Oct. 15 2013 10:42 AM
Ben from Westchester

How do we get companies to change? By prohibiting their bad behavior.

There are numerous examples whereby the IRS has allowed companies to move their property overseas (like patents, profits, and other treasure) without adequately compensating the US taxpayers.

You then end up with insane examples -- Apple running ads saying "Designed by Apple in California" -- when Apple has actually moved their patents into a post office box in Ireland, where they design nothing, but which ends up making the money from the royalties on those designs and patents.

The US can stop this leeching of capital if they simply give the IRS more teeth. Many of these transfers of profits to overseas divisions are approved by the IRS. And when the Republicans manufacture fake IRS scandals on behalf of their corporate overlords, these faux scandals should not be covered by the media, or should be covered for what they are -- a robbery of the American people.

Oct. 15 2013 10:42 AM
Dan

If the GOP really were sincere about the size of government.....then why didn't they fight GW Bush when he exploded the size of government with Medicare D and the huge new bureaucracy of Homeland Security Department?

Then again, maybe the GOP just hates Obama.

Oct. 15 2013 10:41 AM
Joe from nearby

Pretty much says it all:

"The GOP’s Backdoor Impeachment Scheme--
Republicans have lost at the ballot box and the Supreme Court, so they’ve decided to nullify President Obama another way: keep his government from working, period."
thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/10/14/the-gop-s-backdoor-impeachment-scheme.html

Oct. 15 2013 10:38 AM
Mr. Bad from NYC

What a dope. The Stimulus plan was a.) too small and b.) a targeted union handout. Public sector unions (whatever the very irresponsible and unforgivable mismanagement of their pension funds)are a huge drag on growth owing to the unending tax obligations levied on state and local taxpayers.

The QE Obama has overseen has done nothing but line the pockets of bankers and increase hot money flows. Both parties have disastrously mismanaged the countries finances and so-called conservatives have come close to outspending old school democrats so there is no one who can possibly claim to be fiscally responsible.

Education is a dead end. Education does not create jobs, education does not increase employ-ability, entrepreneurial projects or level the playing field. It's a historical fact that only the educable (i.e. the middle class) actually benefit by education. The middle class is being destroyed in this country and education will not reboot it absent GENUINE middle class job growth which is tied entirely to misplaced government priorities.

Oct. 15 2013 10:37 AM
Citizen from the US

We can never get fully invested into the jobs crisis or creation, because these fools in congress, keep focusing on The Affordable Health Care Act.

Oct. 15 2013 10:36 AM

Stop sending money to the 1% via "investment" scams in highly touted high tech (e.g., Solyndra Solar Power); it's time to provide sustenance, industry, and wealth to the 99%:

"Cockroach farms multiplying in China" (like cockroaches)

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-c1-china-cockroach-20131015-dto,0,4704825.htmlstory

Oct. 15 2013 10:35 AM
sophia

Leonhardt presumes that our govt. "needs to shrink", because of promises made, implying that the problem is social insurance, rather than that taxes need to be raised, or that the part of govt that needs to shrink is the only part where our spending is out of scale with the rest of the world: the military.

I guess this is what passes for objectivity for a DC reporter.

Oct. 15 2013 10:33 AM

Is it true in red red state Utah the federal government is the largest employer?
Which other states are on large doses of state socialism?

Oct. 15 2013 10:18 AM

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