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The Outer Borough Taxi Explained

Friday, June 14, 2013

We know you're wondering. Kate Hinds, reporter for Transportation Nation, discusses the new outer borough taxi plan and answers the basic questions: how does it work, who can ride, and who can drive? Cabbies, Livery Drivers, Passengers: What do you want to know about the new plan? Call 212-433-9692 or post your comment here.

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Comments [16]

jim from outer boroughs

how about:

grab a greenery
[my pick; from "green" & "livery"]

hop a burro
[pun on "boro", which carries you around + these poor guys seem 2nd class to a yellow cab, like a burro seems 2nd class to a horse]

hail a greenhorn
[lots of connotations, though I'm not sure I like them all]

Sep. 02 2013 05:39 PM

Green cabs will destroy the yellow cab business. There are 13,000 yellow cabs. There will be 18,000 "outer" borough cabs. These green cabs will spend most of their time trying to steal fares in Manhattan, where the work is, offering cheap off the meter rides. There's no way to effectively police it, the city knows this fact. This is about massive greed, .50 for every ride goes to the MTA, and the price of the 18,000 new medallions. Bloomberg did an end run around the local borough councils, who didn't want it, and ran up to Albany for approval from his buddies, who know nothing about the NYC taxi business. I believe one commented about the Bronx finally having adequate service. That's really a joke, they actually think cabs will cruise dangerous poor spread out areas for fares. There is a very good reason yellow cabs don't simply cruise the outer boroughs. You can't make any money doing it, and the daily lease is rather high. Green, on the other hand, will have a virtually nonexistent daily lease, so the cheap rides they will be offering all day every day in Manhattan will be nearly pure profit. It's like installing a slot machine in a gambler's home. This is very serious.

Aug. 07 2013 08:44 PM
Marina Garay from South Amboy New Jersey

I think the green taxis should be called "emerald taxis" and I think they should be allowed to the passengers back to the boroughs. If they are not allowed then it will be inefficient , wasting gas and causing pollution without producing a service....

Jun. 14 2013 09:39 PM
Christine Hutton from Leonia Nj

Pericab
LIMEry Cab
AvoCabo
Kiwikab
Peri-carry
OBiT Outer Borough Transit/Taxi
BS Cab Borough Service Cab
BOLT Borough Outer Limits Taxi

Jun. 14 2013 01:01 PM

The caller "Anderson" is COMPLETELY spot on!!

The City reams these guys EVERY day.

Some time ago, Bloomberg decided that very AGGRESSIVE and erroneous parking and traffic ticketing was going to be a lucrative revenue stream for the city.

Instead of directing traffic, I've witnessed LARGE groups of police hiding in wait to descend on motorists for SLIGHTEST traffic infractions (block the box). This activity PREVENTS traffic from moving and EXACERBATES the problem because the vehicles being ticketed stand in the bow while these "esteemed" cops white citations!! If the goal is to keep traffic moving,, assigning one cop to DIRECT traffic, instead of a group of 5 writing tickets, would keep traffic moving. But, that would not generate $150 a citation - thousands of $$ an hour!! The same thing happens for seat belts, wrong turns etc.

THIS POLICY HAPPENS ALL OVER THE CITY!!

Jun. 14 2013 12:15 PM
Rochelle Yankwitt

Lime-Os!

Jun. 14 2013 12:01 PM
Joseph Bohlin from glen rock

apple cabs!

Jun. 14 2013 11:58 AM
Guy from NYC

Agreed with Elsie--the livery drivers who sit outside my apartment at all hrs senselessly honking their horns will never have my sympathy. Is there anything citizens can do about this, now that the city has given up enforcing the law on honking?

Every time I watch a taxi brazenly break the law and endanger people's lives (for instance driving the wrong way down 8Av !! just being lazy), my sympathy for these people dissipates as well. Why can't these groups of drivers be regulated effectively?

Jun. 14 2013 11:57 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

The first caller pisses me off. Yellow cabs simply DO NOT service the outer-boroughs. Taxi medallions are not designed to help businessmen investors send their kids to college, they are designed to help service the entire city, something most yellow cabs do not do.

Jun. 14 2013 11:57 AM
Joseph from Park Slope, Brooklyn

I just discovered Uber (www.uber.com) a free app that lets you hail a yellow cab or black car. Yellow cab drivers seem to like it because they can get fares on side streets in areas like Dumbo, Brooklyn, without having to cruise around for them. It lets the passenger know how long the wait will be, and even shows you where the car is on a map and gives you the name of your driver. Definitely worth checking out!

Jun. 14 2013 11:57 AM
antonio from baySide

For the transportation nerds.. use the pantone color chip for their names...

And a generic option, 'the green machines'---yawn.

Jun. 14 2013 11:56 AM
jgarbuz from Queens

How about calling them "not to Manhattan" taxis?

Jun. 14 2013 11:55 AM
jonn knoxx from Staten Island

Are there any designated boarding spots, and can you talk about how much it will cost?

Jun. 14 2013 11:54 AM
Jeb from Williamsburg

The taxi drivers want to complain that they won't make money, but everyone knows they systemically turn down outer-borough trips from Manhattan. Ridiculous. The more cars, the better for the consumer -- the constituency for which taxis exist in the first place.

Jun. 14 2013 11:53 AM
Elsie from Brooklyn

If this stops the livery drivers from continuously honking all over Brooklyn to try to get passengers, then I'm all for it.

Jun. 14 2013 11:51 AM
Sheldon from Brooklyn

The explainer answered most of my questions.

The one question I had: I assume, in addition to other boroughs, these "green" taxis can legally take passengers to New Jersey and Westchester?

Also, I understand the rationale but it makes little sense to completely restrict green taxis from picking up a Manhattan fare on their way back to the outer-Boroughs? Why not limit their GPS's to pick up fares from Manhattan, a maximum of 1-3 times a day. Otherwise, I can see green taxis frowning on taking fares TO Manhattan, oh the irony.

Jun. 14 2013 11:07 AM

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